Posted on 01/12/2011 10:09:52 AM PST by Immerito
Thrashing? You wish. LOL.
I stand by what I said, what the law is, and how it is applied. Its the truth of how it works. And you do not like that one bit? I can’t do anything about what you like or do not.And I do not really care a wit about that.As amatter of fact I care less than a wit about that. LOL.
To listen to your earlier statements (on the spot), every warden shoots every dog he sees.
And yet, the warden I spoke to (and highly suggest you call) has NEVER shot a dog. In TEN years.
You have been shown to be a blustery paper tiger, with nothing to back it up other than more bluster.
Did you retire from The Howdy Doody Show, Mr. Bluster?
Got it....you are witless.
And you might just look up the word "whit". On second thought, don't. I'm sure you would come up with something that completely refutes Mr. Webster.
THat exactly what gane wardens here do. They shoot every dog they see tracking widlife. I can;t help it if aq warden never shot one for 10 years Thats no doing of mine. I know game wardens that do their job. You know one that does not? So what.Nothing I can do about that.
And now you resort to name calling, for my tellinig you just how it is here. I retract nothing. You are the one who is all worked up about it. Good luck with that.
I stand by everything I have said beause unlike you, I have seen it with my own eyes, and I approve of the law and the way it is enforced.
You do not like that?Ask me if I care? Buahahahahaha!
LOL. Now you do not like my spelling. Well my ,my, you are hard to please. You will have to pay me to get me to improvemy spelling.LOL.Or prove yourself worthy of the extra effort.
My oldest Lab Shelley as a puppy was occasionally baby-sat by my obedience trainer, who owned a certified water rescue Newfie named Kansas. Kansas was the 'protector' of all the little puppies. Shelley quickly discovered that she could tease all the older dogs, and then run to Kansas and hide under her belly hair, where nobody would bother her.
I've never met a Newfie that would 'bite a biscuit' as they say. Just big lovable goofs and absolute sweethearts. Any cop who would taze one and then shoot it in the gut a couple times with a rifle is a total idiot. Then he gets a "nice job" from his partner.
These are bad cops, no way around it. I hope they and their department get sued til their eyeballs rattle. And get shunned by the entire township. It's the only way to get their attention.
Now you say I found the only warden in Vermont who does not do his job?
You are reminding me of Monty Python's Black Knight....."It's only a flesh wound".
Sorry....Game, Set, Match.
The only loser on here is you, pal. And YOU are the one loving a police state, so that makes YOU the liberal. And if you don’t want people minding your business, then don’t post on an open forum, genius. And I meant what I said about hoping you don’t have kids or pets, because anyone who gets off on peoples pets being killed is sadistic. And that’s not name calling, that’s TRUTH!
I doubt you spoke to anyone.And if you did, you made sure to get the answer you wanted through misrepresentation of fact.Game wardens in Vermont have to kill dogs on a frequent basis, it is part of their job if they are field officers. Not killing a dog in ten years?He must have had others do it then, or you are lying.
You seem awfully pushy and anxious too , to say you are victorious when you do not even live here. Its quite a laugh. Are you under 5 feet and drive a Harley too? LOL.
I stand 100% behind what I said on this thread,and I know it from experience. You can call Saint Michael if you want as well as every game warden in the state ,and it won’t change my experience,or the way the I have seen the cited law applied here, whether you like it or not.LOL.
I happen to like it. Thats what gives you the problem, does it not? Well, do not bring your dog to Vermont if you have to have him running loose, or better still, never move here. You won’t like it.And you would be doing all Vermonters a favor too, no doubt.
Yes, game wardens have to shoot dogs as a matter of course here in Vermont, as you will read below.And I hope they all continue to do the good job they have been doing in making owners control their dogs.
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Deer Stories is a documentary series from Vermont Folklife Center Media that explores hunting from an insider’s point of view and is drawn from interviews with hunters from around Vermont. In this program retired Game Warden Stan Holmquist reflects on dogs as predators of deer.
