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NASA says it can't afford new rocket, spacecraft ("...not optional. It's the law...")
AFP ^ | January 13, 2011 | Jean-Louis Santini

Posted on 01/13/2011 4:37:02 PM PST by decimon

WASHINGTON (AFP) – NASA this week told Congress it cannot afford to build a new heavy-lift rocket and spacecraft to replace the retiring space shuttle program within the timeframe and budget approved by lawmakers.

The plan to make a first launch of a new rocket and space capsule to carry astronauts by 2016 "does not appear to be possible" within the projected budget, NASA said in a report to legislators.

Four members of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation shot back that the plan is not optional and that the US space agency must find a way.

"The production of a heavy-lift rocket and capsule is not optional. It's the law," said a joint statement issued late Wednesday by Senators John Rockefeller, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bill Nelson and David Vitter.

"NASA must use its decades of space know-how and billions of dollars in previous investments to come up with a concept that works. We believe it can be done affordably and efficiently -- and, it must be a priority."

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1 posted on 01/13/2011 4:37:03 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

No problemo. We can just keep using the ones we buy from Russia. They will always be there to sell us whatever we require.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 4:39:52 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: decimon

I know! I know!!! Have our dear friends, the Saudis, fund it!

(Think of it as muslim outreach)...


3 posted on 01/13/2011 4:39:52 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 723 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Why can’t we just use the Ballistic boosters
Obama is so intent on dismantling, should be
plenty of them to work with. /S


4 posted on 01/13/2011 4:42:34 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: decimon
"The production of a heavy-lift rocket and capsule is not optional. It's the law," said a joint statement issued late Wednesday by Senators John Rockefeller, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bill Nelson and David Vitter.

Maybe they should just make a law reducing the acceleration due to gravity from 32ft/s2 to just 16 or so.
5 posted on 01/13/2011 4:42:37 PM PST by microgood
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To: decimon
NASA is too busy researching promoting Gore Bull Warming.
6 posted on 01/13/2011 4:43:37 PM PST by rfp1234 (Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!)
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To: decimon

As an engineer at NASA I can say that I wholeheartedly agree. NASA has turned into, for the most part, a government jobs (”diversity is our strength,” “safety is our number one value,” - no mention of fine engineering...) program. Few at the mid-level care about schedules or budgets. Engineering is becoming a lost art as hard questions at critical design reviews are verboten - you will NOT be asked back if you ask why it was designed that way. All of the new money is going toward “Global Warming” research, etc.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 4:46:21 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: rfp1234
"NASA is too busy researching promoting Gore Bull Warming. "

Not to worry. NASA has help in this regard. As I understand it, the CIA will now be responsible for measuring glacial retreat and other "effects" of climate change - you know, for "national security purposes". No. I'm not kidding.

8 posted on 01/13/2011 4:48:08 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: decimon
NASA this week told Congress it cannot afford to build a new heavy-lift rocket and spacecraft

How far we've come from, "Not because they are easy, but because they are hard" - John F. Kennedy, 1962.

But NASA can find time for Muslim Outeach.

9 posted on 01/13/2011 4:49:08 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: decimon

Not at the pace that government works, anyway.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 4:49:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: decimon
Falcon 9 Heavy from Space-X.

The Falcon 9 Heavy will be SpaceX’s entry into the heavy lift launch vehicle category. Capable of lifting over 32,000 kg to Low Earth Orbit (LEO), and over 19,500 kg to Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO), the Falcon 9 Heavy will compete with the largest commercial launchers now available. It consists of a standard Falcon 9 with two additional Falcon 9 first stages acting as liquid strap-on boosters. With the Falcon 9 first stage already designed to support the additional loads of this configuration and with common tanking and engines across both vehicles, development and operation of the Falcon 9 Heavy will be highly cost-effective.

11 posted on 01/13/2011 4:56:28 PM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: decimon
"The production of a heavy-lift rocket and capsule is not optional. It's the law," said a joint statement issued late Wednesday by Senators John Rockefeller, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bill Nelson and David Vitter.

Oh, it's the law?
Well that makes all the difference!

I'm ashamed that a Texas senator is involved in this stupidity. Thankfully she's retiring and we can maybe replace her with someone who has a clue.

12 posted on 01/13/2011 4:57:47 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: decimon

Fire them all.
Give the money to the Skunk Works guys.
Job done.


13 posted on 01/13/2011 4:58:33 PM PST by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: decimon

So we’ll have a ‘cutting edge rocket’ using decades old technology and built on a budget.

Any volunteers to be the first to ride this thing?


14 posted on 01/13/2011 5:01:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grobdriver

Don’t forget who’s in charge of NASA. He’s probably using all the budget for muslim outreach and global warming programs.


15 posted on 01/13/2011 5:02:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wizdum

Heck, just have them use the F-1 from the S-1C of the Saturn V. Those things will lift anything and are reliable (or they were). Not much design needed there.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 5:07:41 PM PST by linuxnut
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To: decimon

Perhaps if they diverted some of the money they waste trying to prove the man-made global warming theory, they could get a down payment on a rocket.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 5:10:44 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: grobdriver

“I’m ashamed that a Texas senator is involved in this stupidity”

Think “Houston, we have a problem.”

It is all about funding. There will always be money to fund one more rocket punching holes in the ozone layer to figure out why the ozone layer is shrinking.


18 posted on 01/13/2011 5:14:56 PM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: Wizdum
There's SpaceX, there's Boeing, and there's Lockheed Martin with heavy-lift vehicles. We can do it without NASA.
19 posted on 01/13/2011 5:18:18 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: decimon

All they have to do is announce they have located the Planet where those green Orion dancing girls are, but they need funding to reach it.


20 posted on 01/13/2011 5:18:34 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: decimon

What a bunch of idiots making technical decisions without having the required brain.

This requires the old adage: “Fast, Good, or Cheap: You can pick two”


21 posted on 01/13/2011 5:19:03 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: decimon
NASA has reached it's end-of-life phase. Give it counseling and hand it a bottle of sugar pills.

Time for Space-X and similar private industries to get us off-planet. The government, especially the Caliphate, has ballsed-up the space effort beyond repair. Time for capitalists to reboot it.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

22 posted on 01/13/2011 5:27:11 PM PST by The Comedian (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope.)
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To: HighWheeler

here I thought that I had come up with that addage...or a variation on it anyways - when nasa was doing their faster better cheaper nonsense in the 90s...


23 posted on 01/13/2011 5:27:22 PM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: decimon

Have the Muslim space experts lend a hand...


24 posted on 01/13/2011 5:31:38 PM PST by scott7278 ( "...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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25 posted on 01/13/2011 5:49:32 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: 1raider1

NASA turned into a panzi fell good program


26 posted on 01/13/2011 6:07:27 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V.........................................FOR VOMIT)
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To: decimon

Time for the Republicans to defund NASA completely......tear them to pieces and throw them to the wind.


27 posted on 01/13/2011 6:11:03 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: decimon
NASA says it can't afford new rocket, spacecraft

No, we can't afford NASA...
28 posted on 01/17/2011 8:09:43 AM PST by sasquatch
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