Skip to comments.Rick Warren hosts 'cult' celebrity docs Features promoters of Eastern mysticism, universalism
Posted on 01/16/2011 1:27:36 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
When megachurch pastor Rick Warren decided he needed to take his health seriously, he responded in typically ambitious fashion, launching a year-long health program for his church, "The Daniel Plan," written with the help of three celebrity doctors who will appear at a kickoff seminar today.
But critics point out the physicians who crafted the program apparently don't share the church's professed evangelical beliefs, espousing instead various forms of Eastern mysticism and the tenets of a Christian cult, Swedenborgism.
Vowing to lose 90 pounds, Warren said he placed himself under the care of Drs. Mehmet Oz, Daniel Amen and Mark Hyman last fall and worked with each to develop "The Daniel Plan."
Oz, host of the Emmy-winning "Dr. Oz Show" and professor of surgery at Columbia University, says he is inspired by Emanuel Swedenborg, an 18th century cult founder who taught that all religions lead to God and denied orthodox Christian beliefs such at the atonement of Christ for sin, the trinity and the deity of the Holy Spirit.
Best-selling author Amen, a professor of psychiatry at the University of California at Irvine, teaches Eastern religious meditation and the New Age energy-based practice of Reiki.
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Are you saying Christians should only see doctors who share their faith? They shouldn’t have a Jewish doctor either?
I would hardly equate Judaism with Reiki. I’m saying this guy who is a “pastor” is encouraging his congregation to seek out the advice of these drs who very well may lead them astray. Don’t you get that?
The point is, this guy has claimed to be a Christian. Clearly, he’s as untrustworthy as they come.
Maybe I don't have all the information, but this kinda odd to me.
What to expect, though, this is California we're talking about here.
Were they actually teaching mysticism or were they doctors who happen to be believers in other faiths? There is a big difference. If they aren’t actually teaching their religion but simply using medical knowledge, I’m fine with it. Some things we used to consider mystic medical practice, like acupuncture, are now known to be legitimate medical practices for some things.
Rick Warren is 0ne of those preaching about bring people together to 0ne Sabbath, 0ne world with 0bama and 0prah.
“Christians should only see doctors who share their faith?”
Rick Warren is pushing to his congregation people who are espousing in their own life and asking Christians to practice Eastern type mysticism. Rick Warren is passing this as Christianity while it really is hokus-pokus voodoo style indoctrination.
So it would be like going to a Jewish doctor and being told to keep your house kosher and read the Talmud as the remedy for being over weight.
I’d hardly expect my pastor to encourage me to take the advice of a psychiatrist who believes in healing through meditation & Reiki. Evil evil evil! Talk about opening one up for the influences of Satan!
Those who equate this with a Jew seeing a Christian dr or vice versa are missing the point. This relativistic way of thinking is why we have the problems we do today. Rick Warren is a salesman and a joke.
Anyone know much about Rick Warren? The small groups I was involved with was doing the series, healing choices and had video segments and Rick Warren was the speaker, he struck me as a snake oil salesman, and I wasn’t comfortable with him.
Have you ever attended his church and heard an actual sermon or just second hand online? I don’t attend his church, I attend another mega church nearby, but I attend Bible studies with other women that attend Saddleback, and my daughter attends a homeschool activity with several women who are pastor’s wives from there. Everyone I talk to from there is pretty straight and narrow as far as the Word.
I wouldn’t go to Dr. Amen for spiritual guidance, but I would for some medical guidance.
Maybe he wouldn’t be a “mega”church pastor if folks didn’t give him mega-publicity.
To all FREEPERS.
Go back as fat as freerepubic allows — I posted that Rick Warren was a sheep in wolf’s clothing BEFORE the Gore interview, the North Korea Visit, etc.
This guy (Warren) literally believes the ends justify the means.
When you combine this with religion (or government), it’s VERY dangerous.
Rick Warren - The White Man’s Elijah Muhammed. (TM),
Ol' Rick's trying to get himself back in the news!
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Warren was not too theological to begin with
I suspect more people have atheist or agnostic doctors than anything.
I don’t ask.
