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Pete King bill would ban guns within 1,000 feet of lawmakers
Politico ^ | 1/11/11 | SHIRA TOEPLITZ

Posted on 01/11/2011 10:16:18 AM PST by Redcloak

Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), one of the few pro-gun control Republicans in the House, wants to make it illegal for someone to carry a gun within 1,000 feet of certain high-ranking federal officials, including members of Congress.

“It is imperative that we do all that we can to give law enforcement the tools they need to ensure the safety of New Yorkers and prevent an attack before it happens,” said King, who is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, during a press conference in New York.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: banglist; congress; control; democrats; giffords; gun; gungrabbingrino; king; ny; reichstagfire; rino
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
How do you keep the politicians from moving too close?

You could have two guys carry a 1000' chain attached to two poles. When there's any question about the distance between the politician and the gunman somebody could blow a whistle and say, "Bring out the chains!"

101 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:16 AM PST by Walmartian
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To: DBrow
I’m not sure about the grassy knoll shot, though, wasn’t that over 1000’?

Less than 100'.

102 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:24 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Redcloak

Does anyone truly believe that the commission of one more crime would have deterred this lunatic? When you’ve decided to commit a crime that carries the death penalty, how can the effectiveness of creating another offense even be argued with a straight face?


103 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:45 AM PST by Spok ("What are you going to believe; me or your own eyes?" -Groucho Marx)
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Correction. Less than 300’.


104 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:57 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Redcloak

So ... if I have a concealed carry license, and am legally carrying while driving my car, and a Congressman drives past me in the next lane — I’m a felon? How are legal carriers supposed to keep track of the exact location of legislators so as to know when one is venturing too close?

Come on.

SnakeDoc


105 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:14 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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To: SeeSac

So Kennedy’s life would have been SAVED!


106 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:31 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Redcloak
What is the most dangerous place in this country?

A GUN FREE ZONE...

107 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:54 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obamunism, the fatal cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome.)
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To: Redcloak

In my view it’s because on a majority, Republicans who vote pro-gun are able to be counted on more often than Democrats who vote pro-gun.

Take for instance the USSC justices who were seated in the last 2 years. If we had more Republicans it stands to reason that we might have had more of a voice and possibly a choice in who was selected and seated.

The NRA assisted a good number of, so called, pro-gun Democrats in the last election. They gave their support to these Dems simply because of their gun votes and the fact they were incumbents, but failed to take into consideration how the Dems (pro-gun or not) would help Obama get the USSC justices he wanted without any problems or questions.

Two of the most anti-gun judges to ever sit on the USSC. So how helpful were the pro-gun Dems in helping Obama get two very anti-gun judges seated?

To me that begs the question, why should I pay the NRA to help out pro-gun Dems who will help seat the most anti-gun judges and defeat our cause?

Just imagine that if he had one more judge on the anti-gun side we would have lost the case of Heller vs. DC and the case in Chicago. The USSC would have said that the 2nd Amendment wasn’t intended for individuals and we would be even more in trouble than we are now. Just 1 vote kept those things from working against us. And the NRA helped the anti-gunners by throwing their support behind so called pro-gun Dems.


108 posted on 01/11/2011 10:52:57 AM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wined up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: Walmartian

I think it makes more sense to ban politicians within 1000 feet of a gun.


109 posted on 01/11/2011 10:55:15 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: napscoordinator

Yep. This would be in direct violation of the 2nd. Amendment... like at the other nanny state gun laws.


110 posted on 01/11/2011 10:56:37 AM PST by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Redcloak

so if a “do you know who i am” politician steps into a restaurant or store, all law abiding citizens must leave?


111 posted on 01/11/2011 11:00:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Redcloak

Wouldn’t it be a better deterrent to let it be known that all Congressmen and women will be trained in the use of personal weapons, will have a CCW permit issued to them, and may or may not be carrying a handgun for personal protection?


112 posted on 01/11/2011 11:00:44 AM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: Redcloak

Get over yourself, King. I don’t know of anyone that has the protection the President or those around him have. As for Congress, most of the population don’t recognize most of the names in Congress; much less the people.

In other words; leave it alone.


113 posted on 01/11/2011 11:02:39 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Redcloak

114 posted on 01/11/2011 11:04:26 AM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: wideawake
Gladhanding Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness was his favorite pastime.

