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Live Coverage: Memorial Service for Victims of Arizona Shooting Rampage to Begin at 8 p.m. ET
FoxNews ^ | January 12, 2011 | FoxNews

Posted on 01/12/2011 4:54:38 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

LIVE at 8 PM EST

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 0pansy; applause; arizona; cheeringstudents; circuscircus; funerally; funerally2; giffords; memorialrally; obamafest; popcorn; reichstagfire; souvenirs; thrive; togetherwethrive; tshirts; tucsonmemorial; wellstonememorial
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To: PghBaldy

Someone posted here yesterday wondering if BJ was going to teach Hussein the lip-biting trick....


351 posted on 01/13/2011 7:05:07 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Nut Flush; Tennessee Nana
To people who joined back in 1998, you’re a n00b. Point?

The point is:

First, you posted "it was a nice service" ... which is prima facie evidence that you're a person who doesn't pay attention.

Then, you tried to cover your ass with Once Barry started speaking I thought it got too political and turned it off ... which pegged most people's bullsh!t meter immediately.

Nut, if this is the best you've got, I'd like to suggest that you ditch your password again and wait another 2 years before you come back.

352 posted on 01/13/2011 7:05:39 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: redk
Glenn Beck is doing the same thing..

...however, he did preface it by saying 'a true leader would have done said those 'healing' words last Saturday'..

..(instead of waiting for the television coverage on Wednesday)

353 posted on 01/13/2011 7:05:52 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I was on freerepublic2.


354 posted on 01/13/2011 7:06:27 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Guenevere

You must realize that these gents,sad to say, opted for the “easy way out”!!! All of Fox News Network personnel did basically the same thing!!! These FNC people are cut from the same cloth as the hapless Jewish folks in Hitler’s Germany that believed that once Hitler took their wealth and property, he would leave Jews alone. Wrong!!! These FNC people, as is POTUS Obama, his socialist, Democrat Party and the Obama spin media, are not fooling the vast majority of the American people. Anyone with objectivity and moral common sense that watched this farce last night had to be stunned and ashamed of the party/pep/rally atomsphere of the “Obama Youth”. Shucks, all we needed was the lock-stepping and brown shirts!!! A shame, for the victims of this horrible American Tragedy, a shame for the state of Arizona and...worst of all, a shame for our great compassionate country!!!


355 posted on 01/13/2011 7:07:17 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Tennessee Nana

I missed the Obama Responds to Palin speech.


356 posted on 01/13/2011 7:18:11 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Hideous bits of demonized human garbage.


357 posted on 01/13/2011 7:29:26 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: madison10

Were the t shirts free? Did they have Obama opens ICU patients eyes statues as well?


358 posted on 01/13/2011 7:33:42 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank God a majority of Americans and the Independents will not fall for this. Obama read a bible quote after we all know he mocked the bible before. Anyone want to tell me why the new chief of staff that told them all to read from the bible did not pass out hurl bags in the seats of the gym church?


359 posted on 01/13/2011 7:37:45 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Tennessee Nana
The memorial for the fallen and injured in Arizona was
"Welstoned" by the memorial organizers and participants and
they should be ashamed of themselves! What a disgrace for
the families of those souls to have to witness!
360 posted on 01/13/2011 7:40:39 AM PST by LUV W (Thank God)
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To: Lessthantolerant

The gushing and swooning from the Friends this morning lead by head Barry cheerleader Alisyn was too much to take...finally Michelle Malkin came on saying that it was like a campaign pep rally and then Steve chimed in that in his house they thought so, too.


361 posted on 01/13/2011 7:44:48 AM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Shady; F15Eagle; HollyB; Ezekiel; Saoirise
“Theme for the Common Man” Aaron Copland. Why not the National Anthem? Oh, I forgot, no borders now...We are all under the Regime."

This makes sense in the big picture. Obama turned what should have been a somber memorial service into a one man re-campain act. The choice of music suited his purposes.

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Aaron Copland (November 14, 1900 – December 2, 1990):

In the early 1940s, Copland produced two important works intended as national morale boosters. Fanfare for the Common Man, scored for brass and percussion, was written in 1942 at the request of the conductor Eugene Goossens, conductor of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra. It would later be used to open many Democratic National Conventions,.."

