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Palin and the Blood Libel
JWR - Jewish World Review ^ | Jan 13, 2011 | Jonathan Tobin

Posted on 01/13/2011 7:49:03 AM PST by MsLady

As Sarah Palin has just learned, keeping up with the rules about using phrases that are associated with Jewish history is not as simple as it used to be. I was under the impression that the list of phrases that were considered off limits for general consumption was confined more or less to those associated with the Holocaust. Meaning, for instance, that the use of the word "holocaust" should be confined to discussion of events surrounding the genocide of Jews in Europe between 1933 and 1945. But even that stricture has been hard to enforce. Indeed, when an episode of the TV show The X-Files once referred to the mysterious death of amphibians in a lake as a "frog holocaust," you knew that the word had become more of a metaphor than a specific historical term.

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1 posted on 01/13/2011 7:49:06 AM PST by MsLady
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To: MsLady

They wanted to libel her with blame with the blood of the innocent who were hurt or killed, thus blood libel. May never have been about Jewish anything and maybe they are being a bit too full of themselves in thinking it was about them.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 7:54:28 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MsLady

Origin of HOLOCAUST
Middle English, from Late Latin holocaustum, from Greek holokauston, from neuter of holokaustos burnt whole, from hol- + kaustos burnt, from kaiein to burn — more at caustic
First Known Use: 13th century


3 posted on 01/13/2011 7:56:38 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: MsLady

THE TALE OF “THE WON” AND THE FAIR MAIDEN OF TUCSON

And so it came to be, in the time of the Global Warming, in the era known as the Age of PC Mindlessness, the people of the land called America, having lost their values, their initiative, the desire to be free and their ability to judge, chose as their New Messiah that person known as “The Won”.

And then came to the land, as if in retribution, The Rampage of Loughner the Idiot. When he did use the Firestick of Palin to smite the fair maiden Gabrielle of Tucson. And the people were anguished, becoming dispirited and vexatious. And they knew not if the fair maiden would be taken from them to sit in the land of the Kennedy evermore. And so they did quibble and squabble and argue and point, one at the other, for had they not already shown what fools they were?

So it came to pass that on the fourth day of the Rampage of Loughner the Idiot, that The Won did travel through the ether on the wings of his Princely Carriage to appear from the vapors at the side of the stricken maiden, Gabrielle of Tucson.

And by force of will alone, The Won did bring her comfort and sustenance, causing the Beast to release his grasp and He did free the maiden Gabrielle from her darkness and silence.

And Lo! The Won did cause the the eyes of the maiden Gabrielle to open and gaze in wonder at his countenance. And she knew she would vanquish the wrath of the Firestick of Palin and her life be spared to live evermore as the gift of The Won.

And the people said, “Hallelujah!”

And the people said, “See The Won! Is he not Wonderful? He has restoreth the fair maiden to us and returned to her the purity of her heart, the beauty of her countenance, and the spirit of the democrat. She will forevermore be our light and guidance as together we pursue the Agenda of the Liberal, smite the forces of the Evil Right and ban the Firestick of Palin!”

And they did bask in the warmth of the glow of The Won and were mesmerized by the comforting words he deigned to give them from his TelePrompter.

And The Won himself was again near overcome by his own wonderfulness and beneficence. For was he not The Won?


4 posted on 01/13/2011 7:57:12 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: A CA Guy

bump


5 posted on 01/13/2011 7:57:15 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: A CA Guy

It was in the middle ages used against the Jewish people. And then the muslims revived it. But, they know what Sarah meant these people who are slamming her are using any excuse and this one is just lame.


6 posted on 01/13/2011 7:57:28 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

No group can lay claim to any language or symbol—It’s called Freedom of Speech.

If you don’t like it—Well, that’s too bad.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 7:57:57 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: MsLady
But even that stricture has been hard to enforce. Indeed, when an episode of the TV show The X-Files once referred to the mysterious death of amphibians in a lake as a "frog holocaust," you knew that the word had become more of a metaphor than a specific historical term.

Actually, Jon, the word "holocaust" is an ancient Greek word with a specific meaning long before the Nazis showed up.

