Skip to comments.Palin is the Republican Obama
Posted on 01/19/2011 12:18:49 AM PST by pissant
When you ask Barack Obamas admirers what they like most about him, you will typically hear of his personality traits before any specifics about policy. Obamas fans say that he is so smart cool-headed articulate To point out that in terms of policy, Obama isnt that different from most other conventional Democratsor even that different from George W. Bushdoes little to dissuade the presidents most ardent champions, and any failure to live up to liberal ideals does little to change Obamas current popular status as liberalism personified.
Sarah Palin is the Republican Obama. When you ask Palins admirers what they like most about her, you will typically hear of her personality traits before any specifics about policy. Palins fans say that she is warm-hearted down-to-earth a good mom To point out that Palins actual politics arent that different from most other conventional Republicans, or in some ways, not much different from Obamas, does not dissuade the former Alaska governors most ardent champions. And any failure to live up to conservative ideals fails to change Palins popular status as conservatism personified.
Obama and Palin represent opposing versions of the same identity politics. Based primarily on personality, love, or hatred for the other, it is politics driven primarily by emotionnot logic. If you dont believe me, try telling an Obama-loving Democrat that he is no different from a Palin-loving Republican or vice versa. Even the soundest reasoning will do little to quell the forthcoming rage.
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Hunter thinks Obama is another Bush... that’s all I had to see
I don’t know who this Hunter guy is, but the level of worship is roughly equivalent.
Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. Every one of these you post makes me set my Palin 2012 fundraising goals higher and higher. If she were the greedy crooked pol that the presstitutes sometimes try and paint her, I’d be on the path to being named the ambassador to the Bahamas before this was all over... “FWIW” indeed...
If you get appointed Ambassador to the Bahamas, we’re crashing your beach house.
All FReepers and Lurkers will be welcome. Check with my butler, maid or manservant as to room availability, though...
Room? Tent on the beach will be fine. Large buckets of ice cold beer is scantily clad help would be nice though.
Drug-induced commie-style propaganda crap!
I can’t think of a single area where she is more conservative than your run of mill republican. I can think of several where she is more liberal.
Abortion? The vast, vast majority of GOPers are pro-life. And many want to amend the constitution to define life as beginning at conception. Even old Ron Paul favors that.
Palin? She’s an avowed federalist that doesn’t want the federal government making that decision. That’s a cop out, big time, especially in light of the fact she has no problem cheerleading for the Feds to cram feminist CLAPTRAP like Title IX down every state and citizens’ throat.
Correction. Sarah Palin is the Anti-Obama. They are polar opposites. Anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial and not politically astute.
So ... she's pro-States Rights? I'm not seeing the problem with that.
You may not be aware of this - after all, you appear to believe in the veracity of CNN and PPP polls, so it's hard to be sure of what you're aware of - but devolving power to the States Or To The People is the Conservative, Constitutional position.
FWIW, Comparing Palin to another “genuine conservative” like Romney or Huckabee shows some real differences. All articulate the same beliefs in front of a conservative audience. The difference is not that Palin is “warm-hearted down-to-earth a good mom ” but that she genuinely believes in those values and articulates the same values regardless of her audience - and she governs by those values to the extent that the state Constitution and court rulings permit.
Palin is pro-gun, pro-Second Amendment when she’s hunting to bring home dinner for her family and not just when speaking to the NRA. Palin is pro-life when she’s pregnant with a Downs Syndrome baby and when her teen daughter is pregnant and not just in campaign sound bites. Palin is pro-military when her son is choosing a job and not just in her Veteran’s Day speeches. Palin believes in limited government and the separation of powers even when those limits prevent her office from doing what she would like to do. I was a big fan of hers well before McCain chose her for VP, and I read about her effective governance well before the mainstream media got into their anti-Palin game.
Sarah Palin can produce a legitimate birth certificate..A major difference.
Dont know who he has been talking too, I hear more descriptions like pitbull, and non-typical politician...
Sarah’s list of positive accomplishments is still miles longer than Obama’s.
I can agree with him and still believe that a Palin adminstration on its worst day would be better than the incumbent on its best.
