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Palin and the Blood Libel
JWR - Jewish World Review ^ | Jan 13, 2011 | Jonathan Tobin

Posted on 01/13/2011 7:49:03 AM PST by MsLady

As Sarah Palin has just learned, keeping up with the rules about using phrases that are associated with Jewish history is not as simple as it used to be. I was under the impression that the list of phrases that were considered off limits for general consumption was confined more or less to those associated with the Holocaust. Meaning, for instance, that the use of the word "holocaust" should be confined to discussion of events surrounding the genocide of Jews in Europe between 1933 and 1945. But even that stricture has been hard to enforce. Indeed, when an episode of the TV show The X-Files once referred to the mysterious death of amphibians in a lake as a "frog holocaust," you knew that the word had become more of a metaphor than a specific historical term.

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KEYWORDS: blood; freepressforpalin; giffords; jewish; libel; sarah
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To: stansblugrassgrl

Bottom line—Sarah’s not backing down and it’s driving the Left nuts.


51 posted on 01/13/2011 9:52:31 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

The previous post is said with all due respect. My intention is not to offend, although I tend to do it quite often and with very little effort. I realize it might not be me, might be the sign of the times.

Several times in my life Jewish people I know, family included, have used their Jewishness against me. They’ve used it as an excuse to be offended. I’ve heard “you hate me because I’m Jewish” when trying to clear up a problem so many times in dealing with certain people. Sometimes, I didn’t know the individuals ethnic background until they said I hated them. Surprised the heck out of me.

I’ll probably get flamed for what I just said. It is my personal experience and, again, no offense is intended.
I’ve lost sympathy for those who cry “offense” that when a real offense does occur, it doesn’t mean anything any more.


52 posted on 01/13/2011 10:06:51 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: MsLady
CHRONOLOGY OF ANY EVENT:

1) Negative Event Occurs.
2) Immediately blame Sarah Palin.
3) Events unfold showing Sarah Palin not at fault, or even involved.
4) Blame Sarah Palin harder.
5) IF SARAH PALIN DOES NOT RESPOND: Declare her out-of-touch and non-Presidential.
6) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS MILDLY: Declare her wishy-washy and incapable of leadership.
7) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS FORCEFULLY: Declare her too provocative and incendiary.

53 posted on 01/13/2011 10:31:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: MsLady

In college they are getting bull%$#t in the name of a supposed education by people who are supposed to be trusted and revered for their so called wisdom.

I figure it takes kids years to get over college at times. maybe even a decade.


54 posted on 01/13/2011 11:44:42 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I heard Rush saying once that if took the money you were going to spend on a college education. And instead put that money in a savings account/IRA ect. for retirement years. And went to work somewhere you could work your way up the ladder. You'd actually be better off.

You can learn anything you want to just by reading and doing. I've learned that over and over again in my life. I received advanced personal trainer certification back in the 90's. You were suppose to have a 2-4 year college degree in some medical field. I've never been to college. For about 15 some years I'd been bodybuilding and reading everything I could on nutrition, and the body how it works, like the krebs cycle how the muscle connect and work ect. I passed the test.

55 posted on 01/13/2011 1:22:07 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
You need college to qualify for some of the professions like doctor, lawyer, chemist, engineer, pharmacist and so forth.
If you can market yourself and have a skill rare enough to sell, then you wouldn't need college IMO.

Problems with college these days are that you degrees could be worth nothing.
Lets say you want to be in computer sciences or an engineer. Ends up they go out of the country and hire India's people at 30 cents on the dollar.

We are competing with the slave labor of China and other third world nations from around the world.
Our unions took it too far the other way and ended up closing our manufacturing base for the most part.

My wife is in college right now, we are both lucky to be working as well and I can't say it is easy to suggest a path for her to follow where she could be guaranteed employment.

I have all kinds of friends, one of them is a professor who is also a world class lawyer in the taxation field.
He teaches at a major University here in CA and has seen the class sizes of his tripled because of Democrats coming into power.

Interesting times, sometimes a degree and other times not. Tough to know for sure anything in these tough times IMO.

56 posted on 01/13/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Your right about the degree, sometimes not and sometimes you have to. It’s so darned expensive and so much garbage is taught. You really want to make sure your kids are well grounded before they go. My niece is a mess and it started in college. She still believes the drivel taught to her and it’s been 12 years since she left college.


57 posted on 01/13/2011 2:37:12 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

I agree, the problem is no conservatives really went into teaching and media compared to all the liberals.


58 posted on 01/13/2011 9:59:09 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Yea, I don't get that. We've had years in order to get into college's to teach, yet we haven't. Wonder if the college situation is so bad that many conservatives fear it, or just couldn't take the constant heat?

My sister in law worked for our local school system. She was a teachers aid. Most of the teachers were democrats, union and liberal in varying degrees. She was always uncomfortable. I told her once that maybe she was the only light in a dark place. It's true and I think it helped her cope.

59 posted on 01/14/2011 4:55:03 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
When I was finishing my undergraduate degree (History) I was discussing going on to grad school with one of my professors. He pulled me aside and asked me what I expected to do after grad school. I said that I might go into teaching. He shook his head. "You'll be wasting time and money, if that's why you go to grad school. No one will hire someone with your views. Word will get around. There's just no future in teaching for someone like you."

