Skip to comments.Mysterious Olive Farm Deflates Balloon Companies
Posted on 01/31/2011 4:49:36 PM PST by MeganC
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If you can hit them with a shotgun, they’re flying too low.
Suing for what?
It will be interesting to see where Freepers come down on this one.
blocking the sunlight that allows the olive trees to grow.
When I spent a few months in Laguna Nigel the big news was one homeowner sueing someone building a house over a block away because his porch was blocking a few feet of his view of the Pacific. Seems only reasonable to prevent ballons from blocking their view of the clouds or stars.
“If you can hit them with a shotgun, theyre flying too low.”
If you’re shooting at aircraft with a shotgun your IQ is too low.
Just like any other aircraft, balloons are required to fly above 500 feet (above ground level), except when taking off and landing. They also have to maintain 1000 feet over any obstacle within 2000 feet, horizontally.
As long as they are doing this, they are legal. "Property rights" don't include the air above you.
[Note: balloon festivals get a waiver of these rules, with certain pre-requisites]
They evidently have a lot of money for a lawyer. They are bankrupting people with legal fees or getting default court orders because people cannot afford to defend themselves.
Why would an honest judge reward these pukes?
When you start reading some of the local accounts in the Desert Sun this group starts to sound sort of whack-a-doodle. They spent the last ten years building a fortress, their attorney pulled his profile off of Findlaw today, and they’ve got all sorts of oddball maildrops for all of their corporate officers.
Most likely farming a protected cash crop, i.e., marijuana.
Strangely, their attorney, John Rauch, is listed as deceased on the state bar website.
Never mind, had the wrong first name.
When in use of a shotgun during depredation operations in your olive grove, you should happen to hit a aircraft...they are flying too low.
Google earth them...
Regardless of their altitude you are responsible for anything your shot or bullets hits. Flying over a property does not justify lethal force.
Weren’t the Corleones in the olive oil business?
Is that a nudist colony? LOL on Google Earth pix
As near as I can tell, they are at 33.651963,-116.222928. A small compound surrounded by a lot of olive trees.
Here's a Bing view:
And here's a more recent photo, published by a local paper:
Me and some of my Texas buddies have some neat RC planes with cameras we would fly over that place and have some nice photos.
This bunch must own the local judges cause that is no more an olive orchard nor agri research facility.
It’s just my nosy nature to want to know what’s REALLY going on/growing inside those walls. :)
It also has a moat.
Sounds like it’s “Area 52”.
got an address?
The following sounds really weird. What kind of oversight would be required for such a thing?
“The patent application refers to spore-forming microorganisms, present in soil, plants and other forms of organic matter, (that) survive excessive heat of a fire within soil or carbonized wood. The microorganisms are purported to enhance plant growth and plants nutritional value, and can be useful in producing DNA-enhanced plants which may be consumed by human individuals for enhancing human DNA.”
More like “Area 69” - Probably making porn movies!
Awesome...it’s his TEOTWAWKI fortress a doomstead!
I bet there’s underground stuff there too with an egress somewhere beyond the walls.
That place would certainly be defensible when the zombie horde arrives.
The address is uncertain. Best guess would be 54560 Arabia St, Indio, CA 92201. However, that address is not in the USPS ZIP+4 lookup database, nor is it in the map database that Google and Microsoft use.
Based on the aerial, the entrance is on Arabia street, between 54th and what would 55th. Here's a photo that purports to be of the forbidding entry fortifications:
Wouldn't be the first time the address databases are screwed up. If I look up my house, for instance, the map marker is about 300 ft from where it should be.
Nice place to be owned outright. No mortgages on the property.
mydesert.com blogs rumor connections to Bilderberg.
Structure built just after Annenbergs’ death.????
Several high stakes players picked up properties in that area since the market was near the peak in 2007. Google and Zillow don’t show the compound per the anon pic from mydesert.com.
In this economy, loss of nearly all small engine aircraft business in the area due to this one character isn’t popular and local word gets around fast.
Happens to be on an approach for MV-22s if they come up from Yuma to 29 Palms via Palm Springs though. Go figure.
The neighborhood also attracts Mexicali coyotes trafficking the area.
