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New Jersey gun case demonstrates no justice possible through lawful avenues
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 18 January, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 01/19/2011 6:52:15 PM PST by marktwain

“A late flight landed Utah gun owner Greg Revell in jail for 10 days after he got stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City,” the Associated Press reports.

Because of a late flight, Revell missed his connecting flight. His luggage had been erroneously routed to Newark. He collected it.

And he was then arrested, going through a nightmare that included “10 days in several different jails”—and think about that, and the type of terrifying population they had this man immersed in. He had charges hanging over his head for months, and his private property confiscated for years.

I wish some of us didn’t have to say “We told you so.”

And the government’s response?

Prosecutors said it doesn't matter whose fault it was…

And:

Lower courts have thrown out his lawsuit

They’re “sympathetic.” They even admit this entire injustice is “through no fault of [Revell’s].” But their hands are tied. Because one of the main purposes for having government in the first damn place, “to secure the Blessings of Liberty,” must take a back seat to treasonous, self-serving legislative and judicial perversions of the original mandate.

We’re told “the Supreme Court could decide Tuesday whether to consider letting Revell sue.”

They have:

Jan 18 2011 Petition DENIED.

A quote from John F. Kennedy comes to mind:

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

Don’t expect the anti-defense lobby to condemn this outrage, to agree that a gross injustice has occurred, and to call for it being rectified so that no citizen will ever again be so victimized by the state. All their talk about “common sense” and a “reasonable middle ground” is just that—talk. It’s a smokescreen to allow them to advance from their beachhead, never to ease back and practice some of that “compromise” they’re continually hitting us over the head with.

As things stand now, there is no relief from this injustice. Which kind of makes me wonder if these newly-empowered Republicans, the ones who’ve promised us they’re all for principled government—and who were put in power largely through the efforts of involved gun owners—are going to take the lead on fixing this obscene outrage.

Or will peaceful resolution remain impossible under their leadership, too?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; cwiiping; gun; liberalfascism; nazistate; nj; policestate; rapeofliberty; tyranny
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Time for legislation to provide for relief.
1 posted on 01/19/2011 6:52:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Oooh! Yes!!!!” Legislation, that’ll set the tyranny straight, yup.


2 posted on 01/19/2011 6:55:34 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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To: marktwain
Couldn't he have avoided this problem? Oh I get it, he is another hero pushing the limits of the unconstitutional law to restore rights for all. Or was he an ignorant dork that outsmarted himself. Did he think he could legally possess a weapon in New Jersey?
3 posted on 01/19/2011 7:02:24 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: kbennkc

read the article fool


4 posted on 01/19/2011 7:05:27 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain

Is there no justice or common sense and only a government of jack booted “public servants” with gold plated benefits who apparently have license to run ramshod over those who pay to operate it?

I belong to the NRA because I expect them to step up to the plate with the help of my donations and back-up victims of such predatory government policy. This is an outrage.


5 posted on 01/19/2011 7:06:57 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: marktwain

The Nazi state of New Jersey, where only criminals can safely possess a firearm. Democrat politicians, left to their own devices will happily take all of us to this place. And they will be fully supported by our draconian judiciary. It’s for our own safety, don’t you know.


6 posted on 01/19/2011 7:08:35 PM PST by centurion316
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To: marktwain

I’ve always said that Liberty International Airport in Newark is the @$$hole of this nation. I will never fly to or through New Jersey ever again.


7 posted on 01/19/2011 7:16:21 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: kbennkc

Your tag line is ashamed of that post.


8 posted on 01/19/2011 7:19:39 PM PST by bvw
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To: marktwain
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
9 posted on 01/19/2011 7:24:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: marktwain

Maybe he went after the wrong people?

If he checked the gun legally in Utah, and the late flight
caused the delay, doesn’t the airline bear some responsibility for this snafu?

I’m just wondering about the competence of his attorney.

None of this diminishes the outrage, but maybe he fought the wrong battle to start.


10 posted on 01/19/2011 7:30:26 PM PST by tsomer
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To: marktwain

I would suppose, knowing that the gun was “radioactive” in New Jersey, he was expected to abandon the luggage? Or to ask the airline to handle it themselves and forward it to the intended destination? Or to ask police to take the gun from the luggage so he could then take possession of the remainder?

One thing, common sense did not govern. And we can hardly expect gun grabber Christie to care.


11 posted on 01/19/2011 7:30:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Blue Jays
Imagine the horror of being simply an average man or woman...and finding yourself in general population in jail due to technicalities at the hands of an overreaching government? What a nightmare.
12 posted on 01/19/2011 7:31:20 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: kbennkc

Couldn’t you have avoided cramming your foot in your mouth?


13 posted on 01/19/2011 7:32:18 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: kbennkc

Did you really read what happened?


15 posted on 01/19/2011 8:18:50 PM PST by SootyFoot2
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To: centurion316

Not just Democrats. The current incumbent and his AG Paula Dow are hardly pro-Second Amendment.


16 posted on 01/19/2011 8:24:29 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: marktwain
This makes me want to do something felonious.

The password is 'jailbreak'.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 01/19/2011 8:33:54 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Or to ask the airline to handle it themselves and forward it to the intended destination?”

Evidently the only way to avoid breaking local law.

“And we can hardly expect gun grabber Christie to care.”

Since all this happened long before Christie became Governor, the comment is inappropriate.

Mr Revell made an honest and natural mistake by claiming his luggage, and ran afoul of our stupid New Jersey gun laws. It sounds as though it was straightened out in 10 days by the local D.A. behaving rationally, which you certainly can’t always count on. Technically Revell was in violation of New Jersey law, and he’s very lucky he wasn’t blackmailed into pleading guilty to something in order to avoid prison. Given normal doctrines of sovereign immunity Revell really never had a tort case, and was foolish to waste his time in court. If he had made the same gun mistake in NYC, he would probably still be in prison.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 8:41:06 PM PST by devere
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To: devere

And the State, it seems, is TECHNICALLY in violation of this [federal] law:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000241——000-.html

Ah, but we mere peons have no standing; I keep making the mistake that Governments [and their agents] should be bound by law as well.


19 posted on 01/19/2011 8:54:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: devere

Wouldn’t Christie’s signature be needed on any remedial legislation or private bill to reimburse Revell?


20 posted on 01/19/2011 9:04:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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