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The New Light Bulbs Lose a Little Shine (The "Greens" and Libs destroying America)
wall street journal ^ | 1/19/2011 | By REBECCA SMITH

Posted on 01/22/2011 8:06:33 AM PST by tobyhill

California's utilities are spending $548 million over seven years to subsidize consumer purchases of compact fluorescent lamps. But the benefits are turning out to be less than expected.

One reason is that bulbs have gotten so cheap that Californians buy more than they need and sock them away for future use. Another reason is that the bulbs are burning out faster than expected.

California's experience is notable because energy experts have placed high hopes on compact fluorescent lamps. Often spiral-shaped, they screw into existing light sockets and offer energy savings of about 75% over traditional incandescent light bulbs.

Many nations are relying on them to help cut emissions from power plants and stretch electricity supplies further. The United Nations says 8% of global greenhouse-gas emissions are linked to lighting, and that adoption of compact fluorescent lights could cut pollution.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cfl; cfls; fluorescentlamps
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To: tobyhill

Thank goodness the politicians know what’s best for us.


21 posted on 01/22/2011 8:21:45 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: SERKIT

I just throw them in the trash.


22 posted on 01/22/2011 8:21:51 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: Da Coyote

Now that they burn out “faster than expected”, our landfills will be full of Mercury “faster than expected”.


23 posted on 01/22/2011 8:23:59 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Brilliant

I heard yesterday that the EPA is going to replace E10 Ethanol with E15. The only industries that will grow from that is Subsidized Corn Growers and Mechanics.


24 posted on 01/22/2011 8:28:12 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Blueflag; All

Wait...then convert.

I converted 15 years ago, figure I have saved about $2,000 over those years. I have had an occasional batch that burned out sooner than I expected, but have mostly found they last a long time. Now they have two kinds of light soft and warm and cool and bluish.


25 posted on 01/22/2011 8:30:37 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: tobyhill

I noticed in the store the other day - the package of toxic twisties that claims that the bulbs will last for eight years in large type on the front has fine print on the back which makes only a 4 year claim.

And I also noticed that the expensive LEDs that hyped how little power that they used make it very hard to find out how little light they put out. I figure a lot of folks are going to buy one of those expensive gadgets, be highly disappointed, and write them off.


26 posted on 01/22/2011 8:31:50 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Sacajaweau

The curly lightbulbs do not fit in many of our lamps and light fixtures—plus I sure don’t want to have to call out hazmat if I happen to break one.—But mostly, I just don’t like being told what I have to buy, and since this global warming nonsense is a bunch of hooey anyway, I don’t worry about that.

I am also stockpiling plastic bags of all sizes and other things I have heard about that might be snatched away by our ever more-nannystate gummit.


27 posted on 01/22/2011 8:32:55 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: tobyhill

We have one cfl that has been in a lamp that is used every night for 13 yrs. It is the only one that has lasted. The rest in our house burn out in less than 1 yr usually.


28 posted on 01/22/2011 8:33:24 AM PST by sheana
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To: tobyhill

Do folks see what many of us have been shouting to the rooftops about? These people are not “put on hold” nor stopped, nor defeated in the least. They continue to DICTATE how we should live every aspect of our lives. Their steamroller progresses unabated, crushing our (former) way of life.

For decades there has virtually been no push back of any magnitude against the green agenda, even today, large corporations continue to donate megabucks to their movement, including the petroleum industry. My guess is that they try to play nice-nice to stave off the inevitable, the destruction of their industry. So how’s that working out for you?? Notice the gas prices lately?

They run scared of these phony “scientist” who’s “science books” consists of slick magazines with beautiful photos with captions of lies and distortions, pushing their nihilistic agenda.

But the sheeple continue to nod their heads and follow the Pied Pipers of doom and gloom.


29 posted on 01/22/2011 8:33:34 AM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: tobyhill
I heard yesterday that the EPA is going to replace E10 Ethanol with E15.

Just starving a few more babies in Africa and Asia. But think of the money that Gore and Soros can make off of the change. What are a few dead babies when we can have welfare for billionaires?

