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Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
WorldNet Daily ^ | January 25, 2011 7:42 pm Eastern | By Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/25/2011 7:30:08 PM PST by Texas Fossil

It could be a game-changer.

A plan in Arizona to require presidential candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is approaching critical mass, even though it has just been introduced.

The proposal from state Rep. Judy Burges, who carried a similar plan that fell short last year only because of political maneuvering, was introduced yesterday with 16 members of the state Senate as co-sponsors.

It needs only 16 votes in the Senate to pass.

In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn't wish to be listed as co-sponsors.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; certifigate; election; eligibility; gamechanger; kansas; kriskobach; missouri; sambrownback
The can of worms is opening. Sounds like several of the states intend to prohibit a repeat of the eligibility fraud.

AZ, PA, MT, GA and TX.

Bring it ON!

1 posted on 01/25/2011 7:30:09 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I can only hope that Kansas will pas this as we are dominated by the GOP in every state office these days. I can only hope that our Secretary of State Kris Kobach and our Gov Sam Brownback gets this passed very fast.

Missouri has a Republican House and Senate but a Rat party Gov. I am sure Jay Nixon would hate to sign and possible can veto a bill. I am not sure but I bet it gets passed in Missouri but not signed.


2 posted on 01/25/2011 7:40:35 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Hee Hee! Over on The Drudge Report the link says

“Obama will ‘have to produce birth certificate’ to run again... “


3 posted on 01/25/2011 7:41:57 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Texas Fossil

“To pass” isn’t the same as “has passed.” Enough with the delay tactics, get it passed already. Once the first state demands it the rest will quickly follow suit.


4 posted on 01/25/2011 7:45:36 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Texas Fossil

Wow, imagine the egg all over the faces in the democrat party if O-Blunder cannot prove his citizenship. It could end up a bloody mess but it would be well worth it.


5 posted on 01/25/2011 7:46:37 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Bullish

Pass it now
Dare to be bold
Worst that can happen?
Dead RATS in the road!


6 posted on 01/25/2011 8:00:23 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: Texas Fossil
It's a good start.

This will keep that green card guy from running in this state.

But it probably wouldn't stop Obama, because:


7 posted on 01/25/2011 8:01:37 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Texas Fossil

Arizex


8 posted on 01/25/2011 8:03:55 PM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Texas Fossil

While I am all for the idea, I am not very optimistic
that it will keep Obozo from running.
The rats will find some loophole to keep him on the ballot.

I am more worried about there even being an election, or even an America as we knew it.


9 posted on 01/25/2011 8:04:11 PM PST by AlexW
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To: bgill
Once the first state demands it

One is really all that's needed. Imagine Obama not running in one state that has passed this law. It would be an admission that he is not a natural born citizen and he's dead meat.

Just one more reason I believe Obama will choose not to run again. Then bring on Hillary vs. Sarah!

10 posted on 01/25/2011 8:06:48 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: AlexW
The rats will find some loophole to keep him on the ballot.

The Constitution is pretty clear on the issue - I am confident the States would have standing to elevate any loophole the RATS produce all the way to SCOTUS and they would have to become involved.
11 posted on 01/25/2011 8:07:46 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: DannyTN
* it doesn't define what an acceptable document is

* what Natural Born means

* Or require confirmation of the documents with the issuing state.

As I read it, it makes the Secretary of State responsible for verifying that the candidate is eligible. Why does that have to be defined, before the lawsuits. Publicity?? That would be damaging to the candidate. This could work.

12 posted on 01/25/2011 8:13:00 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: DannyTN

Consequently it’s up to the election official and they could very well accept Obama’s internet certificate as valid.

Umm I don’t think this time around anyone will accept anything from Obama other than a SCOTUS desicion sayfing he is an NBC. At least not if they want to continue living in Arizona...


13 posted on 01/25/2011 8:16:36 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Texas Fossil

Good. I was wondering if there were states other than AZ with huge republican majorities that were passing similar laws.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 8:17:34 PM PST by aquila48
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To: rolling_stone

Ps if each state denied a candidate saying they were not NBC the SCOTUS might be forced into making a decision...hmmm..get Jindahl etc to run.


15 posted on 01/25/2011 8:18:11 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Texas Fossil

Wow, imagine the egg all over the faces in the democrat party if O-Blunder cannot prove his citizenship. It could end up a bloody mess but it would be well worth it.


16 posted on 01/25/2011 8:19:44 PM PST by Bullish
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To: rolling_stone
Umm I don’t think this time around anyone will accept anything from Obama other than a SCOTUS desicion sayfing he is an NBC. At least not if they want to continue living in Arizona...