Along with kissing Bildo Klintoon's tuckus at every opportunity including voting against Impeachment.

115 posted on 01/11/2011 11:05:12 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
1,000 foot zones will overlap

Yes, this is how they zone out certain businesses in NYC....1000 feet away from any school, bar, church/synagogue, hospital covers damn near all of the city....

116 posted on 01/11/2011 11:11:41 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Redcloak

117 posted on 01/11/2011 11:13:31 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Redcloak

As soon as those same high ranking officials are required to have a 1000 ft perimeter of signs announcing that they are present.


118 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:20 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Would this be the death knell for all the gangs in DC?

How could anyone know where all lawmakers are all of the time?

Dick Cheney could not go hunting with his friends!!!!!

John Kerry could not pretend to be a hunter!!!!


119 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:24 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Redcloak

I never said they should.


120 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:47 AM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: cumbo78

you’re making sense.


121 posted on 01/11/2011 11:18:14 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: bolobaby
We all ought to e-mail your line...."I’d like a bill that bans people who intend on killing me from coming within 1000 feet of me."...to Congresscritter King.

Doubt he will see the relationship though.....

Don't know how a guy that actually seems to get it..on many fronts..can't get this.

FRegards,

122 posted on 01/11/2011 11:18:51 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: longtermmemmory
so if a “do you know who i am” politician steps into a restaurant or store, all law abiding citizens must leave?

Good question.

123 posted on 01/11/2011 11:18:57 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: Redcloak

I guess some are just more equal than others.


124 posted on 01/11/2011 11:20:38 AM PST by Reagan69 (Let me know when those health insurance premiums go down.)
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To: newheart

Excellent comment!


125 posted on 01/11/2011 11:20:46 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Cboldt

Still can possess in school zone if :

An individual who has been issued a right-to-carry license by the state, or a political subdivision of the state, in which the “school zone” is located may continue to carry in a “school zone” in compliance with existing state and local laws. Non-licensed individuals who drive through a “school zone” must have their firearms unloaded and locked in a container or firearms rack.


126 posted on 01/11/2011 11:21:59 AM PST by Renegade
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To: OKSooner

Oh, but I have seen that argument presented here. I remember several threads where GOP loyalists complained that the NRA was endorsing a pro-gun Democrat over their candidate. They never could explain why the NRA should sell out gun owners over non-RKBA causes.


127 posted on 01/11/2011 11:22:24 AM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: cumbo78

From what I read in another article, the reason the Army denied him enlistment was because he used marijuana too many times.


128 posted on 01/11/2011 11:22:42 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: crosshairs

Connecting at 1,000 feet, 333 yards does not require snipers or even a high grade rifle.


129 posted on 01/11/2011 11:23:24 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Redcloak

What happens if they visit a military base??


130 posted on 01/11/2011 11:24:36 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: B4Ranch
"When the government fears the people there is liberty"

Thomas Jefferson

131 posted on 01/11/2011 11:28:53 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Redcloak
Dear Re. King,

I'd like to propose a bill banning congresscritters within 10,000 ft. of any reporter, news camera or microphone.

Respectfully,

An American Citizen

132 posted on 01/11/2011 11:29:38 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: KosmicKitty
What happens if they visit a military base??

Issue Nerf guns?

133 posted on 01/11/2011 11:33:32 AM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Zarro
If you want your gun don’t go to the event!

And that's the kind of thinking that gets filed with the "if you don't like having naked pics taken of your children, then don't fly". Just keep bleating while they continue to chip away at rights that used be protected by our Constitution.

I have to disagree with that analogy.

While I think every law abiding citizen should be carrying if they so choose.There are places that even with a CHL you cannot carry. Would you really want to be sitting in a soccer stadium with half the people packing.Certain places are breeding grounds for trouble, such as a court house. Things happen in a courthouse for example, that could tend to make an otherwise normal person flip out. I don't think you would want a father or mother sitting in the courtroom when a not guilty verdict came in on the scumbag that murdered their child.

There have to be some limits, there are places that law enforcement officers cannot carry.

With that said, if you goofey azz politicians don't want anyone around you with firearms, I have no problem with that either. But the burden is on you to stay away from any place where the carrying of weapons is legal, and there will be no adding to the list of restricted places. If it was legal before last Saturday, then it is too late to change it.

I would rather they stay 1000ft away from me anyways, I'd need a flea dip if they got any closer.

