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Boxer to Introduce Common-Sense Concealed Firearms Act of 2011(Barf Alert)
yubanet.com ^ | 22 January, 2011 | Sen. Barbara Boxer's office

Posted on 01/24/2011 4:14:28 AM PST by marktwain

Washington, D.C. January 22, 2011 – U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) today announced that next week she will introduce the Common-Sense Concealed Firearms Act of 2011, which would require all states that allow residents to carry concealed weapons in public to have minimum standards for granting permits.

Senator Boxer said, "The tragic events in Tucson earlier this month are a reminder of why we need common-sense gun laws. This measure will establish reasonable permitting standards for Americans who wish to carry concealed firearms. According to a recent poll, more than 60 percent of respondents believe there should be a reasonable permitting process for those who wish to carry concealed firearms."

Senator Boxer's legislation would require all states that allow residents to carry concealed weapons to establish permitting processes that would include meaningful consultation with local law enforcement authorities to determine whether the permit applicant is worthy of the public trust and has shown good cause to carry a concealed firearm.

Currently, two states do not permit residents to carry concealed firearms, while three states, including Arizona, allow residents to carry concealed firearms in public without a permit. The other 45 states require residents to obtain permits to carry concealed firearms, but the majority of these states would not meet the standard set in this bill.

Senator Boxer plans to introduce the legislation when the Senate reconvenes next week.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; boxer; ca; ccw; constitution; democrats; donttreadonme; guncontrol; liberalfascism; reichstagfire; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: marktwain
meaningful consultation with local law enforcement authorities to determine whether the permit applicant is worthy of the public trust and has shown good cause to carry a concealed firearm.

Infringement by any other name is just as unconstitutional.

101 posted on 01/24/2011 10:52:39 AM PST by FourPeas (From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Ja 3:10)
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To: Travis McGee
“But nobody needs these high capacity massacre-makers.”

I wonder if they include police in their "nobody needs etc." category.

102 posted on 01/24/2011 10:57:26 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: sickoflibs

Those are good. I think you’ve somewhat missed the boat because yours actually have at least a thread of connection to the issues you raised. The Democrats often don’t.


103 posted on 01/24/2011 11:14:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

marktwain was complimenting Barbara Boxer, not being rude to her as you stated when you said, “Stupid is a compliment when you speak of Barbara Boxer.”


104 posted on 01/24/2011 11:20:16 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: from occupied ga; ExSoldier; Joe Brower

Of course not.

But the visual attack ads against RINOs will be too hard for them to resist. Any RINO who stands against a mag ban will be shown between Cho and Laughner as a psycho killer.

“Congressman Schmuck agrees with Cho and Laughner that anybody should be able to buy a 33 round magazine.”

WE’ll be lucky if we get to keep the mags past 10 rounds that we already own. New mags past 10 rounds will be illegal to make, buy or sell in just a few months. Bet on it.


105 posted on 01/24/2011 11:20:16 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: Travis McGee

Trav, are you now into manufacturing hi-cap mags and trying to get a buying frenzy started? I’ll take a case.


106 posted on 01/24/2011 11:27:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: DoughtyOne
RE :”Those are good. I think you’ve somewhat missed the boat because yours actually have at least a thread of connection to the issues you raised. The Democrats often don’t.”

Politically you always need a thread of truth in everything thrown out. Take “The affordable health care act”. Well, it's related to health care isnt it? maybe just not affordable.

107 posted on 01/24/2011 11:31:18 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: marktwain
and has shown good cause to carry a concealed firearm.

This ploy has been used by hundreds of anti-gun chiefs of police in MA to deny issuing any CCWs.

108 posted on 01/24/2011 12:19:24 PM PST by pabianice
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To: DoughtyOne; NFHale

” The RNC vision of rapid response is to defer until the next election cycle, and tell us what masterful plans they have if only we’ll support them. Then, after we do, NOTHING, again! “

EXACTLY!


109 posted on 01/24/2011 12:25:32 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: marktwain

Reasonable? It’s pretty unreasonable in Nebraska already if you ask me. $175.00 for the mandated class to teach what any idiot should know about guns, plus another $100.00 to apply for permit.


110 posted on 01/24/2011 1:05:11 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: B4Ranch

Nope, got all I need. But I think the grabboids will be smarter this time, and pick off mags, and not go for a big AWB type bill. They’ll peel off high cap mags, with no sunset, and they’ll do it with RINO votes. Our brave RINOs will not be stand being compared to Cho and Loughner, photo by photo. I think this is 100% certain. RINOs who vote against the mags will say, “We’re not coming after your gun! (Just those evil massacre making mags.)”


111 posted on 01/24/2011 3:38:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: basil
I think Mr. Loughtner DID have a conceal carry permit.

Oh no seriously?? That's not good...

112 posted on 01/24/2011 4:08:52 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: CAluvdubya
Negative on the CCW permit for Loughner. Arizona has recently gone to universal carry. That means anyone over the age of 21, without a criminal record or other disabling reason, may carry concealed or open, their choice, without permit.

Those who wish to get a permit may still go through the classes, and be eligible for reciprocal carry permits in other states.

Loughner had not gone the permit route.

113 posted on 01/24/2011 4:20:19 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude
Thanks for the info.

I wish we had a universal carry. Will never happen here in Cali.

