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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE

Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

HONOLULU (AP) -- Five Hawaii Democratic representatives want to pass a law making President Barack Obama's birth records public and charge $100 to see them.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; barry; bc; birthcertificate; birthers; czarhussien; eligibility; hawaii; hawii; kenyanvillageidiot; naturalborncitizen; obama; postotus; soetoro; ultimateconartist
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To: bvw

We know Obama Sr. was not a US citizen.


201 posted on 01/27/2011 6:56:37 PM PST by surrey
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To: GlockThe Vote; Ladysforest

The newspaper announcements were forged. There is evidence that the microfilms have been changed out at least once in each library listed as having those dates (except one which we didn’t check).

The images that appeared online could not have come from the Hawaii State Library as was claimed because the condition of those microfilm pages at the HSL doesn’t match that of the images. For instance, the HSL’s Advertiser microfilm is almost unreadable because of usage (and actually because of poor microfilming, which immediately says the microfilming was not professionally done as would be done for a library) - but the online image is nearly pristine. Conversely, the online Star-Bulletin image has a large “scratch” on it, but the HSL’s Star-Bulletin microfilm for that day was pristine. IOW, a very prominent scratch disappeared over time. That is true in other libraries too.

The paper copies that the librarian at the Univ of CA - Berkeley made from the microfilms show different marks on the full-page view than on the supposed close-ups of that page. That happened with the copies given to 2 different people independently.

And there’s other stuff too. So there is a bunch of forensic evidence that the announcements are forged. When I have the chance to concentrate on that I’m planning to do a major post on it. It takes a lot of analysis - more than most casual observers would probably follow.

Ladysforest has done a lot of research on this, invested a lot towards getting answers, done an excellent job of putting information together, and has posted about it in various posts at her blog, http://www.myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com .

Out of curiosity, do you think there are very many others who recognize the discrepancies and problems with Obama’s refusal to show his birth certificate but who are holding onto the forged birth announcements as the reason to justify believing the official story?

Right now I’m working as hard as I can on getting state eligibility bills on the table, since that is where we’re actually going to see results. With the recent events raising questions in a lot of minds, if getting the info out about the forged birth announcements would settle the issue for a lot of people, this might be a good time to do that also if I can pull it together. But I don’t want to let up on the eligibility bills at all either.

Any thoughts? Anybody?


202 posted on 01/27/2011 7:03:39 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Great post. Thank you, I’m sending to others!


203 posted on 01/27/2011 7:06:56 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: butterdezillion

Great post. Thank you, I’m sending to others!


204 posted on 01/27/2011 7:06:59 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: butterdezillion

Great post. Thank you, I’m sending to others!


205 posted on 01/27/2011 7:08:06 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: butterdezillion

I wrote the gag notice, to highlight just how absurd this birth certificate situation has become.


206 posted on 01/27/2011 7:09:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Texas Fossil

They need to look for Barry DUNHAM

It has been tried, it’s not there either.


Barry Little (Father Malcolm)


207 posted on 01/27/2011 7:16:11 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for clarifying. I’ve got so much stuff floating around in my head right now, I’m a little slow in processing. lol

The stuff that’s been happening is surreal. Sometimes I wonder when I’m going to wake up from this nightmare.


208 posted on 01/27/2011 7:17:04 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Pigsley

I don’t know where it came from originally, but I’ve seen it posted here on FR Eligibility threads multiple times.Barack Hussein Obama Jr. isn’t on it either.


209 posted on 01/27/2011 7:21:17 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Pigsley

Also, it is documented that he went by Barry Soetero at Occidental...Just makes sense to me. If he just started calling himself BO II when transitioning to “keeping it real” African American man at Columbia...but didn’t do a records change? Well...the BC would still be under Barry Soetero.


We know that Barack Obama has used multiple SSNs. What about Barry Soetoro. Is there some record available showing any/all SSNs that are associated with that name?


210 posted on 01/27/2011 7:24:12 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion
When the fake BC comes out, all of the doctors, witnesses, nurses, sponsors and parents will be found to be dead.
211 posted on 01/27/2011 7:24:27 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I agree that there is so much about Barry we don’t yet know. One thing we do know, however, is that he is mentally screwed up beyond belief. He has a bona fide messianic complex, and no accomplishments to back it up. Everything he’s gotten, he’s gotten through cheating or playing the race card. His narcissism is epic. Without the 24/7 support of the knee-pad press he would be a laughingstock. He’s that in the rest of the world already; it’s just here, where all his gaffes, blunders and ignorance are swept under the rug, that he has any remaining respect at all.


