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Breaking News & LIVE THREAD- Egypt and Middle East
Various on the internet | 28 January 2011

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:48 AM PST by SE Mom

From FOX:

DEVELOPING: Loud explosions and gunfire were heard in the Egyptian capital of Cairo Friday, as protesters demanding the removal of President Hosni Mubarak defied a curfew, Al Jazeera reported. Egyptian television reports the ruling party headquarters in Cairo are on fire.

From TWITTER:

WashingtonPost: Clinton: We urge #Egypt authorities to allow peaceful protest, reverse unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications less than 20 seconds ago


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There are so many threads and so much breaking news in the ME right now it seems we should keep it in one place to track.
1 posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:54 AM PST by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Biden said there’s nothing to be concerned about, and Clintoon is up there saying that Mubarak should let them protest. Make up your damn minds!

Our leaders, both here and abroad, are quaking in their boots. Popular uprising is coming, and it’s starting in the Mideast.


2 posted on 01/28/2011 9:16:29 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SE Mom

Hiya SE...I posted thebelow on another thread but I’ll paste here for more thought.


I’ve read up a bit on this and just listened to John Bolton, who I respect.

Lookit, I seriously understand that the alternative to Muburak, as it is currently being alleged, would be a more draconian regime called the Muslim Brotherhood.

However....Muburak’s been dictator of Egypt for 19 years now. He hasn’t done the country much good at all.

Maybe it’s the American in me, but I truly believe that all people just want to be free. Humans, no matter the religion, race or creed, want to live their lives, be with and raise their families, pursue their happiness, without some damn dictator/despot running their lives. Yes, I believe this.

Not long ago the poor Iranian people were out rioting as they too wanted freedom from the oppression by those sons of camels who so often take over these countries controlled by that oppressive religion, Islam.

I’m on the side of the Egyptian public on this one. I think a guy that’s been so corrupt, nasty and mean as Muburak for nineteen years, well I think it’s time for him to go.

And never mind, for just a minute here, that America might be better served with Muburak still in charge in that he’s “secular” and friendly with Israel. I don’t like dictators and the thought of being ruled by one for so many years just rubs me wrong.

If these Egyptians are sucessful at throwing over Muburak and they put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, effectly replacing one form of oppression with another, well then shame the hell on them.

But I can’t get beyond that this Muburak guy’s been around so long and it’s time for him to step down. Who wants to spend their lives dominated by some a**hole whose credentials are what, exactly?


3 posted on 01/28/2011 9:17:14 AM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Uncle Ike; Scythian; HollyB; STARWISE; onyx; Liz; maggief; penelopesire

Please post your links here so we can keep up..

Also- if anyone has Bahbah’s old Long War ping list- please freepmail me or Uncle Ike with it- I misplaced it.


4 posted on 01/28/2011 9:17:31 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

this is hugh and about to become series


5 posted on 01/28/2011 9:17:42 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: SE Mom

Let’s hope this spreads througout the middle east. This is what happens when one follows Obama’s lead and cozies up to Islamic nutjobs and moderates.

If we can see all middle eastern islamic majority countries begin to unravel we can see real chaos for the next several years.

Time for Obama the Messiah to step up and calm the world.


6 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:01 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: SE Mom

peaceful protests dont work in the middle east, they get squashed, the protestors get blackbagged and disappear, unfortunately against dictators you have to be violent and typical this all kicks off when we have the biggest pansy ass in the white house ever.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:05 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SE Mom
Al Jazeera live streaming video in English from Cairo
8 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:05 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: SE Mom

Live stream via al Jazeera English

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/


9 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: rarestia

Egypt is the second biggest recipient of US aid money. Geneva bankers are on alert.


10 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:20 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: SE Mom

I didn’t know that Egypt had a Tea Party.....


11 posted on 01/28/2011 9:19:12 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: SE Mom

Mondoweiss: RT @SherineT: Military arrives in Alexandria reports Rawya Rageh who is there on the scene #Egypt #Jan25

less than 10 seconds ago via Nambu brankobrkic: RT @BreakingNews: Thousands of protesters try to storm foreign ministry, state TV building in Cairo, defying curfew - AP #Egypt #Jan25
less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Egypt


12 posted on 01/28/2011 9:19:16 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks, Mom....

A “Live Thread” is just what we need - it’s ridiculous to have at least three separate threads started for each ‘breaking development’.....


13 posted on 01/28/2011 9:19:22 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Fishtalk

In Iran in 1979 most people were truly against the Shah and thought that overthrowing him would result in freedom and democracy. They were naive. Yes Mubarak is a pig, but those who are leading the overthrow are fooling the public into thinking they will bring freedom to Egypt.