Stanley Holmquist
People that have dogs, I’ve talked to a lot of ‘em that really hated me because I ended up shooting their dogs. There’s a thrill in the chase. You know, they were chasing for miles and a deer is a sprinter, where a dog covers a lot of land at a nice steady pace, but the deer will run as hard as he can for a short period, probably a quarter-mile and, you know, that’s in good, on good ground. If there’s snow involved he’ll get exhausted much faster. And a deer, being a wild animal, they’ll run until the blood vessels in their lung will just explode and you’ll find the deer with white—pink foam coming out of their mouth and you can’t save it. I had a lady, she had two of the most beautiful Goldens you ever saw and I told her: Don’t let ‘em loose because, you know, they’re gonna chase deer. And I caught her dogs with a deer in a brook. Brought the dogs home and I gave her a dog letter. Within three days, I think it was, they were out chasing again, so I gave her a citation to appear in court, but the dogs started running free again, so I says that’s it. And I shot two of the nicest Goldens you ever saw. And I took the dogs back home and I said, you know, I told her, “You’re responsible for this. Don’t blame me. You are responsible. You had all, had the warning.” And I tried to get her to go up and go look at the—you know, where the dog had killed the deer ‘cause, you know, they had it in a small park and there were pieces of deer hair and everything all over, blood everywhere. She wouldn’t go. She wouldn’t go. She didn’t want to see it. She had no idea there were even any deer around and she was living right in amongst them, you know. A lot of people, like city folks, they come up out of New York City or Newark, New Jersey, or places like that and they buy a second home here and, you know, they love to see the deer and they love to see the trees and all that stuff, but they just don’t—it’s more like Born Free, you know. But the deer, you know, they don’t have anybody to fend for ‘em, other than us, the Game Wardens. I went from being a hunter of deer to a protector. You know, I wouldn’t go out and shoot a deer for no money in the world. No, I wouldn’t even go out and shoot an injured one. I call the Game Warden, you know, and let him do it. I’ve had enough of that. So. I still respect, you know, that that deer is suffering and I can feel for it. And I feel for all of ‘em. On the cold days, you know, 10-below or stuff like that, I know just what they’re going through, you know? How they get down in the snow in the winter to keep warm. Oh, boy. That’s from being in the deer yards, finding their beds. And going from just being a hunter to a lover of deer, I guess is what you’d call it. It’s quite a switch. But I guess I fulfill my hunting ambition by hunting hunters. [LAUGHS.] And now, now I can look back on it all: I wouldn’t change a thing. I loved it all. So not many people can say that.
http://vermontfolklifecenter.org/multimedia/radio/deer-stories/prog11/
Really? I gave you his name and number....in case you missed it, here it is again...
Dennis Amsden, Danville, VT (your county) 802-751-7695
I URGE you to call him, and tell him he is not doing his job.
Better yet, give me your name and number via FReepmail, and I assure you he will be anxious to call you. PLEASE, let's do it this way, it would warm the cockles of my heart to have you tell him he is a lying slacker.
As to your "Deer Stories"..I have no reason to doubt the tale. Mr. Amsden, if you recall from my earlier post, did say dogs were a problem 20 years ago, not so lately. Mr. Holmquist is retired, quite elderly to judge from his picture, and the story gives no date. So I simply can't argue that it's not gospel, but I can argue that it's surely not the case today.
I grew up in MI, have hunted deer for 50 years, and am familiar with deer-running dogs. They really aren't much of a threat to deer except in hard winters, when yarding up...this was also Mr. Amsden's opinion.
Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let's get you and he together....I'd pay 5 bucks to listen in.
Yes, dogs were a problem 20 years ago. They still are.
And why not call him or a few more times? Run up your phone bill.
Game wardens have to shoot dogs. Its part of their job. He hadn't shot one in 10 years?
Yeah right.
In the light of the retired game wardens story, may I suggest that you might be just a bit skewed old boy?LOL.
And I know for a fact that dogs run deer here consistently if they are loose, whether they do in Michigan or not.And I know it is the game wardens job to catch them and shoot them if necessary.I have seen several of the dogs they have had to shoot when they stopped by and asked me who might own them.They do a good job.Its a matter of course for the job, like changing a flat tire. No warden could go without doing it over 10 years unless they had someone else handling it.
Maybe you had better watch the video Escanaba in da Moonlight and reacquaint yourself with the UFO theory of game warden work. It was filmed on the Upper peninsula of the state you purport to have hunted in.
I stand by what I say. Good luck to you and your 'whatever it is' that is causing your problem.
I feel embarrassed for you. You really should just slink away.
Really? They see beagles running a rabbit and they just jump out the truck blasting?
And what, precisely, about the picture of the hanging coyote is supposed to bolster your arguments?
Look, bud. Responsible pet owners do, but dogs sometimes get loose.
These cops should be fired and sued into abject poverty and homelessness for what they did. What’s truly disgusting is you “Cops-can-do-no-wrong” JBT boot lickers that always show up in these threads to justify what some imbecile with a badge has done when he screwed the poochm (pun intended).
BTW, Mr Whodat....the Aints suck. There’s only one good team in America who wears Black and Gold.
You know, you come across as a dog-hater.
Just like the ROP.
What Lurker said!
Anyone, cops included, who shoots my dog
had better be paid up on his life insurance.
Muslims hate dogs and consider them “haram”.
Go figure.....
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