114 posted on 01/24/2011 4:37:30 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: The Comedian
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

http://tucsonwomenscenter.com/services/family_planning/medical_abortion.htm

115 posted on 01/24/2011 4:53:46 PM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Travis McGee

The way I see it, CCW’s is an attempt at national registration. Do not surrender your prohibited hi-cap mags. Disassemble them. Spread the parts and pieces through out the house and property. Get them out of the safe or gun closet.


116 posted on 01/24/2011 5:15:05 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

I don’t know if they’ll go for a total ban including existing mags. It would be much easier to pass a bill outlawing new manufacture, import, buying selling etc.

If they tried to outlaw possession, including the ones we own, they’d be creating millions of well-armed felons overnight. They might not want to take that step.

Or, they might.


117 posted on 01/24/2011 5:24:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: B4Ranch; marktwain
Now I'm even more confused. I think you are reading something into my comment that simply isn't there.

I was originally commenting on what the Article said, not what marktwain said. I could only respond to post #1.

The horse is dead, so let's stop beating it.

118 posted on 01/24/2011 6:51:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Travis McGee
“But “high cap” mags over 10 rounds will be banned by 2012 and forever after. Count on it.”

I think you are a bit over pessimistic. How about a friendly wager? If such a bill passes by 1 January, 2012, I will buy a case of your new book, Castigo Cay. If it doesn't, you ship me a case of autographed copies for free.

Seems like a win-win to me. We could have B4Ranch or another prominent freeper judge who wins.

119 posted on 01/24/2011 7:17:14 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Forty-Niner

while three states, including Arizona, allow residents to carry concealed firearms in public without a permit.


120 posted on 01/24/2011 7:28:18 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: CholeraJoe
Most states require fingerprints, but about 10% do not. I don't believe fingerprints can be shown to be cost effective.

The key to Boxer's “common sense” legislation is that it forces all states to institute a may issue system in order to carry a concealed weapon. This gives some police chief or sheriff the ability to deny you a permit by whim, and plenty of incentive (because of perceived liability) to deny it. Most people who are given this authority do not have the fortitude to grant permits to any law abiding citizen, and they end up granting them only to well connected people and cronies.

121 posted on 01/24/2011 7:30:05 PM PST by marktwain
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To: BOBWADE

“while three states, including Arizona, allow residents to carry concealed firearms in public without a permit.”

More are coming. I predict that two more states will adopt Constitutional Carry by the end of 2011.


122 posted on 01/24/2011 7:32:18 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Sounds good to me. Let’s just refine the terms of the hypothetical bill.


123 posted on 01/25/2011 6:45:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: marktwain
Common sense is that when a gunman WITHOUT a concealed carry permit guns down people and was stopped by a citizen WITH a concealed carry permit - we restrict concealed carry permits?

In what Bizarro world is THAT “common sense”.

It is hard to do parody anymore.

124 posted on 01/25/2011 6:49:37 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Dead Corpse

“I already have a Federal Permit to carry...”
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

Nice, I have a natural right to bear arms granted to me by my Creator, in addition to the ‘Federal Permit’ that recognizes this right. ;)


125 posted on 01/25/2011 6:51:58 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: marktwain

Shouldn’t someone ping the mod?

Boxer and common sense should not be used in the same sentence.


126 posted on 01/25/2011 7:47:42 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: Travis McGee; B4Ranch
Travis posted:

“But “high cap” mags over 10 rounds will be banned by 2012 and forever after. Count on it.”

Marktwain replied:

“I think you are a bit over pessimistic. How about a friendly wager? If such a bill passes by 1 January, 2012, I will buy a case of your new book, Castigo Cay. If it doesn't, you ship me a case of autographed copies for free.

Seems like a win-win to me. We could have B4Ranch or another prominent freeper judge who wins. “

Travis responded:

“Sounds good to me. Let’s just refine the terms of the hypothetical bill.”

Marktwain replies:

I think the criteria is if future sales of magazines of more than 10 rounds are banned to citizens other than government agents after 1 January, 2010, in a bill passed by the Federal government, and signed into law. Is that what you meant?

I included all of the above for B4Ranch, and so we can refer to it in the future without going to multiple posts.

127 posted on 01/25/2011 5:26:17 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Travis McGee
They will use Tucson to ban magazines holding more than 10 rounds, and that law will pass, count on it. And it won’t have a sunset.

I don't think they can get it through Congress.

128 posted on 01/25/2011 6:35:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: marktwain
I think the criteria is if future sales of magazines of more than 10 rounds are banned to citizens other than government agents after 1 January, 2010, in a bill passed by the Federal government, and signed into law. Is that what you meant?

After 2012, not 2010. Future sales of new magazines. The law might not go into effect on Jan 1, but it will be passed before then.

129 posted on 01/25/2011 8:07:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: Lazamataz

The Rats will find 50 RINOs who will not want their photo between Cho and Loughner on the MSM and Rat ads.

“Congressman Smith thinks that maniacs should have 33 round massacre magazines for their Glocks. He is voting against the ‘Gabby Gifford Gun Safety Act To Keep Massacre-Maker Magazines From Maniacs law’. Call Congressman Smith, and ask him why he thinks madmen should be able to kill 33 innocent victims as fast as they can pull the trigger on their pistols. Tell Congressman Smith that responsible sportsmen don’t need 33 bullets to shoot a target, or defend themselves.”

At least 50 RINOs will not want that attack against them.

Even Dick “Shotgun” Cheney says “we don’t need them.”


130 posted on 01/25/2011 8:15:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: marktwain

Also: for pistols, not necessarily pistols and rifles.


131 posted on 01/25/2011 8:18:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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