That's wishful thinking. The AZ election officer/committee will look at it. And denying Obama on grounds he isn't a NBC will certainly cause a lawsuit. So they will accept his certificate, and leave it to other's to challenge. And then they won't be able to because they don't have standing.

17 posted on 01/25/2011 8:20:53 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Texas Fossil

The Feds will just sue us. That’s their MO and would be their third lawsuit against Arizona.


18 posted on 01/25/2011 8:22:30 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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To: Bullish
It could end up a bloody mess but it would be well worth it.

Whatever

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. ~Thomas Jefferson -The "Tree of Liberty" letter From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith -Paris, November 13, 1787

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/96oct/obrien/blood.htm

19 posted on 01/25/2011 8:28:25 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil; LucyT

http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-official-now-swears-no-obama-birth-certificate/


20 posted on 01/25/2011 8:29:53 PM PST by cutty
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To: ChocChipCookie
The Feds will just sue us.

They will try to sue Texas too. The EPA thing has already brought defiance from Governor "Rick". We shall see who WON.

There will come a point in the future when Treason Charges are taken as a serious action. It will come. They all took an oath to "protect and defend the Constitution", it is long past time for accountability.....

21 posted on 01/25/2011 8:32:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: cutty
Statements from officials in HI are all "legal weasel words". Words that confuse and convey no real meaning.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino

-Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

It did not say that there was a birth certificate, it said that there was a "record" of a birth certificate....

That record was most likely a result of a "late filing" by Obozo's grandmother, without presenting a birth certificate. There is no hospital record of his birth in HI (it is very unlikely he was born in HI). There is no record of Barrack H. Obama ever living with Stanley Ann Dunham in HI. The only way that Obama could be a Natural Born U.S. Citizen is if Barrack H. Obama, Sr is not his father.

Many have suggested that family friend Frank Marshall Davis was the father and that Barrack H. Obama only gave legitimacy to the birth. I am not convinced that Davis is his father, but it is possible. If Frank Marshall Davis is Obozo's father, he is a Natural Born U.S. Citizen and he is also a Commie B__tard! (just like "Commie" Frank Marshall Davis the admitted pedofile.)

Let's hope it is time for Exposure!

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There is NO long form Birth Certificate for BHO in HI. None... Look at the dance the authorities have been doing to avoid admitting it.

Here is the statement by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Health Department of the State of Hawaii:

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

(note- she said a "natural-born American citizen, NOT natural born United States Citizen.)

--

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Hawaii State Health Director, has issued a second statement Monday, July 27th confirming President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, HI.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

(Note- she said American citizen, not a United States Citizen)

I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago,” Fukino said, in hopes of ending the controversy surrounding Obama’s citizenship.

Nowhere did she say that she had seen the original "birth certificate"


22 posted on 01/25/2011 8:46:16 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I’m still looking for an explanation on why I had to produce as proof of eligibility my birth certificate for my SS card, my driver’s license, and so on...and any person thinks it’s unreasonable to ask a candidate for the same, when it’s not just a “law” or “statute”...it’s in the Constitution.

This is going to stick, it’s not going away, and it’s going to be messy.


23 posted on 01/25/2011 8:53:05 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
This is going to stick, it’s not going away, and it’s going to be messy.

Yep, it is....

With the "truth" all the pieces fit, with a "lie" they never do. When the "right people" decide it is time to end this, this lie will be exposed. And then the question will be: What fools put this "post turtle" where he is? And Trials for Treason?

24 posted on 01/25/2011 9:03:40 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: AlexW

I tend to agree.
However, if we can get this passed in a few states, it will to go to court. They will not be able to keep getting it dismissed, and discovery will have to happen.


25 posted on 01/25/2011 9:15:56 PM PST by kara37
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To: FrankR

Uhhh, is that the Devil’s Tower....in Wyoming???


26 posted on 01/25/2011 9:51:44 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Uhhh, is that the Devil’s Tower....in Wyoming???

Monument Valley. In Arizona...

27 posted on 01/25/2011 9:58:05 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Well knock me over with a feather!!! After doing some looking around at pics of Monument Valley, my guess is Merrick Butte? Seems like I saw one description of these being sandstone buttes whereas Devil’s Tower, and others in its area are igneous intrustions. Similar in appearance eh?


28 posted on 01/25/2011 10:34:49 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Graybeard58
Then bring on Hillary vs. Sarah!

Please, no. Alaska thought it had it's share of bad press and law suits with wacky libs but they ain't seen nuthin' yet if Sarah is put up against the Hildebeast. Hill knows this is her last shot at the oval office and she'll pull out the big guns. She'll also play the wounded ex first lady who the meanie Obama supporters tossed aside when could have saved the country. It won't be pretty with her gnashing teeth at both sides of the aisle.