212 posted on 01/27/2011 7:27:29 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: tractorman

When the fake BC comes out, all of the doctors, witnesses, nurses, sponsors and parents will be found to be dead.


Of natural causes no doubt...


213 posted on 01/27/2011 7:28:10 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion

No problem. I’d like to wake up too.

Take care.


214 posted on 01/27/2011 7:29:18 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

or multiple gunshot suicide wounds.


215 posted on 01/27/2011 7:31:23 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

or multiple gunshot suicide wounds.


216 posted on 01/27/2011 7:31:59 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: butterdezillion

Butter. Excellent post. Looking forward to your future post on the newspaper announcements analyses


217 posted on 01/27/2011 7:33:12 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: butterdezillion; GlockThe Vote; Ladysforest
Out of curiosity, do you think there are very many others who recognize the discrepancies and problems with Obama’s refusal to show his birth certificate but who are holding onto the forged birth announcements as the reason to justify believing the official story?

I've run into at least one person who hangs his belief in BO's "natural born" status and Constitutional eligibility on that "birth announcement" (as well as the *.jpg posted on the Internet).

Ladysforest, you have done awesome work on the microfilm analysis.

218 posted on 01/27/2011 7:45:22 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont; Ladysforest

Ditto on ladysforest’s awesome work. And most people have no idea what she’s invested for this either. She is a patriot of great honor, as are the people who have quietly helped her without anybody even knowing who they are. They know who they are, and I just want to give them kudos for all they do and for being the honorable people that they are.

Ladysforest, here’s to you. =)


219 posted on 01/27/2011 7:54:51 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: GlockThe Vote

Great, and thanks. The more people realize the evidence we have, the better. The trick is getting it online in such a way that it can be verified the images haven’t been manipulated in any way. I don’t know; maybe I’m just being paranoid. Hopefully I can get the images and analysis up soon.


220 posted on 01/27/2011 7:58:22 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Perhaps that bill could include that all school admission records and student transcripts be made public as well. They are applying for a job and many employers want to see these items, so why shouldn”t we?


221 posted on 01/27/2011 8:01:40 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Flamenco Lady

Some of us had talked about that in a thread where I had asked for input. The thought was that we didn’t want it to appear as a wild goosechase.

I do personally suspect that he went to Occidental as a foreign student and then switched over as if he was a US citizen when he went to Columbia - that he switched identities from Barry Soetoro the Indonesian to Barack Hussen Obama II the American. But if he did do that it should show up in the genuine citizenship records so that base should be covered that way, and there would be no question that the documentation was related to the eligibility requirements actually stated in the Constitution.

Maybe after the documents come out and we see what all has been forged there will actually be a criminal investigation that will also look at the other things we’ve all been wondering about. =)


222 posted on 01/27/2011 8:10:37 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; All

For those that think that splice microfilm is a task that could not be done within a library. Just look at the device used to do it. It is small, it uses no ‘consumables’. Cut, insert, weld the film back together using a relatively small device.

http://www.microfilm.com/php/display.php?ItemID=261

- No Special Installation
Portable...just plug in...2amps, 50-60 Hz. Multi-voltage input transformer (100-240V) included as standard on all models.


223 posted on 01/27/2011 8:18:23 PM PST by bluecat6
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To: GlockThe Vote

How’s this...In the 1950’s and 60’s grandparents or other relatives often called their local newspapers requesting that their new grandchild be announced in the newspaper when they had been born in another place, so their friends would all see the announcement.

The Hawaiian paper did say that they only announced births reported to them from the Health Department, however, I would question whether anyone at the newspaper really knows what the policy was 50 years ago. Even in banking where they have policy manuals for everything it would be difficult to locate what a specific policy was 50 years previously since the policy manuals would have likely been disposed of many years before.


224 posted on 01/27/2011 8:24:02 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks, that makes sense. I also suspect he applied as a foreign college student.