Definition of HOLOCAUST

1: a sacrifice consumed by fire

2: a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life especially through fire

3a often capitalized : the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II —usually used with the

b : a mass slaughter of people; especially : genocide

IOW, those who want to limit the term to killing of Jews during WWII are the ones guilty of attempting to appropriate a word, not the other way around.

8 posted on 01/13/2011 7:58:36 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Beelzebubba

Holocaust? Don’t mean the Shoah?


9 posted on 01/13/2011 7:59:24 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Arm_Bears

No group can lay claim to any language or symbol—It’s called Freedom of Speech.


Don’t be niggardly, now!


10 posted on 01/13/2011 8:00:12 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: MsLady
I knew what it meant and the Jewish history in some prior uses of the words, but it really isn't all about the Jews here at all.

They libeled her with the blood of the innocent, hence a blood libel. Simple enough except for those seeking a way to libel her again IMO.

11 posted on 01/13/2011 8:00:41 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Iron Munro

That is awesome. Did you write that?


12 posted on 01/13/2011 8:01:43 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
The liberals cannot be this stupid -- they must be - once again - manufacturing outrage based on a lie.

"Blood libel" has been used to refer to numerous incidents of false accusations of murder and torture used to persecute various groups, including the Cathars and the Knights Templar.

Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia article appears to have been completely revised during the last few days. Look at this Wayback Machine version:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080414025101/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

Then check the current version. All references to "Christians, Cathars, Carthaginians, Knights Templar, witches, Wiccans, Christian heretics, Roma, Druids, neopagans, Native Americans, atheists, communists, and satanists" have been removed.

Once again, Wikipedia proves it can't be trusted for anything but the most non-controversial material.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 8:02:12 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: A CA Guy

Yes you are correct. They will use anything, grasping at straws hysterically trying to damage her cred or worse.


14 posted on 01/13/2011 8:04:14 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Great find I didn’t know that. Wiki needs to go down the same road as the dinosaur media.


15 posted on 01/13/2011 8:06:35 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Iron Munro

It’s a miracle! Thank the Obamessiah! /sarc

My thoughts exactly (well, almost,) when I heard him say we walked in and she opened her eyes- I was thinking, you know what? With all this scripture reading tonite, did ANYONE bother to say THANK YOU GOD?

Me thinkest not.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 8:07:30 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: MsLady

They are trying to create the perception on a national scale that she is hated and unelectable.

Same thing was done to Reagan.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 8:08:09 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MsLady
Mr Tobin is correct, it is getting very hard to keep up with phrases that are not allowed to be used except by chosen groups of people. However he mistakenly limits the off limits phrases to ones associated with Jews. There are many of these that are associated with the African American and Hispanic Communities. Plus a few others. Damn, but it is getting hard to keep up with some of these. But as a good America, I will keep trying.
18 posted on 01/13/2011 8:08:27 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: MsLady

Where are the condemnations against Glenn Reynolds for using that very same phrase JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE PALIN DID?!?!?! I haven’t seen any, have you???


19 posted on 01/13/2011 8:10:30 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: MsLady
Alan Dershowitz's opinion on this seems to be reasonable.

"The term “blood libel” has taken on a broad metaphorical meaning in public discourse. Although its historical origins were in theologically based false accusations against the Jews and the Jewish People,its current usage is far broader. I myself have used it to describe false accusations against the State of Israel by the Goldstone Report. There is nothing improper and certainly nothing anti-Semitic in Sarah Palin using the term to characterize what she reasonably believes are false accusations that her words or images may have caused a mentally disturbed individual to kill and maim. The fact that two of the victims are Jewish is utterly irrelevant to the propriety of using this widely used term."

20 posted on 01/13/2011 8:11:00 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("I'd rather lose fighting for the right cause than win fighting for the wrong cause." - Jim DeMint)
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To: A CA Guy

Tempest in a teapot. Plain is living rent free in their minds, 24/7!


21 posted on 01/13/2011 8:11:47 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Then check the current version. All references to “Christians, Cathars, Carthaginians, Knights Templar, witches, Wiccans, Christian heretics, Roma, Druids, neopagans, Native Americans, atheists, communists, and satanists” have been removed.


