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Posted on 01/15/2011 9:55:37 PM PST by americanophile
Report: Israel used centrifuges identical to those in Iran to test out worm that set Teheran's nuclear program years back; virus was authorized by Bush administration, rather than allow an Israeli attack. Israel tested the Stuxnet virus in Dimona, according to a Sunday report by The New York Times.
Israel reportedly has centrifuges that are identical to those at the Iranian nuclear site in Natanz, which were used to test the Stuxnet computer worm.
In 2008, the Times reported, German company Siemens cooperated with the Idaho National Laboratory, allowing it to identify problems in the comany's computer controllers, which are used in Iranian nuclear plants. The laboratory is part of the American Energy Department, which is responsible for nuclear weapons in the US.
The vulnerabilities identified in 2008 were used the following year by Stuxnet.
The Times' report explained how Stuxnet operates. First, it spun Iranian nuclear centrifuges out of control. It would also secretly record the daily routine at the nuuclear plant and play back the recording of a regular day to operators at the plant. This way, it would seem that the facility was operating correctly, while the centrifuges were being destroyed.
The Stuxnet virus enters computers through removable drives or through the internet. It then spreads to other computers and any drives that may be plugged into them. The virus searches for computers with Step 7, software that programs Siemens controllers. After a controller is infected, Stuxnet hides itself. After a few days, the virus speeds and slows motors in such a way that could damage them. At the same time, it sends out the false signals described above.
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Thank you for doing what we didn't have the guts to do. Please know, there are many of us here in the US who are praying for you and for your nation.
Pretty cool if true...
So, either the Iranians are morons and put their nuclear site on the web, or the Iranians are morons and left their USB ports and CD drives without security.
Or Israel had a system admin planted there.
Wonder if this would work on the Norks.
Amen to that. We could have been smart enough to pull something like this off but we lack the fortitude to actually do it. I’m glad some other countries care about keeping the world a safer place.
The Israelis took out all the Syrian air defense network with one infected printer. Makes me worry about what the Chinese could do to us. Way too much slack from users on the Siprnet for us to have any confidence.
I read an article about this awhile back...it was exceptionally interesting how STU worked in messing up Irans system. Many were saying it was absolutely brilliant.
It would be far better if this had remained secret for at least a while longer, but trust the NYT to do the dirty.
I bet Siemens isn’t too happy either.
According the the article, the US and the Germans were in on it too.
Don’t forget to thank Bill Gates for his role in making it possible :-)
Seriously, anyone who uses Microsoft Windows, attached to the Internet at large, to control a strategic weapons centrifuge deserves exactly what he gets.
(Psst, nobody mention Linux or MacOS)
I posted a link of the article to my Facebook account. A few people liked it !
What I read about the worm, no script kiddies need apply !
Maybe, just maybe, Mossad will be dispatched to punish the NY Times for printing this breach of Israel’s secrecy and security.
I know the US has done nothing about the breaches of US security, but Israel may have the courage to do something...
If Israel had anything to do with it at all.
This could be the usual Moose projection upon the Jews they hate so much of the consequences of their own bumbling and idiocy. And of course the New York Times would eat such a fabrication up. And no I don’t think that there is any “Mossad Mafia” mission to wreak revenge upon the Old Grey Lady, any more than they have done to the anti-Jewish Aftenposten of Sweden.
It was initially reported the Stuxnet was the genius of the Russians. But now we learn it was “Bush’s fault.”
Facility Supervisors being re-assigned.
“Wonder if this would work on the Norks.”
I bet it’s been in place for five or six years now. We can’t let maniacs get a hold of nukes and do nothing.
Loose #$%^ing lips sink %^&**ing ships.
It’s a little tougher to sneak something into North Korea. But as it looks like North Korea and Iran were collaborating on this little hold-the-world-hostage project, anything that trips Iran up would trip up North Korea too.
I'm sure that increased their will to work by orders of magnitude.
When it comes to “Brains” the Israelis are hard to beat.......and difficult for Arabs or Persians to catch up. Lucky to have them......
Pinch, your phone is ringing, it’s the Mossad!
Thank you Hashem, George Bush and the Mossad!
If you left your briefcase on the bus would you get it back? How about if you lost your wallet on the bus? The Israelis and Americans are perfectly aware of this.
