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"Just Kill Him" Controversial Video of Police Shooting Family Dog
KTLA ^ | January 4, 2011 | Fox News Online

Posted on 01/12/2011 10:09:52 AM PST by Immerito

DES MOINES, WA -- In November police officers tased, then shot and killed a 120-pound Newfoundland named Rosie.

The shooting sparked both a community vigil for the dog and an independent review of the officers' actions.

Although initiall reports were that the dog was acting aggressively when she escaped from her fenced yard and was spotted roaming neighborhood streets, video taken from the patrol car dash-cams may cast the shooting in a different light.

Warning: Videos contain graphic sounds and language.

The videos, released by Des Moines Police show the dog being tazed by an officer, then running away. In another video you hear an officer fire his gun, presumably hitting the dog, then another officer saying "Nice".

(Excerpt) Read more at ktla.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; desmoines; donutwatch; filthypig; newfoundland; rosie; wa; warondogs; washington
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1 posted on 01/12/2011 10:09:57 AM PST by Immerito
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To: Immerito

Geez - it’s hard to understand why ANYONE could hate cops!


2 posted on 01/12/2011 10:14:31 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

Between Dupnik and this the law enforcement community seems to be living up to my expectations pinion of it these past few days.


3 posted on 01/12/2011 10:18:02 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Immerito

Rosie was black.

Therefore the cops are racist too.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 10:19:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Immerito

F’ing bastards.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 10:21:35 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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6 posted on 01/12/2011 10:24:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Immerito
Rosie the executed...



Not all cops SUCK....but many do.
7 posted on 01/12/2011 10:26:12 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Immerito
Let's see halfa** pet owner fails to keep large dog on property and its the cops fault, guess if someone had run over it it would have been the drivers fault. Take a little personal responsibility pet owners.
8 posted on 01/12/2011 10:27:21 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

But does a dog simply running loose deserve to be killed?


9 posted on 01/12/2011 10:29:00 AM PST by artificial intelligence (Your data will be processed by me for future input. Thank you.)
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To: Immerito

Just awful... to say the least....:(


10 posted on 01/12/2011 10:32:52 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: Immerito
...reviewing their procedures so an incident like Rosie’s death does not happen again.

That's as much as admitting the shooting was unnecessary.

11 posted on 01/12/2011 10:33:40 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: artificial intelligence

If it is allowed to do so. Keep your pets on your property. End of problem. And spay and neuter them. Tax payers are tired of cleaning up for pet owners. We are forced to kill hundreds of thousands of animals each year because of pet owners.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 10:37:21 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Immerito

BTW. When did they move Des Moines to Washington? Anyone know?


13 posted on 01/12/2011 10:37:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Immerito

In another video you hear an officer fire his gun, presumably hitting the dog, then another officer saying “Nice”.


Which provides proof (as if any were really needed) that killing dogs has become part of the cop “culture” these days.

It doesn’t matter what line of work you happen to be in - when coworker B sees coworker A perform some job related function and immediately says “nice” - that can only mean that said action was part of the “corporate culture”.

If I helped a customer or straightened out a messed up situation at my job, one of my coworkers might say “nice”.
If I acted way out of line with company policy - not so much.

This is something that anybody who has been in the workforce can relate to, no matter in what job capacity.

Show me where I’m wrong in my reasoning here.


14 posted on 01/12/2011 10:38:06 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: org.whodat
From a related article:Rosie got out of her yard last Sunday and started roaming the streets. Officers chased, tazered and tried to grab Rosie. But couldn't catch her.

Rosie made it to a neighbors yard and hid in the bushes.

When police arrive they say she showed her fangs and growled at them. That's when they shot and killed her.



So the dog somehow got loose...it happens occasionally...the dog runs away from the cops...hides in a neighbors yard, and when cornered by the cops growls and bares fangs (note--did not attack the cops...and we only have their words that the dog displayed aggression)....

Ok...I agree...the cops had to kill the dog to save it.

BTW....where was animal control, and why didn't the cops wait????
15 posted on 01/12/2011 10:38:12 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Immerito

I don’t even need to see the video! I have owned Newfies, they are huge and hairy and drool, they are the LEAST aggressive of ALL breeds!


16 posted on 01/12/2011 10:39:51 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Immerito
Viscious Dog police Report

17 posted on 01/12/2011 10:40:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: rottndog

The standard line from the pet owner is it got out, bet on the fact it got out everyday and that is why the cops was called.