225 posted on 01/27/2011 8:36:05 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: Flamenco Lady
The Hawaiian paper did say that they only announced births reported to them from the Health Department, however, I would question whether anyone at the newspaper really knows what the policy was 50 years ago. Even in banking where they have policy manuals for everything it would be difficult to locate what a specific policy was 50 years previously since the policy manuals would have likely been disposed of many years before.

I remember reading a long, long time ago on FR that someone contacted the newspaper/s in Honolulu and whoever talked to them from the newspaper (don't know if they contacted both - I think they are owned by the same company) said that they did not know the policy in 1961. Maybe the newspaper/s changed the story now. Anyway, the policy then could not have been printing info from the DoH because each paprt had different lists.

226 posted on 01/27/2011 8:59:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Flamenco Lady

How’s this...In the 1950’s and 60’s grandparents or other relatives often called their local newspapers requesting that their new grandchild be announced in the newspaper when they had been born in another place, so their friends would all see the announcement.

The Hawaiian paper did say that they only announced births reported to them from the Health Department, however, I would question whether anyone at the newspaper really knows what the policy was 50 years ago. Even in banking where they have policy manuals for everything it would be difficult to locate what a specific policy was 50 years previously since the policy manuals would have likely been disposed of many years before.


For the Honolulu Advertiser of August 13, 1961, the Obama birth announcement is in a section of the newspaper entitled “Health Bureau Statistics.” It is not a section called “Birth Announcements.” That section also lists marriages and deaths.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif


227 posted on 01/27/2011 9:29:36 PM PST by jamese777
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To: madison10

Washington, DC was laid out and has laws to this day so that nothing in the city can be above the visual sight of the Washington Monument. It was to, and does, dominate the DC skyline. There’s a 13 story limit on buildings in the city to carry out that rule.

I anticipate all the rules, laws and history will be cast aside when they plan the Obama Monument.


228 posted on 01/27/2011 9:35:09 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Nipfan

bump for later


229 posted on 01/27/2011 9:43:46 PM PST by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: jamese777

Yes, the header is “Health Bureau Statistics”.

Here is the direct link to the research post. The links for subsequent posts are in that post also, it is a bit of a long read, but interesting:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/extra-extra-announcing-obamas-birth/


230 posted on 01/27/2011 9:51:01 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: freekitty

Have we heard from him?


231 posted on 01/27/2011 10:49:56 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

I think if memory serves me he is staying out of everything. :)


232 posted on 01/27/2011 11:28:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

He doesn’t want to have an “accident”, probably.


233 posted on 01/27/2011 11:32:41 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: butterdezillion
" These crooks in Hawaii are looking to make a fast buck off of their governor and HDOH’s criminality. Sick. "

Would that prompt RICO investigations ?
234 posted on 01/28/2011 12:27:23 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion
SS Luline departing the dock Hawaii circa 1960 Photobucket Photobucket
235 posted on 01/28/2011 2:06:09 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Correction SS Lurline


236 posted on 01/28/2011 2:09:48 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am confused. The article states Hawaai’s Health Director is calling for this, correct?

Jan 14, 2011-Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie announced the appointment of Dr. Neal Palafox

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/01/15/11/fil-am-doc-hawaii%E2%80%99s-health-chief

The Interim Director Neal A. Palafox, M.D has
removed his name.

Hawaii Gov. Abercrombie’s Health Director Quits
Interim Health Director Dr. Neal Palafox Resigns Amid Unconfirmed Reports of Probe into Billing Fraud

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/27/politics/main7288553.shtml

http://www.kitv.com/r/26633008/detail.html


237 posted on 01/28/2011 3:08:44 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Free ThinkerNY; 444Flyer; Jim Robinson; Nachum; STARWISE; DontTreadOnMe2009; mojitojoe; ...
Drudge Headline related article

5 Dem lawmakers in Hawaii want release of Obama birth info...

238 posted on 01/28/2011 3:15:09 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
My bad I thought I read that Hawaii’s Health Director started this inquiry. It was this person...

http://www.asianjournal.com/voice-of-fil-america/72-voice-of-fil-america/1256-rida-cabanilla-hawaii-state-rep-district-42.html

239 posted on 01/28/2011 3:34:35 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: F15Eagle
The article says they want to charge $100 for Obama birth records not Birth Certificate. --- I doubt if a long form BC exists.
240 posted on 01/28/2011 4:52:20 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ya know I was thinking....Winston Churchill’s mother was a natural born American… …of course his father was a Brit. and Winny was born in....Hawaii...yeah that’s the ticket Hawaii....now that means that the British Bulldog was really and American Pit Bull...and believe you me he would have made a better POTUS than socialist FDR any friggin’ day. And his superiority over our current POSOTUS is too huge to make an intelligent comparison.


