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'Israel tested Stuxnet virus on Dimona plant'
Jerusalem Post ^ | 1/16/2011 | staff

Posted on 01/15/2011 9:55:37 PM PST by americanophile

Report: Israel used centrifuges identical to those in Iran to test out worm that set Teheran's nuclear program years back; virus was authorized by Bush administration, rather than allow an Israeli attack. Israel tested the Stuxnet virus in Dimona, according to a Sunday report by The New York Times.

Israel reportedly has centrifuges that are identical to those at the Iranian nuclear site in Natanz, which were used to test the Stuxnet computer worm.

In 2008, the Times reported, German company Siemens cooperated with the Idaho National Laboratory, allowing it to identify problems in the comany's computer controllers, which are used in Iranian nuclear plants. The laboratory is part of the American Energy Department, which is responsible for nuclear weapons in the US.

The vulnerabilities identified in 2008 were used the following year by Stuxnet.

The Times' report explained how Stuxnet operates. First, it spun Iranian nuclear centrifuges out of control. It would also secretly record the daily routine at the nuuclear plant and play back the recording of a regular day to operators at the plant. This way, it would seem that the facility was operating correctly, while the centrifuges were being destroyed.

The Stuxnet virus enters computers through removable drives or through the internet. It then spreads to other computers and any drives that may be plugged into them. The virus searches for computers with Step 7, software that programs Siemens controllers. After a controller is infected, Stuxnet hides itself. After a few days, the virus speeds and slows motors in such a way that could damage them. At the same time, it sends out the false signals described above.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2008; centrifuges; dimona; idahonationallab; iran; israel; leaks; natanz; nuclear; stuxnet; worm
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1 posted on 01/15/2011 9:55:41 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile
Dear IDF:

Thank you for doing what we didn't have the guts to do. Please know, there are many of us here in the US who are praying for you and for your nation.

Volunteer.

2 posted on 01/15/2011 9:58:26 PM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: americanophile

Pretty cool if true...


3 posted on 01/15/2011 9:59:15 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Volunteer

So, either the Iranians are morons and put their nuclear site on the web, or the Iranians are morons and left their USB ports and CD drives without security.

Or Israel had a system admin planted there.

Wonder if this would work on the Norks.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 10:02:07 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: Volunteer

Amen to that. We could have been smart enough to pull something like this off but we lack the fortitude to actually do it. I’m glad some other countries care about keeping the world a safer place.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 10:02:11 PM PST by bigbob
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The Israelis took out all the Syrian air defense network with one infected printer. Makes me worry about what the Chinese could do to us. Way too much slack from users on the Siprnet for us to have any confidence.


6 posted on 01/15/2011 10:07:27 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: americanophile

I read an article about this awhile back...it was exceptionally interesting how STU worked in messing up Irans system. Many were saying it was absolutely brilliant.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 10:07:29 PM PST by caww
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To: americanophile

It would be far better if this had remained secret for at least a while longer, but trust the NYT to do the dirty.

I bet Siemens isn’t too happy either.


8 posted on 01/15/2011 10:07:40 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: bigbob

According the the article, the US and the Germans were in on it too.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 10:10:57 PM PST by SMCC1
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To: Volunteer

Don’t forget to thank Bill Gates for his role in making it possible :-)

Seriously, anyone who uses Microsoft Windows, attached to the Internet at large, to control a strategic weapons centrifuge deserves exactly what he gets.

(Psst, nobody mention Linux or MacOS)


10 posted on 01/15/2011 10:12:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: americanophile

I posted a link of the article to my Facebook account. A few people liked it !

What I read about the worm, no script kiddies need apply !


11 posted on 01/15/2011 10:15:54 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: americanophile

Maybe, just maybe, Mossad will be dispatched to punish the NY Times for printing this breach of Israel’s secrecy and security.

I know the US has done nothing about the breaches of US security, but Israel may have the courage to do something...


12 posted on 01/15/2011 10:21:15 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: americanophile

bttt


13 posted on 01/15/2011 10:21:44 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: CurlyDave

If Israel had anything to do with it at all.

This could be the usual Moose projection upon the Jews they hate so much of the consequences of their own bumbling and idiocy. And of course the New York Times would eat such a fabrication up. And no I don’t think that there is any “Mossad Mafia” mission to wreak revenge upon the Old Grey Lady, any more than they have done to the anti-Jewish Aftenposten of Sweden.


14 posted on 01/15/2011 10:28:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: americanophile

It was initially reported the Stuxnet was the genius of the Russians. But now we learn it was “Bush’s fault.”