FWIW, county codes disallow anything over 35ft tall. Walls in the county are only allowed to be about 6ft tall, so most folks build a berm with site improvements to get more height at gated communities.
Since he is allegedly industrial secret in nature, his zoning might be violated, no longer qualifying for agricultural permitting. He seeks to disallow the noise of hot air balloons disturbing his olive trees, while applying for helicopter pad LZ permits.
IMHO, he’s too stupid and gaudy to be a spook, but too outlandishly wealthy using any cover for true intent.
Is there a big lake on the property? If so, stay away...
He appears to be about 4620ft WSW of the alignment approach to NW end of runway 12 at Thermal airport about 2.75 miles away. He is well within the 20000 ft Surface zone for the approach (about 16000ft) and Elev -29 ASL,..Airport Elev of -115ASL.
IMHO, the airport was there before he was and he should have investigated before he invested.
Regarding the nearby Thermal CA airport,...from Wikipedia...
“The facility hosts an air show in late November, showcasing both full-scale aircraft and radio controlled models as flown by members of the Coachella Valley Radio Control Club. Due to that club’s proximity to the facility, both the club and the airport work closely in mid-January to establish no-fly zones for the club’s “Best In The West” national jet rally. A temporary model operational ceiling of 2000’ (610m) is established during that time due to the size and speed of the models which participate.”
FWIW, the FAA geometry on the approach is a bit unique. Both sites are below sea level and the estate claiming to be encroached is about 100ft higher than the airport elevation. If the airport runway is flat, then the 500AGL surface extending some 20,000ft from the edge of the imaginary airspace might actually be some 400ft above the elevation of the estate.
By making such a fuss, he might actually attract enough attention to formally allow all pilots in the area to fly lower than normally prohibited.
It won’t matter much in a large earthquake in this valley. There isn’t anything keeping the Sea of Cortez from flooding the area and placing the estate 30 ft below the waves of the Pacific if the silt deposits south of Mexicali liquify.
Heh...maybe it’s the lizard brains...
Oh man! There’s gotta be something highly illegal going on.
Here is an excerpt from one of the late John C. Marrelli patents per “Who is JCM Farming and what are they doing?”, http://www.mydesert.com/article/20110130/NEWS01/110130002
The patent application refers to spore-forming microorganisms, present in soil, plants and other forms of organic matter, (that) survive excessive heat of a fire within soil or carbonized wood. The microorganisms are purported to enhance plant growth and plants nutritional value, and can be useful in producing DNA-enhanced plants which may be consumed by human individuals for enhancing human DNA.
(The shed looks large enough to grow those large pods or “DNA-enhanced plants for enhancing human DNA”.)
Owner of the property declared his property to be a congested area requiring additional height clearance from the FAA.
If true, then the property owner might not be compliant with county fire codes. Only one route of entrance/egress exists in the walled property for emergency vehicular access. If more than 50 occupants, then he must provide for a circulation route to minimally provide over a 2 lane paved road with sidewalk, curb and gutter, and a fire main circumferencing the development.
Additionally, his alteration to the land use would no longer be rural agricultural and if encroaching upon the AICUZ, might trigger requirements for an environmental assessment or environmental impact study with open public assessment of his impacts on community and surrounding cities.
It appears he sure has harmed the local economy by their litigious behavior.
Interesting how his compound is oriented in a fashion similar to the Temple Mount with the gate on the East Wall.
Yea, I’m puzzling over this one too. As are most balloonists. I expect that the balloonists will win if they can pay all of the legal fees that will pile up if this guy keeps bringing frivolous suits.
You guys have different sites. I’m thinking cynwoody’s is correct.
I’m really wondering about the geometric designs in the pool bottom in that one photo. That looks/feels like Islamic art/design. Who knows, though? This is a weird one for sure.
Enhancing human DNA by eating plants, eh? Sounds like Marrelli was a classic California nutrition quack!
It's the only big olive farm in the vicinity, and the layout of the compound in its center matches mydesert.com's photo perfectly.
I wonder how old the Google and Bing photography is. I wonder who all they hired to build the wall, renovate the buildings, add the deluxe pool, and clear the parking lot.
I bet their contracts all have serious non-disclosure language. That, or they’re all deeply buried on the site somewhere.