"...Deciding not to follow the example of his father, a solid Democrat, Copland never enrolled as a member of any political party, but he espoused a general progressive view and had strong ties with numerous colleagues and friends in the Popular Front, including Odets.[76] Copland supported the Communist Party USA ticket during the 1936 presidential election, at the height of his involvement with The Group Theater[disambiguation needed], and remained a committed opponent of militarism and the Cold War, which he regarded as having been instigated by the United States. He condemned it as, "almost worse for art than the real thing". Throw the artist "into a mood of suspicion, ill-will, and dread that typifies the cold war attitude and he'll create nothing".[77] In keeping with these attitudes, Copland was a strong supporter of the Presidential candidacy of Henry A. Wallace on the Progressive Party ticket. As a result, he was later investigated by the FBI during the Red scare of the 1950s and found himself blacklisted. Copland was included on an FBI list of 151 artists thought to have Communist associations. Joseph McCarthy and Roy Cohn questioned Copland about his lecturing abroad, neglecting completely Copland's works which made a virtue of American values.[78] Outraged by the accusations, many members of the musical community held up Copland's music as a banner of his patriotism. The investigations ceased in 1955 and were closed in 1975. Though taxing of his time, energy and emotional state, Copland's career and international artistic reputation were not seriously affected by the McCarthy probes.[79] In any case, beginning in 1950, Copland, who had been appalled at Stalin's persecution of Shostakovich and other artists, began resigning from participation in leftist groups. He decried the lack of artistic freedom in the Soviet Union, and in his 1954 Norton lecture he asserted that loss of freedom under Soviet Communism deprived artists of "the immemorial right of the artist to be wrong." He began to vote Democratic, first for Stevenson and then for Kennedy..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Copland

362 posted on 01/13/2011 7:57:09 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Jeff Head

>>This had all the ear marks of not letting a crisis go to waste...in other words...a whole lot of politics going on ...<<

I recognized that within a few moments and switched to Fox Business News. My questions is why did Fox participate in the political fiasco. That’s the crap CNN does.


363 posted on 01/13/2011 8:00:43 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Ping to 362 FRiend.


364 posted on 01/13/2011 8:01:15 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the review. My wife and I refused to watch “Bring a Gun to the Battle” orate last night.

This is another sick example of libs in situations like this. Reminds us of the:

Honor & Civility, RIP | The Weekly Standard
Honor & Civility, RIP A memorial service for Paul Wellstone becomes a DNC pep rally as the Democratic party reaches a new low.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/830clrob.asp


365 posted on 01/13/2011 8:04:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the review. My wife and I refused to watch “Bring a Gun to the Battle” orate last night.

This is another sick example of libs in situations like this. Reminds us of the:

Honor & Civility, RIP | The Weekly Standard
Honor & Civility, RIP A memorial service for Paul Wellstone becomes a DNC pep rally as the Democratic party reaches a new low.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/830clrob.asp


366 posted on 01/13/2011 8:05:40 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Nut Flush
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367 posted on 01/13/2011 8:18:34 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Jeff Head
Well said, Jeff.

>>>>>Obama is trying to use thi event on the national and world scene and use those dead and injured to revive a failed and horrible Presidency and that’s what made me I guess the most upset. And it was so obvious to me.

There are many many folks who agree with you.

The Memorial Service last night for the victims of the Tucson shooting came across as more of a political rally then just an event mourning the dead and the injured from Saturdays horrendous act. The cheers, the screams and the whistles had no place in such a somber event. Yet last night that is exactly what was on display --- juvenile behavior, that was nothing short of embarrassing and even upsetting to watch.

Obama gave another of his patented long winded speeches, in his usual smug and condescending fashion. Liberals may have loved it and I'm sure he will get a bounce with some Independent voters. However, I seriously doubt it will resurrect his failed Presidency in the long term.

368 posted on 01/13/2011 8:27:06 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
"...The Memorial Service last night for the victims of the Tucson shooting came across as more of a political rally then just an event mourning the dead and the injured from Saturdays horrendous act. The cheers, the screams and the whistles had no place in such a somber event. Yet last night that is exactly what was on display --- juvenile behavior, that was nothing short of embarrassing and even upsetting to watch..."

It rubbed salt in the wounds of those who need healing. There was a clear non-Biblical spiritual void invited and present last night. It was all man-centered and humanistic lacking any reverence for the value of life or the true Creator of all living things. It was a pep rally. Not what the city of Tucson needed to heal from the actions of a madman.

Proverbs 25:20:

"Like one who takes away a garment in cold weather, And like vinegar on soda, Is one who sings songs to a heavy heart."

369 posted on 01/13/2011 8:42:50 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am a bit confused. I didn’t watch the ‘memorial rally’ last night but got my info from this thread beginning at about 30 minutes from the beginning. Based on many (most) of the posts, I got the impression that there were people in the group holding signs leading for applause, cheers and other inappropriate behavior. Now listening to commentary this morning I get a completely different impression.


370 posted on 01/13/2011 9:26:19 AM PST by chooseascreennamepat
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To: Reagan Man
"The cheers, the screams and the whistles had no place in such a somber event."