15 posted on 01/15/2011 10:31:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: americanophile
I can just imagine the sort of coonvulsive rage Ahmajinedad must have had when first being informed.

Facility Supervisors being re-assigned.

16 posted on 01/15/2011 10:34:57 PM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Wonder if this would work on the Norks.”

I bet it’s been in place for five or six years now. We can’t let maniacs get a hold of nukes and do nothing.


17 posted on 01/15/2011 10:37:47 PM PST by garjog
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To: americanophile

Loose #$%^ing lips sink %^&**ing ships.


18 posted on 01/15/2011 10:39:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!)
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To: garjog

It’s a little tougher to sneak something into North Korea. But as it looks like North Korea and Iran were collaborating on this little hold-the-world-hostage project, anything that trips Iran up would trip up North Korea too.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 10:55:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: lbryce
lol. Better than that! According to initial reports, the Iranian's stationed "counterterrorist" gestapo types to watching all of the scientists after the Stux was discovered.

I'm sure that increased their will to work by orders of magnitude.

Godspeed

20 posted on 01/15/2011 11:02:22 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: Volunteer

When it comes to “Brains” the Israelis are hard to beat.......and difficult for Arabs or Persians to catch up. Lucky to have them......


21 posted on 01/15/2011 11:02:54 PM PST by saintgermaine
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To: CurlyDave

Pinch, your phone is ringing, it’s the Mossad!


22 posted on 01/15/2011 11:11:37 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: americanophile

Thank you Hashem, George Bush and the Mossad!


23 posted on 01/15/2011 11:20:40 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
So, either the Iranians are morons and put their nuclear site on the web, or the Iranians are morons and left their USB ports and CD drives without security.

If you left your briefcase on the bus would you get it back? How about if you lost your wallet on the bus? The Israelis and Americans are perfectly aware of this.

So... on the day in question a dozen or more employees of the Iranian nuclear facility found wallets with pen drives in them while on the bus headed to work, or briefcases with pen drives in them, or just a pen drive all by itself on the floor of the bus.

Or maybe the drive was "lost" at the mosque near the nuclear facility. Or on the sidewalk.

An infected drive could've found its way into the facility in a thousand ways.

It would be very difficult to impossible to guard against all of these ways in which a removable drive with the Stuxnet virus on it could have gotten onto the grounds of the nuke plant.

In any event, no western agents would have to actually gain entrance into the facility and steal a drive and infect it.

At least, that was the gist of one article I read about it.

24 posted on 01/15/2011 11:32:04 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
Thanks for your comment! I must say, I am absolutely stunned, overwhelmed by it all, ingenious in its conception, creation but what really boggles the mind is the enormity of the logistical undertaking, masterfully executed, the envy of any James Bond caper.

The fury, the unmitigated vehemence that must rage within the Mullah-tocracy!! Not merely wreaking havoc within their prized pet project but just as satisfying is the utter humiliation that resonates throughout every nook and cranny of misbegotten Shi'ite-Land!

25 posted on 01/15/2011 11:32:39 PM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: americanophile
Good Old New York Times.

Happily printung information to aid the enemy.

Some things never change.

26 posted on 01/15/2011 11:34:45 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: LibWhacker

A diskette marked “Naked Persian Girls” probably would have sufficed :-)


27 posted on 01/15/2011 11:52:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I read that the Iranian nuclear network is totally air-gapped. However, they don't seem to have paid much attention to removable media.

The article said the virus was released outside of any government facility, and by now has probably infected millions of PCs in that part of the world. It won't do anything except reproduce itself, unless it finds itself inside the weapons private network. Then it gets busy.

The good guys just had to wait for someone to bring the infection inside. They probably "lost" a laptop or USB drive on a bus, and waited for someone to "find" it. Maybe they enhanced the bait with some files like "Best of Goats 2010 centerfolds, and 2011 calendar". Multiple infection sites would speed things up even more.

28 posted on 01/16/2011 12:02:58 AM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: caww
I read that article too, about slowing down the centrifuges, and how it infiltrated the system, etc., it was fascinating.
29 posted on 01/16/2011 12:06:21 AM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: americanophile

Yasher koach, Israel!(Well done!)


30 posted on 01/16/2011 12:17:20 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: americanophile

Maybe we can license Stuxnet to hit the New York Times.

Nah. It would probably only make their writing better than it is now.


31 posted on 01/16/2011 12:30:47 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (My baloney has a first name, it's DEMOCRAT; my baloney has a second name, it's PARTY)
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To: americanophile
I read that article too, about slowing down the centrifuges, and how it infiltrated the system, etc., it was fascinating

Best part is that the virus recorded good data and sent it to the central control as "everything normal" while cycling the centrifuges up and down to destruction.

