Posted on 01/29/2011 12:55:55 PM PST by MindBender26
Excuse me... should be Israel!
I doubt obama’s losing sleep over this. In fact I’m wondering if he had anything to do with this.
I posted this on another thread...
What about Soro’s/Brezinski/Kissinger? Their guy Mohamed El Baradei was sent over there. El Baradei is hooked up with Soros/Brezinski through the International Crisis Group. They condemned Mubarak right away by calls for the government to stop using violence against the protesters. Soro’s group was also involved in the “red” color revolution in Thailand. El creepo is also involved in the nuclear proliferation treaty with obama. Kissinger said obama has a chance to bring in a new world order just last year.
Mohamed ElBaradei: Egypt’s president-in-waiting?
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2011/01/28/f-profile-mohamed-elbaradei.html
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en.aspx
More on El creepo
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2009/1105/p02s07-usfp.html
http://www.acronym.org.uk/npt/index.htm
I heard that El Baradei issued the statement that he wants to create a new Egypt based on democracy, freedom, and SOCIAL JUSTICE.
He has decimated oil and oil production in America along with his predecessors, we are now put in a situation by our politicians who have continually said on and off the campaign trail for years that we must not be energy dependent and they have done nothing since the Carter crisis. We have been continually lied to and we will once again experience the days of the 70’s and worse.
Yes, it's true some supertankers can't make it through the Suez, but I wouldn't say most can't make it. Like the Panama Canal's limitations, which are known as Panamax, the Suez has "Suezmax". The Panamax restrictions are even less forgiving than the Suezmax restrictions, which are depth (draft) restrictions more than anything else. I think it can accommodate a draft approaching 70ft - that's quite a bit, much more than even a US supercarrier needs - I know, I've been through it four times on a carrier.
In any event, the Suez still sees a tremendous amount of oil shipping each each, and it's recognized as a "chokepoint" in the oil supply chain.
I also agree that it would be virtually impossible for Egypt to "hold" the Suez against an allied defense, but reactionary forces could play havoc on the shipping channel guerrilla attacks. There are plenty of places where you're exposed to shore-launched RPGs, to say nothing of mortar or less-mobile artillery & rocket attacks.
Here is a question— why is it that when the Iranians went to the streets to protest the tyranny of their Islamic theocratic government, it did not catch on with all the other Middle East countries who also have been living under tyranny? The Iranian protestors used the same methods like email, texting, flash mobs, thousands of people in the street but it went nowhere. The world looked on and did nothing. But when large numbers of people take to the streets protesting a tyrannical secular government, whether in Egypt or Tunisia, suddenly the Arab world erupts with sympathetic demonstrations and calls for taking down their own secular tyrannical governments.
Could this be a stealth version of the 1979 Iranian revolution? The Egyptian protests began with Facebook postings, anybody can put on a Facebook posting, you cannot know the motive of the original poster. It may have been someone who was simply tired of Mubarrak or it could have been a stealth Muslim Brotherhood conspirator.
I have looked carefully at the crowds in the Egyptian street looking for some obvious Muslim fanatics, but I saw few who were screaming out Allah Akbar. This movement does not, so far, have a Muslim radical look about it. But that could be part of a plan. The imams could be telling there people in the mosques “Don’t blow it, don’t give it away.” The Muslim Brotherhood may have been planning this for many months, they have members in many countries including the USA and Europe. The demonstrations in the USA were interesting, I wonder who these people are.
The terrorists could cause problems in the Suez, but it would be a difficult place for them to operate from as there is nothing but sand along the canal. There is hardly a rock to hide behind.
I’m not saying that we do not have a problem, but simply saying that it is not an international disaster.
Furthermore, in 1979 the protesters in Teheran were calling for a theocracy, while the protesters in Cairo and Alex are calling for democracy.
El Baradei poses as a critic of the United States, note not because of meddling in the Middle East, but because they are not doing enough. In the media El Baradei berates the US for not intervening in what he calls “social disintegration, economic stagnation, and political repression” in Egypt all the while working with soros/obama. Maybe they are setting up their new world order.
The NY Slimes and NPR love him..
“This is the work of a barbaric regime that is in my view doomed,” he said. “They are completely desperate. We have been walking in a peaceful demonstration. This is our basic right. And I hope the pictures will be everywhere to see how barbaric, how petrified, how dictatorial is this regime.”
“Make no mistake,” he added, sounding more and more the revolutionary, “this kind of violence will be completely counterproductive. It will backfire in their face, if not today then tomorrow.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/world/middleeast/29elbaradei.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
Could Egypt’s ElBaradei Be A Hero Of The Revolution?
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/28/133307779/could-egypts-elbaradei-be-a-hero-of-the-revolution
Iranis are not Arabs. They are Persian or Azeri (only 3% Arab). Nor are they Sunni Muslims. They are Shiites. Among other Muslim nations, only Iraq has a significant population of Shiites.
There is no sympathy extended by Arabs to Persians; not by Sunnis to Shiites.
“Oil is now $100 a barrel. Obama doing nothing. “
And why would he do something? If he controls the oil, he controls food distribution which means he and his czars control the people.
And Iraq and Kuwait and Qatar...
Yes, that's true for about half of the canal. But, on the half that's closest to the Med, there are all kinds of places to hide while launching guerrilla attacks. There are several cities, and grassy farmlands, right along the banks.
Going back to what you said earlier, you also have to entertain the possibility that a future government - one less friendly to both the US and Israel, could close down the Suez to some, or much traffic as a leverage tool. Then what? Do we invade? I'm not sure there's an appetite for that. Whatever would happen, it would give upward pressure to the oil markets. Oil has spiked almost $20 bucks just in these two days
And yes, it doesn't appear these populist protest are calling for theocratic rule, as perhaps was the case in the Iranian Revolution, but as the "free elections" in Gaza three years ago proved, the Theocrats could come to power in a (fairly) free election.
Rulers have met the enemy and it is Demographics + Democracy. Produce or perish. Majority wins.
All but the largest tankers can pass through the Suez now that it has been deepened 66ft.
If the islamists take over they will, of course, be tyrants but that doesn't change the fact that Mubarak and company are tyrants as well. Revolution is a dangerous game but the people are clearly past the point where the "evils are sufferable". A year from now they may find that they made a terrible choice but I find it hard to be critical of people who want out from under a dictator.
I’ll add to the other reply you received that the difference in language has a big impact. Persians and Arabs don’t have the same TV stations, newspapers, websites, etc.
With 0' getting involved in this for a couple of years now, I'd imagine Soro's would have had wind of what's going on, and had plenty of time to invest in Brazilian oil and gold to make a few bucks on the inevitable and predictable (from his perspective) facts.
I'm having a Dé-Shah vous...
I thought the “Trojan Horse” was a Fairy Tale?
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