18 posted on 01/12/2011 10:41:04 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Noone is “forced” to kill dogs. People make choices. They are not merely the victims of circumstance (despite what liberals would have you believe).

The cops could have waited for animal control to pick up the dog. This dog was running away, trying to avoid these cops. There was no reason to put down the dog.


19 posted on 01/12/2011 10:45:18 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: org.whodat

Anyone, and I do mean anyone, who harms one of my family’s pets is a dead person walking. The only question is when, where, and how.


20 posted on 01/12/2011 10:45:18 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: org.whodat

and thats a reason to taze then shoot it? it was growling at the very people that just attacked it. The dog was cornered and doing nothing more than tryin to protect itself. Gimme a break!


21 posted on 01/12/2011 10:45:33 AM PST by eak3
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To: org.whodat

Your “fact” is an assumption. Most dogs do not get out everyday. The cops were called because someone saw a loose dog and didn’t have the sense to call animal control.


22 posted on 01/12/2011 10:46:31 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

Bastards!

I’ll tell ya... The 98% of cops that are bad, give the 2% that are good a bad name....


23 posted on 01/12/2011 10:47:27 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: org.whodat

No one has made that argument. However, the cops ARE responsible for declaring “Just kill him”, and shooting a dog unnecessarily.

Bad cops need to go; they give the Good Cops a bad name, and make it harder for them to do their jobs.

Don’t defend bad cops.


24 posted on 01/12/2011 10:48:24 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Responsibility2nd; sionnsar

Founded in 1887 by former residents of Des Moines, IA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Moines,_Washington

I used to live near there (later my property was annexed into the city), quite a beautiful city. Just south of Sea-tac airport.

Gary Ridgeway (the Green River killer) lived there for much of the time he was committing his crimes.

WA Ping


25 posted on 01/12/2011 10:48:24 AM PST by RainMan
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

You are right. It is disgusting and sad.


26 posted on 01/12/2011 10:48:38 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In answer to my own dumb-a$$ question....

1889.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Moines,_Washington


27 posted on 01/12/2011 10:52:14 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Immerito

I can’t bring myself to watch the video, but I really doubt that a newfoundland would be anywhere near that aggressive to justify execution


28 posted on 01/12/2011 10:54:27 AM PST by alexbg
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To: Responsibility2nd; RainMan

Thanks for the info in post 25.

I should know better than to go assuming some moron reporter used WA incorrectly, instead of WI.

WA it is.


29 posted on 01/12/2011 10:54:56 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; All; kanawa
OK...this gets worse....

From the police report (the shooting officer):
....I was given the OK and shot one round from my department issued Colt M-4. The dog immediately fell to the ground without making any noise. I approached the dog and observed it's eyes were rolled back and it had heavy labored breathing. I fired another round from my rifle, this time I fired a round into the dog's center mass, and it began to yelp. I fired another round into the same general location and the dog sat up and began to move around. I fired one last time into the same general portion of the body, and the dog immediately laid down ceasing all movements."

This was a torture-killing....
30 posted on 01/12/2011 10:55:01 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

This was a torture-killing....

____________________________________

Disagree.

A torture killing would have been one or two shots leaving the animal in pain; only to die hours later.

If anything, the officer was merciful in insuring the dog was dead, dead, dead.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 10:57:14 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: All

More here:

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/112735949.html


32 posted on 01/12/2011 10:57:44 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito
We have owned two Newfies, both males. A very big black and a smallish (110 lb) landseer.

It is very hard to envision any breed being as gentle and non-aggressive as them. Really, they are amazingly docile and friendly.

To consider one (especially a female) a threat is simply nonsense.

Killing a pet/dog in the context of a no-knock gestapo raid is bad enough...but this??

It must be recognized that these officers must also pass judgement on humans they encounter in their job.

Would you want an officer with their mindset to quickly judge how you, your family, your neighbors would be treated by them?

33 posted on 01/12/2011 10:58:37 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Immerito

24 minute Police cam video at the link above.


34 posted on 01/12/2011 10:59:02 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: org.whodat

You are making a lot of assumptions with your comments.

IF, and that’s a big IF, what you’re assuming is true, then why did the neighborhood hold a vigil for the dog and its owners?