The current page says:
Blood libel (also blood accusation[1][2]) refers to a false accusation or claim[3][4][5] that religious minorities, usually Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays.[1][2][6] Historically, these claims have–alongside those of well poisoning and host desecration–been a major theme in European persecution of Jews.[4] Other groups which have suffered blood libels throughout history include:Christians, Cathars, Carthaginians, Knights Templar, witches, Wiccans, Christian heretics, Roma, Neopagans, Native Americans, atheists, communists, and satanists.[7]


22 posted on 01/13/2011 8:11:55 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beelzebubba
Yep, somebody's already changed it back.

I suppose it will ping-pong back and forth until somebody gets tired or actually has to go to work.

23 posted on 01/13/2011 8:13:08 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: pillut48

Nope I sure haven’t.


24 posted on 01/13/2011 8:14:31 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: All

Arch. Plain=PALIN

Durn IPad!


25 posted on 01/13/2011 8:14:37 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: MsLady

Whether or not the liberals like it, “blood libel” now means wrongly accusing someone of having “blood on their hands” or being responsible for a murder. With the accusation typically made to discredit a political adversary.


26 posted on 01/13/2011 8:17:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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LOL, I think I figured out what’s happening! Apparently IPad has some sort of spell checker and it’s replacing the correctly spelled words it doesn’t recognize with the closest “corrected” spelling it can find! Arch is supposed to be a r g h!


27 posted on 01/13/2011 8:17:21 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: MsLady

Yes. You might say I was divinely inspired by THE WON.


28 posted on 01/13/2011 8:18:47 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: A CA Guy
You know I don't remember the vitriol(sorry couldn't resist using that word) being near as bad against Reagan but, it was so long ago. Maybe I don't remember correctly.

Let the liberals keep this up, they sound shrill and desperate. To most fair minded American's(which is the majority) this is going to be huge turn off. The left is going to spontaneously combust any minute now. The sad part is this is really hurting our country.

29 posted on 01/13/2011 8:19:07 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

Interesting how the left can easily blame Palin, Beck or Rush for this crime.

But they hold Bill Ayers to be without blame, and his close friend Obama - well he is just about perfect, let alone blameless.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


30 posted on 01/13/2011 8:20:22 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MsLady

Interesting how the left can easily blame Palin, Beck or Rush for this crime.

But they hold Bill Ayers to be without blame, and his close friend Obama - well he is just about perfect, let alone blameless.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


31 posted on 01/13/2011 8:20:24 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MsLady

Interesting how the left can easily blame Palin, Beck or Rush for this crime.

But they hold Bill Ayers to be without blame, and his close friend Obama - well he is just about perfect, let alone blameless.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


32 posted on 01/13/2011 8:20:24 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MsLady

They are playing this for the voting age children in college and the minorities with conservative views who couldn’t vote for a supposedly bad person.


33 posted on 01/13/2011 8:22:00 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MsLady
Tobin assumes Palin's liberal critics are arguing in good faith & misses the point.

They could care less about the usage of the term 'blood liable' - they were avoiding addressing Palin's point and by changing the subject with this red herring, and ensuring everyone else did, too.

34 posted on 01/13/2011 8:26:13 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MsLady

Here’s another example of her lack of hardcore political experience. She never had to use the phrase that others had been using in her defense since the shooting. Let them take the flack. She should’ve risen above the fray. Instead she incorported a term fraught with meaning, both historical and religious, for Jews, and applied it to herself, a Christian.

That’s a tin ear. That’s lack of judgement. And that’s just another reason why this lady is nowhere near being ready — or capable — of leading this nation.


35 posted on 01/13/2011 8:32:27 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: A CA Guy
Well, kids are pretty sharp, hopefully most of us are not raising a generation of morons. I know when I was younger I probably would have been called a liberal. It didn't take me long to understand how damaging liberalism was.

What's that old saying? If your not a liberal when your young you have no heart, and if you aren't conservative when you get older, you have no brains. I think that's how it goes anyway.

36 posted on 01/13/2011 8:32:43 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: skeeter

Good point.


37 posted on 01/13/2011 8:35:32 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

The only rule is that whatever Sarah Palin does is wrong according to the evil ones.


