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Pat Buchanan Smacks Down Bill Press: 'You’ve Got to Get Beyond Being a Fringe Talk Show Host'
News Busters ^ | 15 Jan 2011 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 01/15/2011 11:04:14 AM PST by mandaladon

During an impromptu reunion of CNN's "Crossfire" Friday, Pat Buchanan told his old sparring partner Bill Press, "You’ve got to get beyond being a fringe talk show host."

In the middle of a very heated debate on MSNBC's "The Ed Show," Buchanan strongly cautioned the host and his liberal guest, "I think this last week, there’s been a climate of hatred built up against [Sarah Palin] who did nothing and I tell you, if she does run for president of the United States, I pray to the lord she’s given secret service protection from day one" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

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PRESS: Because, because, Pat, you look at the response to that memorial service where the president hit absolutely the right tone. Sarah Palin is tone deaf, at some point she’s got to go beyond being a fringe candidate, Pat. She had a chance. She missed it. She blew it. She’s done.

BUCHANAN: Look, you’ve got to get beyond being a fringe talk show host, Bill. Here’s what happened.

Great response from Buchanan !

1 posted on 01/15/2011 11:04:16 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; onyx; Lakeshark

Yeah, I don’t agree with everything Pat says, especially with respect to Israel and GWOT, BUT I’m glad he smacked both Press and Schultz down hard this time.


2 posted on 01/15/2011 11:14:20 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: mandaladon

Bill Press is just like every other far left fringe nut job. He’ll make an excuse for anything unless your a Conservative. They’ll take apart everything you say, make something out of it, usually twisting it until they turn it into something they can use against you, then they beat it like beating a dead horse.


3 posted on 01/15/2011 11:15:29 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: onyx

Ping!


4 posted on 01/15/2011 11:18:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: mandaladon

obdumma “hit the right tone”? Maybe for a far left fringe nutjob like Bill Press.

And when a wacko like that calls Palin “fringe,” you know she’s on the right track!


5 posted on 01/15/2011 11:18:52 AM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: mandaladon

One of my great unfulfilled dreams is to smack the smirk off of Bill Press’s smarmy puss.


6 posted on 01/15/2011 11:22:01 AM PST by clintonh8r (Member Emeritus of Vitriolics Anonymous.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Pat is enough of a Lone Indian to get a hearing from these guys.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 11:22:27 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: clintonh8r
One of my great unfulfilled dreams is to smack the smirk off of Bill Press’s smarmy puss.

I would agree, except I wouldn't recognize Bill Press if he threw up on my shoes at a Taco Bell.

8 posted on 01/15/2011 11:24:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lakeshark; Virginia Ridgerunner; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK; ...

I watched the complete video a few minutes ago at Right Scoop, and Pat came out brillianly for Sarah Palin.

Too bad that gawd awful Bill Press got face time, but Buchanan blasted him. It was actually the first time I’ve seen that Ed Schulzt. Ugly bastard, isn’t he? LOL.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 11:29:59 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: mandaladon

Civil war is coming.

May be 20 years, but it’s coming.


10 posted on 01/15/2011 11:36:54 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Al B.; sarah fan UK

The leftists cannot help themselves. They wanted her to apologize. She tells them where to go. They wet themselves.

She beat them. And this is just the beginning. God protect her. She’ll do the rest.

What was said about U.S. Grant applies to Palin in spades.

Referring to his courage when, unlike all previous union generals who retreated after a setback, he continued his advance against Lee after his first encounter had resulted in a disastrous loss in the Wilderness in spring 1864, one Union veteran remarked, “Ole Ulysses don’t scare worth a damn.”

Here, the left failed to even lay a glove on her with their bogus slander, and they expected HER to apologize?! No, sir. Not her. Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, Pawlenty and the rest of the pantywaisted alpha males in the GOP would have apologized on cue out of abject fear. Old Sarah, on the other hand, “don’t scare worth a damn.”

The left had better get used to it. She is moving relentlessly by the right flank, and her target is them.

As I wrote after the November 2012 election:

“There is one candidate in the GOP who has the resolve and political skill to take similar political and rhetorical hits, because she understands one thing: We have the numbers. The other side knows what she is doing and they know the threat she poses for them. Her strategy is not complicated. Our side has the numbers, but has heretofore lacked the will to mobilize them. The left and its Establishment allies are going to try to destroy her and to demoralize her supporters. This was exactly the strategy employed by Lee in 1864. But Grant was a bulldog who simply would not be deterred. I think Grant and Palin share a characteristic that is sadly absent in politicians today: Sherman referred to it as “four o’clock in the morning courage” meaning that you could wake Grant up at four o’clock in the morning with the news that the enemy had turned his right flank and he would be cool as a cucumber. The fearless Palin too “doesn’t scare worth a damn.”