If the dog were a nuisance as you assume, then the neighbors should be applauding the cops, right?

Criticizing the owners for permitting their dog to roam and be a nuisance, right?

There’s only one problem. The opposite is what’s happening.

There were witnesses stating that the dog was being chased by children in the neighborhood and the dog didn’t display any aggressiveness towards the children.

The only time the dog apparently [cops versions here] did was after it was tased and chased into hiding by the police. There were many witness statements that contradict the police version of events.

Is discharging a firearm in a residential area and subsequently killing a dog really a prudent thing to do when the dog has hidden itself from its attackers?

Really? Was that the only option? I seriously doubt it.


35 posted on 01/12/2011 10:59:02 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: rottndog

Not only was a cop a JERK to the nth degree..
He’s a lousy shot, too.
This just is horrid all the way around.


36 posted on 01/12/2011 11:00:10 AM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A police officer with significant firearms training takes four shots to kill a dog at point blank range???? BS!


37 posted on 01/12/2011 11:00:10 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Center mass shots to a large dog laying on the ground would be gut shots in my book. Not very merciful. The first shot, if it was really, really necessary should have been a head shot.


38 posted on 01/12/2011 11:00:40 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: rottndog
Worthless piece of crap wearing a badge kills non-threat.

What you need to realize is cowards hate dogs.

39 posted on 01/12/2011 11:01:33 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham
What you need to realize is cowards hate dogs.

Yep...I never trust anyone who doesn't like dogs.
40 posted on 01/12/2011 11:03:52 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Elderberry; rottndog

Assuming lousy shooting by the cop notwithstanding...

All I’m saying is at least the cop made dead sure the dog was dead.


41 posted on 01/12/2011 11:05:01 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: SZonian

None of which would have happened if the dog had been in its fenced in yard.


42 posted on 01/12/2011 11:05:19 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Immerito

Osifer Jack Boots needed four shots with a .223 rifle to kill a don lying on the ground?

What can we determine from the above statement of the true fact of the shooting of the dog?

1. Ossifer Jack Boots can’t humanely kill an animal. Even a law enforcement person should be able to manage to shoot a non-moving dog in the brain when shooting under the conditions described in the Des Moines Police report.
2. Ossifer jack Boots should be charged with animal cruelty due to his needing four shots to kill the dog.
3. The entire killing process was a prolonged and unnecessary infliction of pain on an animal that was lying down when it was shot.

I’d like to not hear any more whines from the AR-15 bunch about the effectiveness of the .223 round, the one otherwise known as “the mouse gun round”. If it can’t kill a sleeping dog, what good will it do when used to defend against a drugged and armed attacker?


43 posted on 01/12/2011 11:05:19 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Lurker

So we know you have a lot in common with they guy in Tuscon. Get help!


44 posted on 01/12/2011 11:08:05 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: GladesGuru

We have a police state now. This is just practice.


45 posted on 01/12/2011 11:08:13 AM PST by Cowgirl
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep...in a very cruel and inhumane fashion, the officer ensured the death of the dog.

Good on him....eh?


46 posted on 01/12/2011 11:08:25 AM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Joe 6-pack

First and most importantly, the dog should not have been running loose. That being said...

Why tase a dog? If it’s a threat, shoot it; if it’s not, then leave the damn thing alone.

Why would you shoot an animal lying on the ground (presumably point-blank) with a RIFLE? And yet not shoot it in the head to quickly end it’s life? Why fire four times into it’s belly??

Why?


47 posted on 01/12/2011 11:10:14 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: org.whodat

Before you continue to defend bad cops, you especially need to see the 24 min 18 sec video.

There are plenty of reasonable alternatives to the situation that did not involve FOUR shots to a dog lying down on the ground. Bad aim + Bad shooting + bad cops = Do not defend.


48 posted on 01/12/2011 11:12:14 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: rottndog

That picture ain’t “rosy”.

DId you bother to hear how vicous the dog sounded? 4 cops wasting their time on a vicious dog knowing that no matter what they have to do dog lovers will complain.

PS: I have two dogs. If my dog was going nuts and posing a danger to kids I would want a cop to take him out to.


49 posted on 01/12/2011 11:12:38 AM PST by macquire
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To: org.whodat
So we know ...

You know nothing about me. Nothing at all.

L

50 posted on 01/12/2011 11:13:20 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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