If you research Warren your suspicions will be confirmed, he doesn’t pass the smell test. Also, why is a preacher a member of the Council on Foreign Relations? I’d rather have the enemy in front of me than behind me. This guy is rotten.
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The daddy of 20th Century theology. You perceive liberal theology to be a disaster and so you insist that the revelation of Christ, not human experience, should be the starting point for all theology.
I didn’t see anything in the article about him promoting any other faiths, just a diet designed by doctors who happen to be of other faiths. Did I miss something? I don’t know if it’s medically sound or not, but if he is only promoting the diet, what’s the problem?
I have a bad feeling that when this fellow gets “important” enough he may openly change religions, with the intention of taking his followers and readers with him.He may have been planning this all along.His gullible followers need to be warned.We may be talking another cult on the scale of scientology.
Thanks for the heads up, ya he wasn’t sitting right with me, now I will have to do some research, any good ideas on where to start?
When defending a biblical worldview in the marketplace of ideas,Christians, and especially Christian pastors, must present the truth in order to set free those who have been captured by deceptive philosophies such as New Age cosmic humanism and eastern panteistic monism.
Something’s screwy. It won’t let me go to the next page. :~( Tried it more than several times.
As a matter of fact Christians and Jew don't share the same faith, they share the same values. But Jews don't believe Jesus was the Son of God, that he died for our sins, that salvation comes from faith not good works, or that only believers are saved. They do believe that even nonbeilievers will be allowed in heaven if they are righteous. That's far more like Swedenborgianism and other Universalists than traditional Christian theology.
For instance, Dogs don't poop where they eat.
I tend to google all the religious characters that get larger than life and dig around. I like to check out their foundations and see if they’re solid. Sadly, there is a lot of rotten apples floating at the top. I even believe a guy I defended for many years is rotten but I’ll let that go for the time being.
I suppose these charlatans and apostates are a sign of the times and prophesy being realized but it angers me when I think about it. The greatest enemy appears to have breached the perimeter by invitation.
Stop right there. I understand where you are coming from but are you then saying that the OLD AND THE NEW TESTAMENT ARE NOT BOUND TOGETHER IN THE SAME BIBLE? (now I know that is not what you are saying but most of you misunderstand what I am saying) Excuse me also for thinking that Jesus WAS A JEW.
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Thanks for posting this. Another good article here:
Why is Obama’s evil in Rick Warren’s pulpit?
Posted: November 17, 2006
1:00 am Eastern
Warren’s P.E.A.C.E. Plan & UN Goals - Part 1
The Emerging Global ‘Church’
What’s more, today’s soft, social “gospel” conforms easily to UNESCO’s guidelines for religion in the new world order. Remember Pastor Warren’s words, “The first [Reformation] was about beliefs. This one will be about deeds.”
from Warrens own mouth
Years ago, I bought and started to read “Purpose Driven Life”.....I got part way through it and put it away.....why do we need books like his when we have the Bible?
Matthew 7:15 comes to mind when I think of Rick and his peers.....
I am amazed at the number of “Christians” that think he is wonderful......
Of course.. seems only the next logical level..
Yep if they were actually preaching the gospel, they would be OPPOSED by the world; not ‘embraced’ by them..in all fairness I do not preach (or live the gospel) like I should so I am a hypocrite.
Once preachers go down the road of pop religion, there is no end to their apostasy.
“Hyman, a four-time New York Times best-selling author, promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles. “
It’s a shame the author didn’t do some homework about the doctors.
I’m currently reading a book by Dr. Hyman about curing your brain with nutrition. He covers Alzheimers, dementia and autism.
This book should be read by everyone, basically he says most health problems can be cured thru nutrition and we are being poisoned by the US Gov’t food guidelines. Gee how can anyone argue with that?
i always liked the Swedish meatballs at the smorgasboord
Warren is a wolf in sheeps clothing
Saddle back is SUPPOSED to be a church not a hospital
Shhhh he does not know that...
I had lots of images flash through my head but none of them were appropriate for church.
“Warren is a wolf in sheeps clothing”
That about sums it up!!! :-)
I am not surprised at all, since it is Rick Warren.