I think the aid to Gabby would agree with you. Did you notice how he sat there somberly with a glare looking straight at Obama. Also I noticed that family members were not clapping and cheering?

371 posted on 01/13/2011 10:01:54 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Guenevere

Sickening...

When he started his “speech” hed had his head to the side as usual and could have been talking about a stimulus bill...

Point: that head to the side might well be a sign of his boredom, distain and lying..

How often does he keep his head straight up and down ???


372 posted on 01/13/2011 10:19:45 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: NCBraveheart

I think we only know about Gabby, the 6 who died and the husband of one of the women who died...


373 posted on 01/13/2011 10:26:06 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: treetopsandroofs

BJ tried to teach Barry the quick tears thingy...


374 posted on 01/13/2011 10:27:35 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Guenevere

Do you remember back to Sept 2001 and the Cole etc ???

President Bush and Laura met with the families IN PRIVATE to cry with them and try to console them...

They were class all the way down the line...


375 posted on 01/13/2011 10:32:06 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: B4Ranch; All

Here is an AOL take on the event. The link already has more than 2,000 comments and climbing.

http://www.aolnews.com/discuss/2011/01/13/opinion-tucson-memorial-service-the-worst-of-america-the-be#gcpDiscussPageUrlAnchor=&gcpCommentsWidget%5Bp%5D=11&gcpCommentsWidget%5Bs%5D=new


376 posted on 01/13/2011 10:33:00 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: 444Flyer

That stupid drumming drove me nuts...

It was too upbeat...rock concert...


377 posted on 01/13/2011 10:34:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Spunky

Has anyone asked the families what they thought about the show ???

Other than that Mrs Lincoln how did you like the play ???


378 posted on 01/13/2011 10:36:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: treetopsandroofs

Rush just mentioned the Clinton crying bit...

It was the Ron Brown funeral...


379 posted on 01/13/2011 10:40:38 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: chooseascreennamepat

They cheered and clapped and yelled all the way through...

Rush has examples from other rallies on now...

That is what it sounded likme last night...


380 posted on 01/13/2011 10:43:02 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ninergold3

Same here, my Maya is 10 and very savvy about politics for her age—she was the one who really wanted to meet Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee (”I know he’s a RINO mom, but let’s give him a chance” ;-) on their booksigning tours in ‘09...I can’t even begin to imagine letting my child go with a neighbor to a ‘harmless’ political event and getting a call that she’s been senselessly murdered!! My heart goes out to her parents and family and friends. :*(


381 posted on 01/13/2011 11:25:08 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Candor7; All

What DID happen at U of A....

1) tee shirts were passed out like at a rock concert.

2) A large beach ball was batted around, like at a football game.

Wonder if anyone remembered it was all about innocent murder victims?.......No.


382 posted on 01/13/2011 11:41:10 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Mmogamer

Disgusted is the right word. I wasn’t sure IF I was watching a memorial service at all.


386 posted on 01/13/2011 3:13:43 PM PST by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: Jeff Head

I don’t think you are off base here, JH...this was appalling. I couldn’t not believe the cheering, whistling and raucous applause.

I found the entire atmosphere to be repugnant and offensive. If that had been a “memorial service” for one of MY family members, I would have made my feelings known.

Simply appalling, I still can’t believe that was a “memorial service”. And your point about our casualties in Afghanistan is spot on. They apparently cannot be used to political advantage since it is now “Obama’s War”.


387 posted on 01/13/2011 6:48:04 PM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The whole memorial became a part of the continuing Obama campaign. Jan Brewer must have almost puked to have to be a part of it.

Now the idea is that those people were maimed, murdered and sacrificed not for their own values of democracy and meeting with Senator Giffords,now after the Memorial Service , they did so did so for what purpose?

WHy for the re-election of Obama in 2012, of course.Thats why they sacrificed themselves ( Sarc.)

Obama just dropped by to say thanks.Its ALL about Obama.

But how many get it?


388 posted on 01/14/2011 2:41:58 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Jeff Head; Jim Robinson; betty boop; Travis McGee; Lurker; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch; Noumenon; Czar; ...
Jeff, I completely agree with your assessment. Spot on in every respect.

We even have to blame the likes of FoxNews for the making the most of a crisis atmosphere that has resulted from the tragedy in Tucson. I cannot tell you how many times I heard a Fox reporter or pundit say something like, ‘Do you think he [President Obama] will come out of this service looking better than he did before going in? Will he rise to the occasion?’

Rick will verify that I shouted more than once at the television this week, ‘This is not ‘an occasion’! It is a tragedy the aftermath of which should not involve political posturing, let alone speculation regarding the results of the posturing!’

