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GOP's childish opposition to healthcare reform
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 21, 2011 | David Lazarus

Posted on 01/21/2011 5:02:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

.....The repeal bill will now likely perish in the Democratic-controlled Senate, and in any case would almost certainly face a presidential veto if it miraculously made it that far. But House Republicans say they'll still obstruct the healthcare law by blocking funds to implement its provisions.

It's hard not to think of a bunch of spoiled children throwing a tantrum because they didn't get their way.

The healthcare reform law, while imperfect, is a done deal. The prudent thing to do at this point is to build on it rather than waste time with fruitless — and needlessly divisive — political grandstanding.

And the Republicans have outdone themselves for misinforming the American people about what the reform law will and will not do.

Aside from scurrilous talk of "death panels" and "socialized medicine," House Republicans have reimagined healthcare reform as a jobs bill, rather than as a long-overdue revamping of how medical treatment is accessed and delivered in a country with about 50 million people lacking insurance coverage.

They titled their legislation the "Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act." They claimed that 650,000 jobs will be lost....

[snip -- long diatribe about the GOP inventing facts goes here]

Conservatives might have ideological differences with some aspects of the reform law. Those differences should be respected.

But House Republicans have no business attempting to undermine a law just because they disagree with parts of it. It's as if Southern lawmakers had tried to block or repeal the Civil Rights Act after it became law in 1964.

They didn't because they had the maturity to accept the new status quo and move on. Today's Republicans should take a lesson from them.

As Frist said, healthcare reform is the law of the land. Deal with it. Work with it.

Grow up already.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 112th; bhohealthcare; congress; healthcare; repeal
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We're getting under their skin by informing the electorate of the truth.
1 posted on 01/21/2011 5:02:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Elections have consequences.
2 posted on 01/21/2011 5:04:38 AM PST by JPG (There is hope for America and her name is Sarah Palin.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The condition of the United States Treasury is not in a condition to begin a subsidized program it can’t afford. It will have to default alone on Social Security, WHY add an extra expense to the National Debt.....Duh!


3 posted on 01/21/2011 5:04:38 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Childish”?

Passing legislation angrily opposed by the majority of the people, including a disproportionate percentage of the productive members of our society, is flat out arrogance, they type you see in spoiled brats always wanting their way

The immaturity is found on your side, author. Go look in the mirror.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 5:05:11 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Adult opposition to communism.


5 posted on 01/21/2011 5:05:33 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Where is the “reform,” LAT?

Where is the “healthcare?”

And to find “childish,” look no farther than Cohen and Jackson Lee.


6 posted on 01/21/2011 5:05:56 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Childish”?!

Is it “childish” for me to wish that the Los Angeles Times was 3-ply......so I could use it to wipe my ass daily? =.=


7 posted on 01/21/2011 5:06:13 AM PST by cranked
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"The healthcare reform law, while imperfect, is a done deal."

Nothing is ever done. Just look at the tax code.

The bill passed through fraud in the process and content.

8 posted on 01/21/2011 5:09:21 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But carrying a gigantic gavel through a crowd while grinning like an idiot and gloating is quite mature.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 5:10:55 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's hard not to think of a bunch of spoiled children throwing a tantrum because they didn't get their way.

In case you didn't notice, this bunch of children is NOT THE SAME BUNCH as the bunch that passed this mess AGAINST THE WILL of the people.

10 posted on 01/21/2011 5:11:54 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: All

The House funds things, right? If they don’t fund the thing it’s dead or am I wrong?


11 posted on 01/21/2011 5:13:47 AM PST by Doofer
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To: All

The House funds things, right? If they don’t fund the thing it’s dead or am I wrong?


12 posted on 01/21/2011 5:13:48 AM PST by Doofer
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To: Izzy Dunne

I believe the “childish” group he is pointing to is all those Americans in fly-over country that don’t want what the Left is dishing up and who rose up and elected a majority in the House and who will be doing the same thing to the Senate in 2012.


13 posted on 01/21/2011 5:15:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

psssst, LA Times, let you in on a little secret. The American People hate this. They will only hate it more as it is further implemented. “Done deal” I will tell you what is a done deal. The democrat party is done as this healthcare law will give the Republicans an issue to pound the dems with for years. Here is the kicker, the democrats know it and will have to rectify sooner or later. Ask Ben Nelson and some of his colleagues up for re-election in the Senate this year.

PS 9.6 % unemployment.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 5:19:13 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Was the healthcare bill bi-partisan?

Was the healthcare bill read by members before the vote?

Was procedure followed or bastardized to simply pass this bill?

How many waivers to this “wonderful” legislation have been handed out to SUPPORTERS of the Democrats?

But, I guess these are “childish” questions.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 5:22:10 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s see, not a tantrum when Reid/Pelosi rams it through, tantrum when the repeal vote is bigger than the aye vote.

Nope, no bias here.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 5:26:03 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ridicule. Belittle. Diminish.