134 posted on 01/11/2011 11:52:18 AM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Redcloak
How the F**k will I know where congresscritters will be at all times?

Hi Tim? Can you give me your schedule so I know where not to carry? I should ask for the Dingell and Rogers schedules too since their districts are less than five miles from me.

135 posted on 01/11/2011 11:56:35 AM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Good question. So if you are sitting someplace minding your own business and you have a weapon and some lawmaker wanders within the 1000 foot circle you should have drawn as a warning, you are the one in violation? Okay, that’s just stupid. But judging from many in office, I guess I understand where these idiots come from. I guess? Or not. Now I’m confusing myself.


136 posted on 01/11/2011 11:59:44 AM PST by rktman
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To: Redcloak

One thousand feet. So, someone driving down the street, two blocks over, with no idea in the world that some tin-horn, two-bit congresscritter is in the vicinity would be GUILTY of a federal crime.

I thought I like Peter King, but I guess not. Looser.


137 posted on 01/11/2011 12:01:28 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: N3WBI3
Second Amendment arguments aside, there's a major problem.

I do work in Brighton. It's the hometown of Mike Rogers, a congressman. If I'm going into town, there's a possibility I'll run into Rogers without knowing he'll be there. I'll be breaking the law and not know it. Felony.

If I get a felony, I lose my job and license.

138 posted on 01/11/2011 12:02:45 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Redcloak
"Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), one of the few pro-gun control Republicans in the House, wants to make it illegal for someone to carry a gun within 1,000 feet of certain high-ranking federal officials, including members of Congress."

Wow! It's so simple when you put it that way. Why didn't anyone think of it before?

139 posted on 01/11/2011 12:04:01 PM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Redcloak

I can just see the enforcement...

“Lawmaker in the open and moving ... search the peasantry.”


140 posted on 01/11/2011 12:06:00 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("I'd rather lose fighting for the right cause than win fighting for the wrong cause." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Redcloak
How many US congressman have been shot since the republic was formed? Not many?? That would be my guess.

How many teenage black males living in government subsidized housing have been shot in the same time frame?

Somehow, I think it would be more appropriate to limit gun possession within 1,000 feet of the young black male! Oh, wait a minute, that would mean stopping and searching everyone in the inner city - RACIST.

Why does Rep King think he is so much more important than the black kid who is under the direct influence and protection of the federal government?

141 posted on 01/11/2011 12:09:57 PM PST by BillM
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To: crosshairs
One word: snipers

Good point. Let's make it 5000 feet.

142 posted on 01/11/2011 12:10:36 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Darren McCarty

I suppose that leaves only one logical alternative: Ban all citizens from coming within 1000’ of a lawmaker. (That was probably King’s first idea, but it would be a tough sell.)


143 posted on 01/11/2011 12:18:28 PM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Kind of like the alternative methods they use to criminalize smoking. (but, oh, we’ll make an exception for that one.)


144 posted on 01/11/2011 12:19:11 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Darren McCarty

“If I get a felony, I lose my job and license.”

****************************

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers.”

Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3


145 posted on 01/11/2011 12:21:22 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: DBrow
plus a runner to go ahead of them to warn us that one is coming.

MAKE WAY! MAKE WAY! MAKE WAY FOR THE ONE WHO COMES! ON THY KNEES SERFS! LOOK NOT UPON THY MASTERS UPON PAIN OF DEATH! MAKE WAY FOR HE WHO COMES!

146 posted on 01/11/2011 12:24:06 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: CSM

I have that book. And if I’m dinged with a felony where I lose my life, job, and family, I’m not going Galt. I’m going Henry Bowman.


147 posted on 01/11/2011 12:24:17 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Jewbacca
Soooooo... Let me see if I got this right.

A person will not carry a firearm within 1000ft of a member of Congress because he's afraid of the jail time, but he has no fear at all of the death penalty for killing that same member of Congress.

Hmmmm...makes sense to me /sarc

And Congress is supposed to be populated by our best and brightest?
148 posted on 01/11/2011 12:25:56 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: Redcloak

They are all pussies.


149 posted on 01/11/2011 12:26:37 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Darren McCarty

If you’re planning on “going Bowman”,
make sure you get the identity of the offending officials before you drop out.
Harder to do AFTER.


150 posted on 01/11/2011 12:28:01 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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