So... on the day in question a dozen or more employees of the Iranian nuclear facility found wallets with pen drives in them while on the bus headed to work, or briefcases with pen drives in them, or just a pen drive all by itself on the floor of the bus.
Or maybe the drive was "lost" at the mosque near the nuclear facility. Or on the sidewalk.
An infected drive could've found its way into the facility in a thousand ways.
It would be very difficult to impossible to guard against all of these ways in which a removable drive with the Stuxnet virus on it could have gotten onto the grounds of the nuke plant.
In any event, no western agents would have to actually gain entrance into the facility and steal a drive and infect it.
At least, that was the gist of one article I read about it.
The fury, the unmitigated vehemence that must rage within the Mullah-tocracy!! Not merely wreaking havoc within their prized pet project but just as satisfying is the utter humiliation that resonates throughout every nook and cranny of misbegotten Shi'ite-Land!
Happily printung information to aid the enemy.
Some things never change.
A diskette marked “Naked Persian Girls” probably would have sufficed :-)
The article said the virus was released outside of any government facility, and by now has probably infected millions of PCs in that part of the world. It won't do anything except reproduce itself, unless it finds itself inside the weapons private network. Then it gets busy.
The good guys just had to wait for someone to bring the infection inside. They probably "lost" a laptop or USB drive on a bus, and waited for someone to "find" it. Maybe they enhanced the bait with some files like "Best of Goats 2010 centerfolds, and 2011 calendar". Multiple infection sites would speed things up even more.
Yasher koach, Israel!(Well done!)
Maybe we can license Stuxnet to hit the New York Times.
Nah. It would probably only make their writing better than it is now.
Best part is that the virus recorded good data and sent it to the central control as "everything normal" while cycling the centrifuges up and down to destruction.
I recommend this article to you both on how it’s thought they did it, it’s exceptionally interesting:
Israel designs key elements for the OS.
What’s truly remarkable about this, if true, is that they designed a self attack on their own nuclear site. That’s ballsy.
Was all this information that was already outed on wikileaks?? If not why are we reading this?? Interesting stuff, the main idea, I already assumed, but why are the enemies suspicions being confirmed and completely detailed on or off the record at this point in time?
As an industrial automation and systems integration professional (PLC and drives control background), I have my opinions on what specific devices were likely infected, infection vectors, however I decline to discuss it for the same reason you cite.
It won’t do anything except reproduce itself, unless it finds itself inside the weapons private network. Then it gets busy.
According to the article it will only “get busy” if it finds Siemens controllers working P-1 centifuges in a certain configuation, else it remains dormant. It is very specific, not gerneric, in its targeting.
‘Israel tested Stuxnet virus on Dimona plant’ -— lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Those evil crafty JewBoys —— ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
they designed a self attack on their own nuclear site.Thats ballsy.
Not so much. The P-1s centrifuges were from Lybia, but only the Israelis were able to make them work properly; others - from the same batch - at Livermore could not be made to work correctly. Had Livermore been as dedicated as the Israelis, the US P-1s would have been used.
Full article here and is a thread on FR:
Israel Tests on Worm Called Crucial in Iran Nuclear Delay
LEAKING AMERICAN SECRETS IN THE PAST
Here's a good dossier by wired magazine on the subject: W32.Stuxnet Dossier
Very interesting. I wonder if this also has anything to do with nuclear engineers, professors and physicists meeting tragic fates in Iran.
The Times article clearly states the program was started and run at the orders of the Bush Administration. Further it clearly indicates that all the Bush hating FReepers were totally, absolutely wrong and misguided in their criticism. They were wrong then and are still wrong. They have egg on their faces. They are celebrating today with crow sandwiches.
How does the crow taste? Is it good?
Or possibly the virus was “carpet bombed” to every IP address within 15 miles of the plant and all the personal computers are still infected. Unless a virus is defined in virus software and stays benign it’s not found in a scan, right?
Wasn’t that article posted here on FR? It was a great read on how it worked thru their system ...allot of techies were commmenting so one could understand how remarkable this whole operation was.
Because Iran realizes the whole world now knows they were completely pwned. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And the paranoid can worry that there are other booby traps either in place already, or waiting to be carried in by someone who could not grasp the concept of IT security.
All your centrifuge belong to us. Someone set up the bomb. Zig for great justice.
Fascinating, thanks. Absolutely brilliant.