Alinsky 101. These Leftists haven’t received the memo that the American people are onto their rhetoric. It took a few decades but now We, the People, are becoming more aware of the hard-Left bias of Big Media. Finally.


17 posted on 01/21/2011 5:27:56 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Judging by the last election, it isn’t just a handful of bitter GOP types that want this bill killed. It increases government, taxes, spending, and healthcare costs for working men and women. Most Americans aren’t too keen on any of that contrary to what the democrats think.


18 posted on 01/21/2011 5:28:52 AM PST by RC one (What!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats sacrifice the country to their party agenda. When the Republicans object, the Democrats tell everybody the Republicans are sacrificing the country to their party agenda.

Psychologists call this “projection”

Democrats call it winning.

Republicans call it lying.


19 posted on 01/21/2011 5:30:44 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is no substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

we’ve seen who got the spanking.


20 posted on 01/21/2011 5:32:49 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I read the headline, glanced at the article, saw nothing but ad hominem, and stopped reading.

The Left really has nothing in the way of rational arguments.


22 posted on 01/21/2011 5:34:02 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What part of being 14 trillion in debt do they not understand?


23 posted on 01/21/2011 5:35:04 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“The healthcare reform law, while imperfect, is a done deal. The prudent thing to do at this point is to build on it rather than waste time with fruitless — and needlessly divisive — political grandstanding.”

Imperfect? The new euphemism for UnConstitutional, I guess.

Done deal? Hardly; and only in the minds of the leftists.

Build on it? And abet the criminal socialists in their mad march to marxism and the destruction of this grand experiment? I don’t think so.

Divisive grandstanding? The new euphemism for standing up for Constitutional principles, it seems.

These gasbags need to be retired from public disservice.


24 posted on 01/21/2011 5:35:09 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

David Lazarus, Liberty is not childish you jackwagon.


25 posted on 01/21/2011 5:36:51 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Keep the truth out there!


26 posted on 01/21/2011 5:37:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lazarus (who has yet to be raised from the dead) would chide the colonists’ “childish opposition” to King George III.


27 posted on 01/21/2011 5:37:43 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: originalbuckeye
Ridicule. Belittle. Diminish. Alinsky 101.

Exactly. The Left makes it their job to define their opposition in fringe terms and if that doesn't shut them up they move on to character assassination.

28 posted on 01/21/2011 5:41:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Childish is demanding that others pay for your needs.

Childish is desiring to use the threat of deadly force to make them do so.

Childish is demanding that others do what you think is “right”, as in paying for the medical care/insurance of those you deem “needy”, without doing so yourself, voluntarily, first.


29 posted on 01/21/2011 5:43:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Anima Mundi

Deliberate provocation, that.


30 posted on 01/21/2011 5:44:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Someone once said, "Elections have consequences."

31 posted on 01/21/2011 5:44:02 AM PST by McGruff (If you are taking alot of flak you must be on target.)
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To: FreedomPoster
The Left really has nothing in the way of rational arguments.

And this is why they must use the power of the state to make sure the opposition's rational arguments are not heard.

32 posted on 01/21/2011 5:45:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

childish nazis!

childish racist uncivil nazis

Take your govt pain pills and die like good citizens


33 posted on 01/21/2011 5:46:35 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
"Transference" is the Democrats' primary political tool. Accuse the Right of the Left's exact behavior, then when they are called on their hypocrisy (which is rare enough given the MSM's blatant support), they simply say, "Well, it happens on both sides of the aisle." It cements their lies, and leaves them mostly unscathed, while placing most of the blame and mistrust on their opponents. It has worked quite well for many years, most especially because the Right does not get their message out to the "mushy middle" (those that aren't terribly involved politically, but still vote... which is the majority of voters).

Case in point: Few outside of the blogosphere can tell you what the Tea Party movement is actually for. Most just think it's Sarah Palin's personal political party. The vast majority would agree with its basic ideals (that the federal government should have less control and authority in our lives, and should not take as much form us in taxes). However, since the Right simply isn't doing much to get out that message, the Tea Party is instead mislabeled, smeared with homosexual epithets, and is left in virtual anonymity.

34 posted on 01/21/2011 5:46:51 AM PST by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The cockroaches at the putrid LA Times are looking for a place to hide.

Perhaps a kind Tea Party member can drop off a garbage can with a lid at the front door.


35 posted on 01/21/2011 5:52:32 AM PST by sergeantdave
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GOP's childish opposition to healthcare reform

An adult wrote this? The boy must be clueless.

36 posted on 01/21/2011 5:54:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (They're not going to shut me up! - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: McGruff

You’re so “mean spirited.”

LOL

We really need to make a list of all the words and phrases the left uses to label, demean and diminish their opposition ie enemies and let them roll off our backs.

We need to loudly gawfaw and bat these terms of “endearment” away as they get shriller. We need to get comfortable with getting slammed and not instinctively revert to being politically correct. We have to toughen up and put up our dukes without hesitation.