For the next two years, Sarah Palin is going to relentlessly press Democrats and GOP in the Congress toward Conservative Constitutional governance. They are going to be dropping back, losing ground at every turn. And when they diverge from that path (and they will) they are going to feel the sting of her rhetorical, as well as her political, whip. She will be moving on Washington by the Right Flank. Relentlessly.

Governor Palin realizes that the job cannot be completed without the Presidency in 2012. She realizes as well that this is going to be a hard slog, not a walk in the park. I don’t think she is enamored of fame for its own sake and if there were someone else to do the job, she would be happy to yield the stage. But she knows as well that the current crop of McClellans in the GOP either will not, or cannot, restrain the federal leviathan and unleash the productive capacity of the American people. They are either too invested in the current system or too weakwilled or too politically ungifted to achieve it (and in some cases all three). She is the only politician on the scene with the political capacity, the understanding and the will to complete the reorientation of American political system from its current statist spiral toward proper constitutional interpretation and governance.

The Great Civil War Historian Shelby Foote said, referring to Grant and Lee: “Lee always understood the Union Generals. It is not that he didn’t understand Grant. It was that Grant knew how to whip him. And he did.”

The left understands Palin better than many conservatives do. They know what she is up to, which is one reason why they devote so much negative attention to her. But Palin, for her part, has shown that she knows how to whip them. And she will.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2622784/posts

The left’s appointment at Appomattox is November 6, 2012. Don’t be late, fellas.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 11:41:05 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: onyx

Calling him “Sergeant Schultz” is an insult to the late John Banner. BTW, did you know that all the main “Nazi” soldiers on “Hogan’s Heroes” including Oberst (Colonel/Kommandant) Klink, SS-Sturmbannführer (Major) Hochstetter, General der Infanterie (Lieutenant General) Burkhalter and Unterfeldwebel (Staff Sergeant) Schultz were all Jewish?


12 posted on 01/15/2011 11:46:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’m with you. On this issue - Palin - Buchanan is 100% right.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 11:48:26 AM PST by GOPJ (."Blood libel" - - when MSM/Dems incite hatred and violence against conservatives based on lies.)
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To: FlashBack; athelass; Tina Grazier; acapesket; exit82; backwoods-engineer; APatientMan; ...

PING to #11. BC shines again with his prophetic prose!


14 posted on 01/15/2011 11:49:02 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

BTTT


15 posted on 01/15/2011 11:50:07 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, I didn’t. Thanks very much for telling me.


16 posted on 01/15/2011 11:52:55 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: mandaladon

If you have ever watched Bill Press on NPR programs, he is abrasive and a far leftist from way back. His attacks on Sarah Palin are unfounded and if the left stream media continues with their rage against Sarah, she may be the next victim of a leftist lunatic.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 11:53:00 AM PST by mohresearcher
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I would love to see a debate between Mr. Press and Mr. Levin. If it ever happened, there would have to be five minute breaks so Mr. Press could change his Depends.


18 posted on 01/15/2011 11:56:56 AM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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To: onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner

Thanks, guys. The Grant analogy often comes to mind with Palin. So does the Nathan Bedford Forrest on occasion.

Sarah Palin’s performance on the national stage has been, quite literally, so sparkling that it brings to mind a virtual treasure trove of historical metaphors.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 11:59:40 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

Great analogy!


20 posted on 01/15/2011 12:01:39 PM PST by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: mandaladon
The show is still called "Crossfire?"

Why is CNN promoting violent political speech???

21 posted on 01/15/2011 12:09:38 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of Barack Obama.)
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To: mandaladon

This morning I was thinking, Do leftists listen to talk radio? Do leftists and liberals actually listen to Glenn Beck or talk radio? Do they listen to Sarah Palin or what the tea partiers have to say? Most likely not. And who is the most aggressively angry group in the country today that has a tendency toward violence? Hmmm, who, who, who? Oh, yeah, the left, as usual, think 1960’s early 1970’s, just more of the same today. And why is the left so angry today? Could it be that they are angry because they listen to all the Distortions that the msm media tells about the right and what those on the right such as Glenn, talk radio show hosts, Sarah, and the tea partiers say. The msm totally distorts what is said for their own ill gain and flames the ire of those who only listen to the msm. As a matter of fact, I feel angry when I listen to the msm, and not because I believe what they say. I feel angry when I listen to the msm because I know what they say about those on the right is more often not just distortions of the truth, but lies. Maybe we should ban the msm, ha ha, no there’s that constitution, which we on the right believe in, so that is out of the question. So now my question is how does the right break the left out of it’s delusional state? Fortunately their are smarter people then me leading the charge and perhaps one day more and more of the left will wake up and understand what is true and real and what is just delusion and then with their eyes wide open they will become part of the right.