14 posted on 01/28/2011 9:19:41 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: AdamBomb

Actually, Obama’s first two years were defined by domestic mismanagement, his next two could be defined by international problems stemming from his weak foreign policy...just like Jimmy carter!


15 posted on 01/28/2011 9:20:18 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Lessthantolerant

but Obama tried to calm them yesterday, and said “violence is never answer”.... ( our violence in WWII sure was the correct answer to Germany) ... but never mind..

if only those rioters in Egypt would just listen to Obama.


16 posted on 01/28/2011 9:21:08 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: t-dude

unexpected


17 posted on 01/28/2011 9:21:08 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: rarestia
Our leaders, both here and abroad, are quaking in their boots.

They have good reason to be. After all, THEY are the ones responisble for the economic collapse around the world. Ignoring the will of the people, trampling on human rights, etc,etc,etc.

But then again, every country deserves the government they have. Including us.

18 posted on 01/28/2011 9:21:17 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SE Mom

Good thinking. Pass the popcorn


19 posted on 01/28/2011 9:21:27 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: SE Mom

I am glad you posted this thread. This whole thing is freaking me out.


20 posted on 01/28/2011 9:21:38 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: Fishtalk

Just remember what happened in Iran. Do not for one minute make the mistake of thinking that the power behind these people wants democracy. That was the claim in Iran, too, and that didn’t work out well—for anyone.


21 posted on 01/28/2011 9:22:10 AM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: unixfox

I’m always quick to point out that the Civil War was NOT popular and fought by only 30% of the population at the time.


22 posted on 01/28/2011 9:22:24 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SE Mom
Good idea. I don't have access to Twitter or TV so this is about the only place I can get my news. Appreciate any tidbits.
23 posted on 01/28/2011 9:22:24 AM PST by McGruff (If you are catching alot of flak, you must be on target!)
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To: SE Mom

For your consideration a live demo of 'The Domino Effect'.
24 posted on 01/28/2011 9:22:24 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Uncle Ike

And then there’s this:

By Lin Noueihed Lin Noueihed – 22 mins ago
TUNIS (Reuters) – Islamists marched through central Tunis on Friday, demanding religious freedom, while police fired teargas at anti-government protesters who have camped out around the prime minister’s office.

The march by about 200 people was the first significant Islamist protest since the fall of president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, who ran a strictly secular state in which Islamists were often jailed or forced into exile.

Some carried placards reading: “We want freedom for the hijab, the niqab and the beard.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_tunisia;_ylt=AtSt4uFD_Gj7kNq71MICMkEUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTJvZmpkaDE2BGFzc2V0Ay9zL25tL3VzX3R1bmlzaWEEY2NvZGUDbXBfZWNfOF8xMARjcG9zAzcEcG9zAzcEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNpc2xhbWlzdHNtYXI-


25 posted on 01/28/2011 9:22:40 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

26 posted on 01/28/2011 9:23:45 AM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Let's make them stop.)
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To: SE Mom
Shades of Carter and the Shaw of Iran

Our Islamic Marxist in Chief has sat on his hands while Egypt, the Sudan and Tunisia fall apart to fundamentalists within a week

.

27 posted on 01/28/2011 9:23:49 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: TomGuy

From Aljazeera site:
“Unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control, Al Jazeera is no longer available via the broadband services Jalipo and VDC.”


28 posted on 01/28/2011 9:23:49 AM PST by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: SE Mom

al Jazeera report:

Military moving into Suez and Alexandria

Army being greeted with cheers and thumbs-up jestures.


29 posted on 01/28/2011 9:23:55 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Fishtalk

Mubarak isn’t a saint thats for sure.

From what I heard on Fox this morning the Muslim Brotherhood is behind these protests and the effort to overthrown Mubarak. They are muslim fundamentalists who have been using imams and the mosques to brainwash the younger population. Very similar to the method used in Iran to overthrow the Shah.


30 posted on 01/28/2011 9:24:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SE Mom

Mubarak is about to run like an Egyptian.


31 posted on 01/28/2011 9:24:58 AM PST by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: Chuzzlewit

I think he should fly over right now and walk the streets calming the people.

I’ll pay for the fuel.


32 posted on 01/28/2011 9:26:14 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: SE Mom

Good thinking, thanks SE Mom!