37 posted on 01/21/2011 6:02:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Were it democrats fighting the Repubs on a similarly controversial issue, the LA Slimes would term it “courageous.”

But because the GOPers in the House are actually doing the will of the PEOPLE... it’s “childish.”

LA Slimes, isn’t Friday your day to be trumpeting reconquista? Go do that instead.


38 posted on 01/21/2011 6:14:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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I wonder if this Punk-Ass Liberal B***h had the same attitude about funding for military operations in Iraq. Everyone knew that Bush would veto anything like that from the Democriminals— but that didn’t stop Pelousy.


39 posted on 01/21/2011 6:16:54 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's as if Southern lawmakers had tried to block or repeal the Civil Rights Act after it became law in 1964.

They didn't because they had the maturity to accept the new status quo and move on. Today's Republicans should take a lesson from them.

HUGE difference.

0bamaCare transfers rights and authority to the federal government, away from the medical community and the patient. Therein lies the difference between then and now.

40 posted on 01/21/2011 6:17:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Teacher317

Good point about people not knowing what the Tea Party stands for outside of how the Left portrays Sarah Palin.

One place to begin is to explain to family, friends and neighbors, that it isn’t any one group but an idea born of necessity and why Congress changed hands in 2010 and why all Americans who want their children and grandchildren to live a good life need to vote to remove Democrats locally, statewide and on the national scene.

Tell your family that the Tea Party is against higher taxes and redistribution of their money, and for the right to protect and defend themselves and their property.

Plant the seed of truth. It must be done. It’s uncomfortable for many because the Left has been very effective in saying that anyone who talks like that is a racist, a gun nut and a selfish SOB. People who know you, and who don’t see you that way, will stop and wonder and start asking questions. And the truth will grow and spread.

And there is nothing like the scorn and energy that will come from those who eventually understand that they have been played for fools.


41 posted on 01/21/2011 6:18:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: cranked
Is it “childish” for me to wish that the Los Angeles Times was 3-ply......so I could use it to wipe my ass daily?

Yes. You'll get greasy printer's ink all over your butt.

42 posted on 01/21/2011 6:26:03 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
At the Suntrade Institute we have regularly identified the Left as JUVENILES, those who need to force their agenda on others because they are not honest enough with themselves to actually produce something worthy of trade. Nancy Pelosi, or this author, David Lazarus, are no less than bawling babies who insist on imposition. Bawling babies. Extortion. The root of crime.

Exactly the opposite of a mature individual facing and living his own decisions, as in his own healthcare, or his own retirement, or his own career, or his own family responsibilities, or his own charity, or his own civilized behavior, etc. That being the burden of freedom.

The Left, how obvious is it?

With the help of this forum and many similar, "they" know many have now come to understand this; and in the nature of the Left, then incorporate and project back their very own malice in what is popularly known as "spin." Unfortunately it takes some intelligence, otherwise known as discrimination, to see it.

We have their number, but we're not sure enough voting Americans do also.

That is why conservatism must be clearly articulated.

Johnny Suntrade

43 posted on 01/21/2011 6:27:39 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[Article] Conservatives might have ideological differences with some aspects of the reform law. Those differences should be respected.

Yeah, we saw how you respect those differences already:

Aside from scurrilous talk of "death panels" and "socialized medicine," ......

What's "scurrilous" about talking about your death panels, Lizardboy, and the fact that you guys have been trying to sneak them into every bill for the last two years without anyone's noticing?

And since when is your idea of putting healthcare into the hands of the Chicago goons NOT "socialized medicine"? Your crowd is still screaming for "single payer".

And the Republicans have outdone themselves for misinforming the American people about what the reform law will and will not do.

How's that stack up to "pass the bill so we can find out what's in it"? Misinforming people like that?

44 posted on 01/21/2011 6:33:58 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What about the LAT’s childish opposition to hiring reporters who can actually report?


45 posted on 01/21/2011 6:36:01 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Dear David,


46 posted on 01/21/2011 6:39:15 AM PST by McGruff (If you are taking alot of flak you must be on target.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The upshot of this screed is that elected representatives have no business carrying the wishes of their constituents to the sacred halls of government. Just who do they think they are anyway? Lawmakers????


47 posted on 01/21/2011 6:40:16 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Don’t forget the talking point [LIE] that millions of people with pre-existing conditions are dropped or can’t get insurance.


48 posted on 01/21/2011 6:41:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: jnsun
That is why conservatism must be clearly articulated.

And defined because for decades now, the meaning of "conservative" has been turned on its head.

49 posted on 01/21/2011 6:44:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Doofer
The House funds things, right? If they don’t fund the thing it’s dead or am I wrong?

Correct. If the House defunds it, it goes away, whatever it is. That includes the entire Department of Energy if the House 'Pubbies decide to grow a backbone.

Also all the "czars", most of Obama's staff, and you name it.

50 posted on 01/21/2011 6:49:08 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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