The guy was a Marxist, but he was honest and well-meaning. I changed my career aspirations on the spot.

60 posted on 01/14/2011 5:01:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
At least your professor was honest. That is rare in a liberal/marxist/socialist. Ends justifies the means. You'd almost have to get in stealth.

In the local schools, you have to teach whatever curriculum they give you. I suppose a good teacher could teach the curriculum and bring in literature that added to it. But, then again maybe not. I'd cringe if I had to teach kids things I knew were lies or half truths. I'd probably be fired before I ever really got started. So many of the school books today have so much omitted. If it doesn't fit the liberal view or isn't PC it's gone. Our the truth is twisted to fit their world view. Many on the left seem delusional to me, when it comes to our history.

61 posted on 01/14/2011 5:16:25 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
I'd cringe if I had to teach kids things I knew were lies or half truths.

Well, here's my follow-up story --

Instead of grad school for history, I went into Library Science. I became a cataloger at a university library (Cambridge, MA) and put in a few years doing that. Very Liberal atmosphere, but I tolerated it. What ended it for me, however, was when a book arrived which told the tale of an African King from Mali who discovered America before Columbus. It seems this King sailed an armada of thousands of ships across the Atlanic in about the year 1400. He taught the Aztecs many things, then sailed back to Africa and told his people of the land he had discovered.

I went to my boss and said "The Library of Congress expects me to catalog this as non-fiction. But it isn't. This didn't happen. No one sailed thousands of ships across the Atlantic in 1400. And the Aztecs were more advanced than the Africans in 1400. They didn't need to be taught anything. I can catalog this as folklore or something similar, but not non-fiction."

She said I had to put it under non-fiction. I applied to grad school for engineering the next week. In some fields, the truth still matters.

62 posted on 01/14/2011 5:31:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy; MsLady
I'd cringe if I had to teach kids things I knew were lies or half truths.

This is EXACTLY the sentiment that has driven me to a fervent study of worldviews and logically defending the truth. We [are going to] homeschool, and I didn't want any of the half truths / half liblies to be passed on through me due to my own education in the public school system.

So, I've made it my mission to seek out and destroy those lies in my own view of the world, and to armor up my kids against the lies of the world that will be foisted on them in their lifetimes.

63 posted on 01/14/2011 5:35:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

YIKES, that’s terrible but believable. No wonder so many kids coming up today don’t seem to get things. They are told so many lies. How would they know? We watched a show about Ben Franklin one night. I can’t remember whether it was the History Channel or Discover Channel. Anyway, I kept telling my hubby, you have to be careful about these shows, sometimes they really twist the truth. Sure enough near the end some liberal yoyo came on and was talking about the Declaration of Independence and how Ben changed something on it. I wish I could remember exactly what that was. But, his face brightened and he basically said, see we aren’t a Christian nation. I thought I’d throw up.


64 posted on 01/14/2011 5:38:36 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: beckett
When you say Palin used the term in “EXACTLY the right context,” are you saying someone accused her of killing, eating, and sucking the blood of a child? Because that’s the only “correct context” for the term. Those who’ve used it differently over the past few weeks are simply ignorant of its history.

The people most upset about its usage are people who don't like Palin anyway. Get over it. Language evolves with usage. It is legitimate to use "blood libel" to refer to a libel over having the blood of innocents on your hands.

I think a lot of Jewish liberals freaked out when what they thought was a phrased owned by them, was used against them.

65 posted on 01/14/2011 5:54:08 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625
Indeed. Similarly, when Republicans explain that cuts in marginal tax rates can help spur the economy -- and point out that JFK had success with this -- the Democrats (and the Kennedy family) go ballistic and accuse the Republicans of "crossing the line" somehow.

"That's our guy. How dare you make use of our guy?!"

66 posted on 01/14/2011 6:12:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: MsLady

If you are being interviewed by a liberal you have to lie about what you think regarding politics and unions.
Once in there with tenure you can do what you want unless you have to change districts and start from the bottom again.


67 posted on 01/14/2011 3:44:09 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: beckett
“Blood libel” refers to Jews killing, eating and sucking the blood of children in 12th century Spain. The charges were all lies, of course.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Gwt off the island.

Blood and libel are two words strung together most prominently first applied to the Romans who blood libeled Christians in regards to the Holy Eucharist. Supposedly the evil Christians were using Roman children for the blood component of the Holy Eucharist in the early Second Century AD. Which, of course, predates the Middle Ages and certain Christian blood libeling of Jews.

68 posted on 01/14/2011 3:53:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Ridiculous. The association of the term “blood libel” with the dawn of anti-Semitism in Europe is so well established as to be undeniable by any serious historian. That cannot be changed by googling the term and trumping up a silly counter-argument whereby Christians become the poor victims. To present such an ahistorical and offensive argument is borderline anti-Semitic itself.


69 posted on 01/15/2011 6:39:57 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett
Anti-Semitic? LOL. Why not racist as well?

The phrase blood libel is not owned by any religion, sect or race. It was applied to the Romans, the Greeks, and Christians alike.

The notion that the use of the phrase is anti-Semitic is insane as is the notion that applying it to the Romans of the second century AD is anti-Semitic.

70 posted on 01/15/2011 8:46:40 AM PST by jwalsh07
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