33 posted on 01/28/2011 9:26:21 AM PST by HollyB
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To: SE Mom

the muslim brotherhood is involved with these riots and if they take over then it is not good for Israel or us but I see the bozo the clown admin is quick to tell the Govt to stop and yet when those in Iran were up in arms there was crickets.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Seems bozo the clown has no problem with the muslim brotherhood doing riots but does have a problem with those in Iran wanting to get rid of an oppressive muslims Govt

and yet again our corrupt biased propaganda media covers for their messiah again


34 posted on 01/28/2011 9:26:21 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: TomGuy

35 posted on 01/28/2011 9:27:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: t-dude

” defined by international problems stemming from his weak foreign policy... “

OT - but, lest we succumb to tunnel-vision, we need to keep one eye on the Kims and NK - who just might see an opportunity for mischief during a growing Mideast Crisis....

And, then there’s always Nuclear-armed Pakistan, whose Government has gotten progressively more unstable, of late....

Could be a “Perfect Storm” a-brewin’.....


36 posted on 01/28/2011 9:27:46 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: elpinta
From Aljazeera site: “Unfortunately due to circumstances beyond our control, Al Jazeera is no longer available via the broadband services Jalipo and VDC.”

I am watching the live video stream as I type this. I am in central USA.

Maybe the aJ website has been overwhelmed and has no more open connections to the video stream.
37 posted on 01/28/2011 9:28:19 AM PST by TomGuy
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On Drudge as well:

Explosions and gunfire heard

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/01/28/violent-clashes-police-break-cairo/


38 posted on 01/28/2011 9:28:27 AM PST by HollyB
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To: driftdiver

Unfortunately people like Mubarak and Ben Ali have made this situation, they have been ripping the countries off for years while people live in poverty and then of course the people turn to the one they have left religion who uses them and then it all eventually boils over.

When you support dictatorial regimes sooner or later the grip fails and the people revolt, it aint pretty and we’ve seen it all before and who do we have....Obama, the biggest wimp around.

This could set back the middle east decades.


39 posted on 01/28/2011 9:28:40 AM PST by sunmars
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To: SE Mom

I disagree with Biden, this IS a BIG F~@&!NG Deal.


40 posted on 01/28/2011 9:28:47 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: Fishtalk

correct.
Remember when those in Iran rioted against tyranny and their islamic Govt?
Obama said nothing about the Govt, now today we have riots led by the muslim brotherhood and obama says the Govt should tone it down.

Just when will most American Jews wake up?


41 posted on 01/28/2011 9:29:03 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: SE Mom

Thank you or doing this. Hopefully, it will be easier to find news now if it is all in one place.


42 posted on 01/28/2011 9:29:03 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: SE Mom

Thank you!! I’ve been trying to follow the news.


43 posted on 01/28/2011 9:29:11 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Fishtalk
If these Egyptians are sucessful at throwing over Muburak and they put the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, effectly replacing one form of oppression with another, well then shame the hell on them.

Of course, here in the real world the effects of an Egyptian Islamic state would not be confined to Egypt... at the very least, it would shut down the Suez Canal, and probably destabilize the entire region (Jordan is also apparently experiencing unrest). The Saudis are probably beginning to shift nervously in their seats, too.

Not too sure I like the idea of the entire Middle East being in the clutches of militant Islamic rulers....

And when they begin to threaten Israel, we have to consider the likelihood that the Israelis will start popping nukes if things start looking really bad.

Shame the hell on us, if we don't have a clear-headed approach to dealing with this situation.

And shame the hell on us for electing an incompetent like Barack Obama to the presidency.

44 posted on 01/28/2011 9:29:41 AM PST by r9etb
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To: SE Mom
Can we request the Bush team to step in short term to handle this?
Scary to have the current bunch in charge.
45 posted on 01/28/2011 9:29:59 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: SE Mom

The commodity markets are reacting.

GOLD is up $40 off its morning lows.

OIL is up $4.50 off its morning lows.

Camel dung is about to hit the fan.

Fill up your gas tank and trade your paper money for gold.


46 posted on 01/28/2011 9:30:20 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Kartographer

Wikileaks was the first domino, I hope they’re happy when the entire Middle East goes up in flames.


47 posted on 01/28/2011 9:30:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TomGuy

Yes, it is spotty, to be expected really...


48 posted on 01/28/2011 9:30:43 AM PST by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: Uncle Ike

Okay, I’m starting to get freaked out...


49 posted on 01/28/2011 9:31:02 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Lessthantolerant

Don’t think for one minute this is good news for us.

If this works for the rioters do you know who will take power?

The muslims brotherhood which is not good for us or Israel.
Yes I know the corrupt biased media is not telling all the story on this and obama is telling the Govt there to tone it down but funny how he never told the Iranian Govt to tone it down.


50 posted on 01/28/2011 9:31:11 AM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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