Not A Whole Lot
I mean, why don’t you just be truthful and say you are lying? Palin has s much to do with the old line republicrats as I do, and that would be zilch. But don’t let that stop you from posting more crap pissant.
This is true.
Of course, instead of sweeping a government of communists, grifters, and scumbags, Sarah will bring with her a flood of patriots.
But the analogy (electorally) with Obama is quite accurate, I’ve used it myself.
Pissant, Gov. Palin is much more conservative
than the RINOs you support like Barbour, Ron Paul and
Pissant, you support RINOs. Give it a break.
Man, everybody has to get into the act!
“Sarah Palin is the Anti-Obama. They are polar opposites.”
Bingo! Saying she’s the Republican Obama is a true insult to her, as it implies:
a) She’s a shameless liar willing to say anything to see her unpopular policies crammed down the throats of Americans against their willing;
b) She’s a hypocrite willing to call out her opponents for their lack of civility even as she engages some of the most offensive and divisive rhetoric ever witnessed by an alleged national leader;
c) She’s a patronage politician who views government service as an opportunity to reward friends and punish enemies with funds, jobs and all other manner of taxpayer-financed loot;
d) She’s a shameless spendthrift happily willing to mortgage the country’s future in the service of her spending priorities;
e) She’s an artful dissembler unable or unwilling to produce a legitimate birth certificate or be transparent about her academic records or other information that routinely has been provided by past presidential candidates; indeed, she’d rather let a decorated military officer sit in prison than release a simple document that tens of millions of Americans are routinely asked to produce in the course of securing jobs or even allowing their kids to participant in sports.
The list is much longer, but you get the idea.
BTW. off topic: Drudge is reporting a WND story that the Governor of Hawaii cannot find Dear Leader’s hospital issued birth certificate in any state archive yet... only a written statement by someone that Our Dear Leader was so born in Hawaii.
With that opening statement, the writer totally discredited himself and demonstrated he has no clue why America supports Sarah.
Snippet from the WND story http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833:
“WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center has any record that Obama was born there.”
Sarah has my vote, and it isn't because of any warm fuzzy feeling. I like her politics. I like her willingness to fight and not back down. I like her small business background and NON HARVARD or YALE education. It is time for real Americans to once again fix our nation. The ivy league screwballs need to go ponder their thumbs.
Well, it’s not worth much.
The slander Governor Palin must endure is sometimes unbearable...
This is a low blow... even for you. obama is evil icarnate. Sarah is in no way evil... but this post and the author are.
I tend to agree with Palin on that view as an ideal, also relating to the Civil Rights act, hate crime laws and other Federal government power expansions. In fact I can live with states making their own marriage laws too. It's hard to object to Democrats expansions of federal power as unconstitutional and support other ones on issues we agree with.
This seems to be in the context of her being presidential material . FROM THE POST LINK:
“So why the focus on Palin? Why so much conversation about a conversation not even worth having? Because liberals now project everything they hate about the GOP, the Tea Party, and conservatives onto Palin. This time the longstanding hatred became so ferocious that it also became blinding, resulting in accusations that were completely baseless.
I dislike Obama because of his big government policies, which are in large part an even more ambitious continuation of the last Republican presidents agenda. I dislike Palin because her rhetoric is little more than sound bites and catchphrases, making it hard to imagine that she possesses a genuinely sound conservative philosophy to substantively refute and reject the same big government policies. Palin also seems willing to ignore the conservative hypocrisy that ruined the Bush presidency and Republican Partymeaning perhaps she would also be willing to endure another round of it. This simply will not do. That Obama is charismatic does not excuse his horrible policiesand that Palin is cute or charming does not excuse her less than comprehensive conservative politics”
BS! FWIW I'm getting really sick of your trying to dig up dirt on this good woman.
I have to say that Pissant is doing a service with his work, even though he is pretty much a one note wonder as far as Palin goes. He brings stuff that folks are saying that is provocative. It typically is a slander or libel of some sort when you get down to it, but he searches for effective ones and tries to post them as an argument against her. And frankly, it gives folks a chance to pick that argument apart.