38 posted on 01/13/2011 8:35:48 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: Arm_Bears

I had this discussion yesterday with my sister who is married to a non-observant Jewish man. She said they were deeply offended by Palin’s use of the term because it was about Jews. Honestly, I didn’t know it was off limits, as I’ve heard it in other contexts, not related to Jews. She said it was like say the “n” word to blacks. I found the article by Alan Dershowitz saying it’s not exclusive. She didn’t care and went on a victim rant.

I know about the history of the word, but have not been able to locate any copyright or trademark on them. It’s just another excuse to attack Sarah Palin. She used the words in EXACTLY the right context.

And, as my husband said, GET OVER IT!


39 posted on 01/13/2011 8:36:39 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: MsLady

In spite of the spelling?:)


40 posted on 01/13/2011 8:37:57 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MsLady

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/maumauing

They would be attacking anything she might have said. It’s what they do.


41 posted on 01/13/2011 8:48:16 AM PST by tumblindice (Any time you feel up to it, come and get them)
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To: beckett

I’m sorry, but your judgment of her is based on a basic misunderstanding of the term “blood libel”, which is NOT specifically reserved to the Jews. Others who used the term suffered no backlash, but she does, and therefore it is her fault?

I’m not sure there is any way for her to win, under the rules as you portray them.


42 posted on 01/13/2011 8:49:41 AM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: stansblugrassgrl

“Blood libel” refers to Jews killing, eating and sucking the blood of children in 12th century Spain. The charges were all lies, of course.

When you say Palin used the term in “EXACTLY the right context,” are you saying someone accused her of killing, eating, and sucking the blood of a child? Because that’s the only “correct context” for the term. Those who’ve used it differently over the past few weeks are simply ignorant of its history. Ignorance is commonplace in many quarters of society, but a dangerous failing in a leader, which is why Palin’s willingness to speak a term of which she is ignorant is so troubling.


43 posted on 01/13/2011 8:51:26 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett
That's a tin ear. That's lack of judgement. And that's just another reason why this lady is nowhere near being ready — or capable — of leading this nation.

To the contrary: the usage was inspired! It perfectly captures the character of her critics!

It's hard to believe how she can hit it out of the park so consistently

44 posted on 01/13/2011 8:56:55 AM PST by papertyger
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To: beckett

Physician heal thyself of ignorance.

When you say “refers to” you are only correct insofar as “blood libel” is the name of the dishonest tactic....NOT the accusation the tactic employed.


45 posted on 01/13/2011 9:07:13 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Arm_Bears
Exactly! Who owns language or words for cryin out loud... If that's the case the Homosexuals STOLE the word GAY from Fred Flinstone... When you're with the Flintstones, have a yabba dabba doo time, a dabba doo time, we'll have a gay old time.
46 posted on 01/13/2011 9:12:10 AM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: beckett
Here’s another example of her lack of hardcore political experience. She never had to use the phrase that others had been using in her defense since the shooting. Let them take the flack. She should’ve risen above the fray. Instead she incorported a term fraught with meaning, both historical and religious, for Jews, and applied it to herself, a Christian.

I am Jewish and I found her usage appropriate. Your "concern" is most interesting.
47 posted on 01/13/2011 9:14:47 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: PA Engineer
I am Jewish and I found her usage appropriate. Your "concern" is most interesting.

Don't you mean "disingenuous?" ;o)

48 posted on 01/13/2011 9:26:43 AM PST by papertyger
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To: beckett

She was accused of having innocent blood on her hands, that she was the one who was at fault for the killings. The charges are all lies, of course. No one has a patent on words. Is the word vendetta exclusive to Italians? History also changes the context of the words. If you are going to get upset by one offense, get upset by all. Why is the first public outcry I can remember relating the possible misuse of the term?

I do not believe that Sarah Palin intended to offend Jews by the combination of those two words. I’ll bet she is a stronger supporter of Israel then a lot of Jews in this country are. She wanted to convey a message, which she did, in my opinion, accurately. It doesn’t matter what she would have said or didn’t say. People who are offended by what she said were going to be offended no matter what two words she put together.


49 posted on 01/13/2011 9:42:58 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: Beelzebubba

Wouldn’t dream of it.


50 posted on 01/13/2011 9:50:25 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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