The tragedy has brought out both the best and the worst of America – with ‘the best’ being the responses, both during and after the shootings, of average Americans, and ‘the worst’ being the posturing being done by much of our ‘leadership’ in Washington and most of those whose charge it is to (supposedly) inform us.

One of the most offensive results of this week is the letter, written by Michelle Obama, that now appears on the White House website, in which she advises American parents regarding how they should talk to their children about the tragedy in Tucson. That letter is offensive on so many levels, a few of which are:

(1) Americans do not need advice from their leaders, let alone their leaders’ wives, on how to counsel or advise their children. And anyone who believes we do is an elitist who considers herself better equipped to tell us how to live our lives than we are to live them by performing our own assessments and making our own choices.

(2) Ms. Obama’s letter constantly makes reference to the fact that ‘the world we live in’ [sic] has much, if not everything, to do with the cause of the tragedy. That attitude reflects the never let a good crisis go to waste philosophy. To the elitists in the White House, we must not blame the tragedy on one unbalanced person, but instead we must seize it as an opportunity to change society so that it conforms to our view of ‘utopia’ (and, in doing so, assert more governmental power over the lives of its citizens).

(3) Ms. Obama advises us to teach our children about the nobility of people who choose a life of ‘public service’. And then she proceeds to describe politicians only who fit in that category. Those putting their lives on the line everyday in Afghanistan and Iraq are simply afterthoughts to this president and his wife. And those who earn (extraordinarily loose interpretation of the term) many times more than the average American, who enjoy perks about which the rest of us can only dream, and who retire with generous pensions, paid for by the American taxpayer, after only a brief career in so-called ‘public service’ are no longer fit to be called ‘public servants’. They are dictators and nest-featherers.

I deeply resent a woman of Michele Obama’s ‘qualifications’ having the audacity to believe that (1) I need her advice about how to react to this tragedy and (2) what is contained in her letter is anything more than elitist drivel.

~ joanie

389 posted on 01/14/2011 12:38:36 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

>>One of the most offensive results of this week is the letter, written by Michelle Obama, that now appears on the White House website, in which she advises American parents regarding how they should talk to their children about the tragedy in Tucson.<<

Was written for people of diminished intelligence.

Check your FReepmail


390 posted on 01/14/2011 12:57:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: antceecee
It appears Nut Flush is no longer here...

Viking kitties took care of him!

391 posted on 01/14/2011 1:57:00 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Regarding guns and all standard-capacity magazines:

He’s coming to take them away, Ha-ha!
He’s coming to take them away!

THAT is what he meant by the wildly-cheered code words in his Tucson speech: “We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.” aka Gun BANS!


392 posted on 01/14/2011 2:17:58 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: joanie-f

Sic’em Jf.

A pathetic example of liberal values, this was
a typical democrat “memorial”, complete with
T-shirts, the only thing missing was a ballon drop.
The constant references to the good “citizenship” of
the various victims was enough to make me sick.
Each and every one was an example of American individualism
even the 9 year old girl, who according to Obama would
have probably grown up to be a respectable
Komsomol member.
It was all government, all the time, which is
the basis of the democrat ideology.

Hope you are well.
Tet.


393 posted on 01/14/2011 3:00:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: joanie-f
Well said, as usual.

And we used to think nobody could possibly be worse than the Clintons...

394 posted on 01/14/2011 5:10:09 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thankful to see that.


395 posted on 01/14/2011 7:50:57 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: 444Flyer

Leave it to him to boost another commie / marxist / socialist.


396 posted on 01/15/2011 12:01:27 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: joanie-f; Noumenon
I deeply resent a woman of Michele Obama’s ‘qualifications’ having the audacity to believe that (1) I need her advice about how to react to this tragedy and (2) what is contained in her letter is anything more than elitist drivel.

Oh joanie, you just have to put people like this into perspective.

From my perspective, they are simply honking donkeys who love the sound of their own bray.

Which would be laughable, except that folks honking this particular bray propose that all alternative brays are to be forbidden.

Which makes them double-idiots.

Or so it seems to me. For what these strange folk propose is that Americans can be "trained out of" being American. And somehow, I think The Other Side has not well considered the sheer enormity of this problem, which faces them directly, of course. For it was they who proposed that America could be progressively improved by destroying the historical and cultural foundations on which she abides and rests.

Which is to say by destroying the historical faith and foundational principles of the American people, which have sustained our Nation through thick and thin for over 230 years now....

In the end, dear sister in Christ, what this all amounts to, in my mind, is: "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Somehow, I just don't see Americans buying it.

As for Michelle, Ma Belle: Michelle just can't help but be herself: a child of privilege with a very high opinion of herself.

Thank you so much for writing, joanie! It's great to see you!

397 posted on 01/16/2011 1:41:58 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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