22 posted on 01/15/2011 12:12:57 PM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: mandaladon
Great response from Buchanan !

Yeah!

23 posted on 01/15/2011 12:15:26 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: mandaladon
I saw this live, and it was good TV. Pat beat Press and Schultz hands down. Schultz knew it, but Press is so stupid I doubt if he understood what Pat did to him. Press has always been a whining brain-dead elitist sissy, but he has to be even stupider than I thought when a thug like Schultz realizes he's been verbally beaten while Press just keeps yammering the same talking points exactly like he always does. Press has never had an original thought in his life, and just reads the faxes he gets from the DNC.
24 posted on 01/15/2011 12:17:38 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well said. You expressed my opinion, as well.


25 posted on 01/15/2011 12:17:59 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: mandaladon
You want to see hatred? Wait til Mrs. Palin officially announces she's running. The Secret Service and FBI will be going on 3 hours of sleep a night chasing down all the threats.
26 posted on 01/15/2011 12:20:52 PM PST by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait, there are Jewish actors in Hollywood?? Reeealy? ;>)


27 posted on 01/15/2011 12:21:11 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: clintonh8r
One of my great unfulfilled dreams is to smack the smirk off of Bill Press’s smarmy puss.

For me, electing Sarah Palin is my chosen form of revenge against those leftist idiots. Revenge will be sweet!

28 posted on 01/15/2011 12:21:30 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: This I Wonder32460
This morning I was thinking, Do leftists listen to talk radio? Do leftists and liberals actually listen to Glenn Beck or talk radio? Do they listen to Sarah Palin or what the tea partiers have to say?

Oh they listen! They just don't hear anything they understand.

The ironic thing is that while the left hears and does not understand anything one man that cannot hear gets it all. The man behind the golden microphone. The Will Rogers of our time.

29 posted on 01/15/2011 12:23:13 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Brices Crossroads
As I wrote after the November 2012 election: “There is one candidate in the GOP who has the resolve and political skill to take similar political and rhetorical hits, because she understands one thing: We have the numbers. The other side knows what she is doing and they know the threat she poses for them. Her strategy is not complicated. Our side has the numbers, but has heretofore lacked the will to mobilize them. The left and its Establishment allies are going to try to destroy her and to demoralize her supporters. This was exactly the strategy employed by Lee in 1864. But Grant was a bulldog who simply would not be deterred. I think Grant and Palin share a characteristic that is sadly absent in politicians today: Sherman referred to it as “four o’clock in the morning courage” meaning that you could wake Grant up at four o’clock in the morning with the news that the enemy had turned his right flank and he would be cool as a cucumber. The fearless Palin too “doesn’t scare worth a damn.”

For the next two years, Sarah Palin is going to relentlessly press Democrats and GOP in the Congress toward Conservative Constitutional governance. They are going to be dropping back, losing ground at every turn. And when they diverge from that path (and they will) they are going to feel the sting of her rhetorical, as well as her political, whip. She will be moving on Washington by the Right Flank. Relentlessly.

Governor Palin realizes that the job cannot be completed without the Presidency in 2012. She realizes as well that this is going to be a hard slog, not a walk in the park. I don’t think she is enamored of fame for its own sake and if there were someone else to do the job, she would be happy to yield the stage. But she knows as well that the current crop of McClellans in the GOP either will not, or cannot, restrain the federal leviathan and unleash the productive capacity of the American people. They are either too invested in the current system or too weakwilled or too politically ungifted to achieve it (and in some cases all three). She is the only politician on the scene with the political capacity, the understanding and the will to complete the reorientation of American political system from its current statist spiral toward proper constitutional interpretation and governance.

The Great Civil War Historian Shelby Foote said, referring to Grant and Lee: “Lee always understood the Union Generals. It is not that he didn’t understand Grant. It was that Grant knew how to whip him. And he did.”

The best concise analysis of Sarah's strategy that I've read; incisive, persuasive, and correct.
30 posted on 01/15/2011 12:23:49 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: mandaladon
Every time they saw that Palin's going away now, they never seem to realize:

She's not retreating. She's reloading.

31 posted on 01/15/2011 12:33:17 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
...current crop of McClellans in the GOP...

Excellent, good one.

32 posted on 01/15/2011 12:34:33 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

You write brilliantly and with such insight to history about her. We are blessed to have you.


33 posted on 01/15/2011 12:43:00 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Civil war is coming.

It's already here, IMHO. The libs just haven't figured out we're not gonna take it anymore.

It will really kick into gear after redistricting when the Rats understand they lost a dozen Electoral votes and 20 House seats.