241 posted on 01/28/2011 5:05:15 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: opentalk
The article says they want to charge $100 for Obama birth records not Birth Certificate. -—
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Good point!

These guys and gals are weasles with words.

242 posted on 01/28/2011 5:12:48 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: F15Eagle; wolfcreek

I heard Mike’s update today and he said he “misspoke” about the BC. I call bullshit on this entire deal. I’ll bet there has never been any long form BC.


243 posted on 01/28/2011 5:14:11 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Idiots keep the story in the MSM. True believers with no orders from the White Hut?


244 posted on 01/28/2011 5:14:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Mike Evans told 3 radio stations the same story

World Net Daily has it all on one page now

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=256365

I believe Mike Evans first story - Abercrombie told him there is no Long Form Birth Certificate for Obama.

The video is going viral - over 921,000 views. It could go over 1 million today. (you’ve already seen this video of course).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE

Mike Evans is scared of something. He had no qualms about saying this. Now he’s trying to pretend it didn’t happen; it was all a “misunderstanding”.


245 posted on 01/28/2011 5:30:31 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle

Mike Evans ‘misspoke’. The Obama code word for, ‘Oh bloody shite I said something I was not suppose to that someone spent loads of money covering up’.


246 posted on 01/28/2011 5:48:22 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: F15Eagle

He told over 30 stations that story. The article says 34, but I heard it was many more. Mike is probably scared because he got a call from the administration to STFU. As I said earlier, this stinks and I call it bullshit.


247 posted on 01/28/2011 6:02:41 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Barry Davis?


248 posted on 01/28/2011 6:11:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Here is a man who met Barack Obama – who told him he was born in Kenya !!! Read for yourself

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2664555/posts

Friday, January 28, 2011 9:12:22 AM · 44 of 44

Hotlanta Mike to RaceBannon

RB, can you take a look at some photos and these interview clips and say whether POPS you saw back in 1980 was this guy, Frank Marshall Davis?

Frank Marshall Davis Interview

Interview with notable African-American poet and journalist Frank Marshall Davis. Frank is mentioned in Barak Obamas “Dreams From My Father”, as a drinking buddy of his grandfather and an African American that made an impression on the now President as a young man growing up in Hawaii. The Film & Media Archive partnered with the Center for Labor Education and Research (CLEAR) at the University of Hawaii West Oahu to preserve the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C422SbjYHoU

West Oahu Preserves Frank Marshall Davis Interview

http://www.hawaii.edu/newsatuh/2009/10/west-oahu-preserves-frank-marshall-davis-interview/

Frank Marshall Davis - Rice & Roses Documentary (part 3/3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaWyyOUa3g&feature=related

http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/en-frank-marshall-davis6.jpg

http://library.wustl.edu/units/spec/filmandmedia/photos/fmd_family.jpg

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249 posted on 01/28/2011 6:20:38 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion
Like I've said before you are very smart.

I'm sticking with my description of the con. I'm glad you aren't up on con techniques, that's good. But for various reasons -- I am. What crystallized the two-step con for me were two recent things, one a recollection of a perfected con that cost a friend of mine -- who was used as the dupe in it -- his law license. The story of that con is retold here.

The sharpies in that one had a goal, but there was a legal impediment to that goal. They were missing one key piece. Or rather, that key piece was no going to allow the deal to go through. So they set up a distraction con. One that was risky, but they got away with it.

And then, in that same period of a few days, we have the clockers on the Obama team spinning up this new legend of "the father's foreign citizenship was never an issue before the election. Never. Period." They want to poison the issue of the father's foreign citizenship as a desperation toss, brought up too late, and that it's just racist reactionary desperation.

Why the new spin?

Simple, given the con model I proposed in the earlier post. The distraction part of the con is to keep the focus on where Obama was born!

250 posted on 01/28/2011 6:21:23 AM PST by bvw
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