Alaska should be kissing the ground Sarah walks on. Have you seen the countless number of new tv shows about Alaskans? They're getting in the $ while it's good and it's all thanks to Sarah. There's a survival show, a couple of hunting shows, a couple of airline shows, a gold mining one, etc. Of course, there's Ice Road Truckers but they started out in Canada and moved location to Alaska in '09.

29 posted on 01/25/2011 10:53:45 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Texas Fossil

Arizona law will last as long as it takes the dummycrats to find a liberal federal judge to find it unconstitutional.


30 posted on 01/26/2011 12:36:59 AM PST by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: Graybeard58

“Then bring on Hillary vs. Sarah!”

To hear the media these days, Sarah is dead in the water.
No chance as she has too much baggage. So starts the drum beat to discredit her.


31 posted on 01/26/2011 5:17:34 AM PST by Flyover Country ("Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie??")
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To: ForGod'sSake

If it is, the Google Images labeled it wrong...


32 posted on 01/26/2011 5:46:06 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Graybeard58

One is really all that’s needed. Imagine Obama not running in one state that has passed this law. It would be an admission that he is not a natural born citizen and he’s dead meat.


Which is why the 2008 OCON is so critical. Can you imagine Obama not being able to get on the ballot in Hawaii in 2008 because he did not meet the constitutional requirements.

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/01/o-con-had-legal-help-from-non-partisan.html


33 posted on 01/26/2011 5:54:09 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Texas Fossil
In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn't wish to be listed as co-sponsors.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am including this specific bill in my prayers. May God save this nation.

34 posted on 01/26/2011 6:00:20 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: Texas Fossil

I live in Iowa, we have the first Presidential vote, I think this is a great idea!!!

I am going to work hard to get this established here because BHO once again will have to come through here.


35 posted on 01/26/2011 6:07:43 AM PST by PORD (People Of Right & Duty!)
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

The Constitution says that the legislatures of the states determine how the electors are apportioned.

Of course, we’ve seen liberal judges rule that specific provisions on the Constitution were unconstitutional. Go figure.


36 posted on 01/26/2011 6:17:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: PORD

I really can’t fathom how anyone could come up with a legitimate oppositional argument to establishing the eligibility of candidates before they are allowed on the ballot.

We know what the underlying reason would be - specifically 0bama’s re-election. But what could they really say was illegitimate about verification?


37 posted on 01/26/2011 6:19:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: FrankR
If it is, the Google Images labeled it wrong...

You're right; it's one of the buttes of Monument Valley in AZ. I was enlightened by okie01 in #27.

38 posted on 01/26/2011 9:05:36 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: FrankR

Yes, Arizona is doing a lot of things right. Why do they keep electing that putz McCain though?


39 posted on 01/26/2011 9:19:19 AM PST by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: KevinB

That’s true, but everytime I buy a can of peanuts, there’s always one in the can that has a weird taste. I guess it’s the old 80/20 rule.


40 posted on 01/26/2011 9:21:57 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: FrankR
That’s true, but everytime I buy a can of peanuts, there’s always one in the can that has a weird taste.

Yeah, but don't you then spit it out? LOL

41 posted on 01/26/2011 9:32:41 AM PST by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: KevinB
"Yeah, but don't you then spit it out? LOL "

I do spit them out, but I have met people who think those are the best ones in the can...go figure.
42 posted on 01/26/2011 10:12:32 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Texas Fossil

“B. The affidavit prescribed in subsection A shall include references to and attachment of all of the following, which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury:

1. An original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance.

2. A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate’s allegiance is solely to the United States of America.

3. A sworn statement or form that identifies the candidate’s places of residence in the United States for the preceding fourteen years.

C. If both the candidate and the national political party committee for that candidate fail to submit and swear to the documents prescribed in this section, the secretary of state shall not place that presidential candidate’s name on the ballot in this state. “

Does anyone know if long form birth certificates are available from all states? I was born in Duluth, Minnesota, but all I have is the certificate they send if you ask - and it is NOT a long form.


43 posted on 01/26/2011 10:19:50 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: Texas Fossil

The point to remember is that he could well have been born in Kenya and his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, could have forged his mother’s name on a non-hospital birth certificate and filed it, making the Illegal a magic American. That’s true because, then and now, HI law allows either parent of a child that’s not born in a bithing center simply to obtain a Certificate of Live Birth form, fill it out, and have it be as valid as a properly completed hospital Certificate of Live Birth. If his BC were such a forgery, as I believe it was, that would also explain the allegedly contemporaneous birth announcements that were published in the major HI newspapers, since, based on the fraudulent BC, the HI Department of Health would have simply and duly forwarded his name to the papers for publication.


44 posted on 01/26/2011 1:17:23 PM PST by libstripper (uite eff)
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