30 posted on 01/22/2011 8:34:02 AM PST by PAR35
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To: basil

I just purchased 150, 100 watt incandescent bulbs.


31 posted on 01/22/2011 8:36:01 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: nickcarraway

Two options:

Select “Warm White” CFLs.

Try GE brand “Reveal” CFL.

The Reveal CFL is costly, and I haven’t tried it, but I’ve used incandescent Reveals for many years, with good results.


32 posted on 01/22/2011 8:36:01 AM PST by Stalwart
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To: Pontiac

So these lawmakers are threatening people’s mental health? Will you be able to get prescription from a doctor for natural light incandescents?


33 posted on 01/22/2011 8:40:20 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: tobyhill

I use the most energy saving device there is, the off switch.


34 posted on 01/22/2011 8:42:02 AM PST by SouthTexas (Is it time for tea yet?)
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To: tobyhill
I think concerned citizens of California should band together in a joint EPA lawsuit over the disasterously potential harm that could be caused to the environment, public health and personal safety of children in California.

An enterprising coordinator (make that a conservative 'community organizer') can build a website, collect one dollar from California donators, and hire the biggest shyster class-action suit lawyer firm in the business. They can literally bring the state government and the federalis to their knees if they handle the case with these MERCURY BULB BOMBs properly.

35 posted on 01/22/2011 8:42:38 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: tobyhill
I don't hate CFLs. What I hate is government mandates to use them. But I buy them when I find them (subsidized) for about $1 each. I'm also getting one “free” every time I buy a $5.99 Domino's pizza. The way I see it I am paying for them through my taxes and electric bill so I may as well.

It is true in my experience, they don't last the 5-7 years advertised. Now, if you buy new fixtures that are made for the more expensive and better quality plug in CFLs, those last a very long time. I could not get an incandescent or a curly CFL to last more than 6 months in my weather exposed front porch light. I replaced it with a CFL fixture (with adjustable light and motion sensor and tube, less than $20). It has been going without any problems for almost ten years.

36 posted on 01/22/2011 8:43:13 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: tobyhill
For those of you who don't want to save money and energy, stock up on all the incandescent light bulbs you want to. I don't think they should have been outlawed, but CFL’s are great. The mercury issue is a red herring.

“In 1901, an American inventor named Peter Cooper Hewitt developed the first successful fluorescent light bulb. His invention closely resembled the bulb as we know it today, with a sealed tube filled with low-pressure mercury.”
http://www.ehow.com/about_5089197_history-fluorescent-lighting.html

Regular fluorescent tubes, that we all live with have almost
TEN times the mercury of CFL’s. Have we been worried about the mercury from these bulbs? Has there been a procedure for cleaning up after breaking one of these?

Take a deep breath ...... Don't let the MSM or Gubmint get you in a tizzy. Check into EVERYTHING. They are LYING to you about EVERYTHING. You are being manipulated. CFLs are a good thing. Inc. bulbs are fine if you like them burning out every week and you like to waste money and energy. This is America. You can make poor decisions if you want to.

37 posted on 01/22/2011 8:43:39 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: basil
Is anyone but me stockpiling regular light bulbs?

I was, but they were all destroyed in a cabinet collapse. An accident not unlike how the guns of many FReepers sadly fall into lakes on boating trips.

(We will soon have to couch our words in this manner when the Green Police turn incandescent users into criminals)
38 posted on 01/22/2011 8:46:56 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SERKIT

What happens in the event of a major catastrophe, earthquake etc., when these bulbs are in shards all over the place?


39 posted on 01/22/2011 8:48:02 AM PST by surrey
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To: basil

“Is anyone but me stockpiling regular light bulbs?”

You can get incandescent light bulbs rated for 25,000 hours that are used by the hospitality industry. If you use them for an average of 7 hours a day they’ll burn out in just a little under 10 years and cost about a buck or less per bulb depending on how many you buy.

https://www.nathosp.com/product/25k19_c/standard_incandescent_light_bulbs

Once you stock up all you’ll have to do is watch out for the light bulb police who’ll be monitoring everyone who might be using those unauthorized, evil incandescents!


40 posted on 01/22/2011 8:48:41 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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