Pissant is not engaging in the I hate Palin thing, or she is dumb thing. He attempts to find evidence. This is what we do here. You could call him a contrarian specialist.
He has his role around here, despicable as it is. In politics we call this the loyal opposition. Pissant mostly stays inside the bounds and passionately pushes his point of view. This is a good thing and not a bad one. But, of course, then you have to pick this crap apart and show him once again how this is so wrong. But, hey that's what we do here.
UNless you honestly believe that the fetus is a living human being.
I support Ron Paul? Romney? Barbour? If you’re that removed from reality, then I guess I understand why you think Palin is a conservative
No, I (and apparently Palin) believe in the US constitution where BOTH abortion laws AND murder laws should both be at the state level as they were most of US history. I understand the political expediency in crafting these Federal laws but it sort of throws the argument that the other side violates the Constitution in the tank. That was the big problem with Bush apologists that suddenly got religion on the constitution January 2009. And there are many other examples i wont go into here.
No. If you believe that an unborn child is indeed a human being, then they are deserving of constitutional protections. We can leave it up to the states how they want to punish the crime of abortion. The states all prosecute murder, for it is understood that all citizens have a constitutional right to their life. IOW, a state cannot decide that murder is OK if you are a homeless drunk. Or retarded. Or a certain minority. Or a certain age (except pre-born).
This has nothing to do with Bush. Bush didn’t push for ‘life at conception’ legislation nor did he tout an amendment remedy. Either an unborn child is a person or he isn’t
You are completely misreading the US constitution as Democrats and many Republicans do. The US constitution protects you FROM the government, NOT from your mother. It is the state's job to protect you from your parents, or anyone else. That is why states made the murder and abortion laws for most of US history. The 1960s civil rights act has some provisions that should have been ruled unconstitutional and would of been 50 years earlier, primarily regarding private businesses.
The expansive view of US constitutional protections, that it protects everybody from everybody, is how we get the government taking businesses and property and giving it to others.
Palin is growing on me the last few comments.
No, YOU misread the constitution. And have it ass backwards, as well as the Declaration of Independence. Our rights, life, liberty are given to us by our creator. They are inalienable, and codified in the constitution. Georgia cannot decide not to prosecute citizens for violating another’s constitutional rights. The KKK rightly became a federal concern. Just as it is illegal, FINALLY, for Chicago to ban handguns. So too, would it be illegal for “gun control” vigilantes to set up roadblocks in Illinois and confiscate other citizens firearms. Illinois would be the place to prosecute such vigilantes, but if they chose instead to “legalize” such activity via non-prosecution, the citizens would have a federal remedy.
The constitution protects you from the government, not you from your parents. That was left to the states. If it was the federal governments job in the US constitution to protect you from your parents, it would make perfect sense for the Federal government to force you to go to a doctor and get medical treatment(even if you are not a threat), to protect you from you letting yourself get sick.
The US constitution was not interpreted as you do as all powerful until Roosevelt packed the courts.
Nonsense. NO entity, mom, State, Uncle Mo, gets to violate another’s constitutional rights.
Can the KKK set up road blocks to keep blacks from voting if SC decides it likes the KKK.
Can Oregon allow doctors to execute any patient over 65 who needs a knee replacement?
Can Hawaii turn a blind eye if the ‘native’ population goes on a vigilante confiscation of “whitey” property?
Your medical treatment example is a straw man. The constitution does not address medical care, and therefore that is (or needs to be) entirely a state/individual matter. Just as SHOULD be 80% of what the feds have put their paws in.
The Constitution does address voting, gun ownership, LIFE, property, due process, etc etc, which neither the states, nor towns, nor counties, not homeowners associations, nor vigilantes, nor cousin Zeke, can violate.
“Drill Baby Drill” is not a personality trait . Its common sense.
And the prospects for American energy independence threaten the entire geopolitical New World Order strategy.
Because she could pull it off.
Palin is not a Progressive...PERIOD.
They hate her so much because she refuses to live a lie.
The Progressives only know how to live a lie and they want to force everyone else into their personal hell.
This is why constitutional arguments against Obama dont get taken seriously, because so many Republicans want to give unlimited power to the Federal government to force things they think are right.