34 posted on 01/15/2011 12:54:14 PM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: Brices Crossroads; 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent post #11.

I am convinced that God has his hand on her. Everytime they attack her she rises stronger. You’d think they’d learn.

Had they just left her alone she’d still be sitting in Juneau worrying about state budgets. They are going to chase her and attack her all the way into the White House.

I don’t know how this is all going to play out. But her courage and grace under fire impress me a great deal. Its more than courage, its grace under fire.

They throw everything they have at her and she just chuckles. And keeps coming.


35 posted on 01/15/2011 12:58:02 PM PST by marron
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To: Tanniker Smith

I previously said that if W won reelection, i was going to go to D.C. for the second inauguration. (I was out of the country for the first one)

If Sarah wins, somehow I WILL be in D.C. (if she runs, of course).


36 posted on 01/15/2011 12:58:45 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Happy New Year. Less than 675 days until we vote out the jackass(es).)
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To: marron

Comedians for Sarah Palin (better than it sounds)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2657533/posts


37 posted on 01/15/2011 1:00:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; sarah fan UK
Pat did well.

I have had some major disagreements with his commentary in the past, but he really got them going didn't he?

Did you notice Bill Press' reaction to being called a fringe talk show host? He went apoplectic with outrage, he could hardly talk he sputtered so much.

I'm not sure he understands the irony of his own temper tantrum. Here he gets one jab thrown at him, and he can't handle it at all without being outraged. I can't imagine what he would do if he was faced with the 24/7 drumbeat that Sarah put up with for five whole days before her very measured response.

Liberalism has truly become deranged.

38 posted on 01/15/2011 1:02:17 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Did you notice Bill Press' reaction to being called a fringe talk show host? He went apoplectic with outrage, he could hardly talk he sputtered so much.

ROTFLOLOLOL.

I can't add to your commentary about that gawd awful Bill Press!

39 posted on 01/15/2011 1:04:46 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: mandaladon

Pat versus Bill isn’t really fair to Bill. We need to find somebody more his speed…like Trig Palin.

On second thought, no. He’s not smarter than the Little Dude, either.


40 posted on 01/15/2011 1:08:02 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: BOOM. Taste My Cluebat!)
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To: onyx
The set up was incredible.

The moderator (Schultz?) is a radical lib. He teed up the topic by giving all the reasons it was Sarah Palin's fault.

Then his moderation role becomes one of arguing with Bill Press against Pat Buchanan, 2 on 1. Liberalism as mental disorder on full display.

I guess the norm is 3 or 4 libs to 1 conservative, which is why Pat got his points across so well.

41 posted on 01/15/2011 1:12:50 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: mandaladon
"Pat. She had a chance. She missed it. She blew it. She’s done. "

I don't get it. What is he taking about?

What chance did Gov Sarah miss?

What do they want from her? do they themselves know?

42 posted on 01/15/2011 1:27:03 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: mandaladon

“She had a chance. She missed it. She blew it. She’s done.”

Says Bill Press. But Bill, it WAS blood libel, don’t you like the truth?


43 posted on 01/15/2011 1:31:32 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: marron

“I am convinced that God has his hand on her. Everytime they attack her she rises stronger.”

I think the other side may realize that they screwed up and made her stronger again. Can you imagine how angry they are now?


44 posted on 01/15/2011 1:33:28 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Christian4Bush

Me too, wouldn’t miss it.


45 posted on 01/15/2011 1:34:23 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Brices Crossroads

Damn, that’s a great post BC!


46 posted on 01/15/2011 1:40:32 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Lakeshark
I was on a troubleshooting telephone discussion with Microsoft today,and after they solved the problem,I mentioned the Videos were down again on my home page. They told me that that was not them but MSNBC that handled that duty. I told the Gal that I thought that Microsoft should totally disavow any connection to that network and really quickly. Then I told her the reasons, and she was shocked when I told her about that crazy S.O.B. Schultz who was so nutty he was threatening his fellow workers. I told her about Matthews,Olberman,Schultz and Maddow and how off the wall scary they are in their psychotic comments. She wanted to change the subject,but I got my points across.
47 posted on 01/15/2011 1:42:25 PM PST by samantha
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To: mandaladon

I do love Pat Buchanan.


48 posted on 01/15/2011 1:53:21 PM PST by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Great post BC & great analogies!


49 posted on 01/15/2011 2:04:13 PM PST by sarah fan UK
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To: Brices Crossroads

Great post, BC, but watch yourself with the war analogies. Verrry uncivil. /s :)


50 posted on 01/15/2011 2:12:05 PM PST by Al B. (Sarah Palin: "Buck up or stay in the truck.")
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