32 posted on 01/16/2011 12:31:59 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: spokeshave

I think this is it:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/26/secret-agent-crippled-irans-nuclear-ambitions/


33 posted on 01/16/2011 12:38:21 AM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: LibWhacker; EQAndyBuzz

I recommend this article to you both on how it’s thought they did it, it’s exceptionally interesting:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/26/secret-agent-crippled-irans-nuclear-ambitions/


34 posted on 01/16/2011 12:43:16 AM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: americanophile

Israel designs key elements for the OS.

What’s truly remarkable about this, if true, is that they designed a self attack on their own nuclear site. That’s ballsy.


35 posted on 01/16/2011 1:46:02 AM PST by harmonium
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To: americanophile

Was all this information that was already outed on wikileaks?? If not why are we reading this?? Interesting stuff, the main idea, I already assumed, but why are the enemies suspicions being confirmed and completely detailed on or off the record at this point in time?


36 posted on 01/16/2011 1:59:46 AM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: rfp1234

As an industrial automation and systems integration professional (PLC and drives control background), I have my opinions on what specific devices were likely infected, infection vectors, however I decline to discuss it for the same reason you cite.


37 posted on 01/16/2011 4:08:26 AM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: 300winmag

It won’t do anything except reproduce itself, unless it finds itself inside the weapons private network. Then it gets busy.

According to the article it will only “get busy” if it finds Siemens controllers working P-1 centifuges in a certain configuation, else it remains dormant. It is very specific, not gerneric, in its targeting.


38 posted on 01/16/2011 4:16:03 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: americanophile

‘Israel tested Stuxnet virus on Dimona plant’ -— lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Those evil crafty JewBoys —— ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


39 posted on 01/16/2011 4:20:47 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: harmonium

they designed a self attack on their own nuclear site.That’s ballsy.

Not so much. The P-1s centrifuges were from Lybia, but only the Israelis were able to make them work properly; others - from the same batch - at Livermore could not be made to work correctly. Had Livermore been as dedicated as the Israelis, the US P-1s would have been used.

Full article here and is a thread on FR:
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html


40 posted on 01/16/2011 4:23:49 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: americanophile
LEAKING AMERICAN SECRETS TODAY


LEAKING AMERICAN SECRETS IN THE PAST


41 posted on 01/16/2011 4:26:49 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Fred Hayek
It's been known for a long time exactly what Stuxnet wreaks havoc with (ICS).

Here's a good dossier by wired magazine on the subject: W32.Stuxnet Dossier

42 posted on 01/16/2011 4:32:46 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The gropings will continue until morale improves (or) "don't TSA me bro")
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To: americanophile

Very interesting. I wonder if this also has anything to do with nuclear engineers, professors and physicists meeting tragic fates in Iran.


43 posted on 01/16/2011 7:13:04 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: Volunteer

The Times article clearly states the program was started and run at the orders of the Bush Administration. Further it clearly indicates that all the Bush hating FReepers were totally, absolutely wrong and misguided in their criticism. They were wrong then and are still wrong. They have egg on their faces. They are celebrating today with crow sandwiches.

How does the crow taste? Is it good?


44 posted on 01/16/2011 7:23:52 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: LibWhacker

Or possibly the virus was “carpet bombed” to every IP address within 15 miles of the plant and all the personal computers are still infected. Unless a virus is defined in virus software and stays benign it’s not found in a scan, right?


45 posted on 01/16/2011 7:31:40 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: americanophile

Wasn’t that article posted here on FR? It was a great read on how it worked thru their system ...allot of techies were commmenting so one could understand how remarkable this whole operation was.


46 posted on 01/16/2011 8:22:42 AM PST by caww
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To: bert
Since I am not a Bush hater, I don't think I will be having a helping of crow. But, thank you for the offer.

Defensive much?

47 posted on 01/16/2011 8:36:21 AM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: AzNASCARfan
Interesting stuff, the main idea, I already assumed, but why are the enemies suspicions being confirmed and completely detailed on or off the record at this point in time?

Because Iran realizes the whole world now knows they were completely pwned. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And the paranoid can worry that there are other booby traps either in place already, or waiting to be carried in by someone who could not grasp the concept of IT security.

All your centrifuge belong to us. Someone set up the bomb. Zig for great justice.

48 posted on 01/16/2011 9:13:47 AM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: americanophile

Fascinating, thanks. Absolutely brilliant.


49 posted on 01/16/2011 11:22:51 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: HiTech RedNeck

LOL


50 posted on 01/16/2011 11:26:59 AM PST by LibWhacker
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