Skip to comments.Egyptians Turning on Each Other (EGYPT LIVE THREAD # 2)
Posted on 02/02/2011 7:31:01 AM PST by SE Mom
URGENT: Gunfire heard in Cairo's Tahrir Square as supporters of President Mubarak and anti-government demonstrators clash hours after the embattled leader defiantly said he would serve out his term in office.
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“Jesus, that sounds like huge artillery fire now going on.”
I’d say. It’s almost deafening! God, please protect the reporters who are filming that....I don’t care if they are from MSNBC.
The Middle East Crisis Part XIV: Al-Qaeda Deputy Leader Al-Zawahiri Deputy Encourages Egyptians to Stand Fast and Topple Mubarak
It is so sickening that it has come to this......the US government and Al-Qaeda having the same goal.
What we should have done is screaming, loud and clear: SUPPORT PRESIDENT MUBARAK!!!!......but it has fallen on deaf ears.
Yes it does need to be documented- and in reference to that here’s what I just heard-
On MSNBC Chris Jansen was talking to Nicholas Kristof from the NYT who sounded truly frightened for the first time since I’ve heard him over there- he’s in the middle of Cairo and his voice was shaking and he was having difficulty focusing on the questions being asked and sounded unsure of how to answer them.
Next up was Ron Allen who had been in Alexandria and was making his way to Cairo. He told of going through a checkpoint that was pretty intense and then mentioned “colleagues in the middle of Cairo trying to get out”...and the crackdown going on against journalists.
The people from NBC in Cairo now are Brian Wilson, Richard Engel and a couple of others.
It’s getting very dicey.
This has been sitting in the back of our minds, but to read the intention so blatantly is.... is ...I can’t find the words.
The region is changing, right before our eyes.
1502: Al-Arabiya reporting that Mubarak supporters have stormed hotels in Cairo, chasing foreign journalists.
“The region is changing, right before our eyes.”
Exactly, and I have to agree with Israeli PM Netanyahu that Iran is most likely behind this.
We’re looking at the rise of radical, terrorist theocracies all over the Middle East, just like Iran.
“1502: Al-Arabiya reporting that Mubarak supporters have stormed hotels in Cairo, chasing foreign journalists.”
I think Mubarak is probably quite upset now with the West, and rightfully so. We threw him under the bus and spat in his face. Despicable!
And, as awful as that is, this is going to have/is having a massive ripple effect throughout the Middle East.
Thanks for all the updates - I’m forced to be in and out this morning, dealing with frozen water pipes —
-8 (that’s ‘minus’ 8) degrees overnight here in Sunny Southern New Mexico, and our plumbing just wasn’t designed to deal with this.. :(
I’ll be popping in from time to time to try to keep caught up (and get warm, of course...)
Terrible Uncle Ike, didn’t realize it ever got that cold down there. Praying no serious damage. Stay warm, sending you some ear muffs!
Oh no :( sorry to hear about your water pipes. Good luck.
1522: BBC Arabic correspondent Khaled Ezzelarab: Heavy gunfire heard in Abdel Monem Riyad Square in downtown Cairo.
1518: Ashraf Khalil tweets: “Huge plumes of smoke coming from up the river past national archives. Hard to tell but could be Arcadia mall.”
1516: AFP citing witnesses saying a supermarket on the outskirts of Cairo is on fire.
“I don’t think the Americans understand yet the disaster they have pushed the Middle East into,” said lawmaker Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who until recently was a Cabinet minister and who is a longtime friend of Mubarak.
“If there are elections like the Americans want, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Muslim Brotherhood didn’t win a majority, it would win half of the seats in parliament,” he told Army Radio. “It will be a new Middle East, extremist radical Islam.”
Why do you think we have a right to interfere with their government? Would you like them to actively support/undermine Obama or Palin?
Egypt has a constitution and elections. We should stay out of their affairs. No wonder they hate us.
But we don’t throw our allies under the bus.
We should at least have aknowledged Mubareks relationship to us and peace with Israel.
Al Jazeera breaking: AFP: Foreigner dies in Meydan Tahrir
Now this is either a journolist or its one of those code pink mob? Who else would it be.
Oh no...checking around but can’t find more on this- will post if/when I do.
He is our ally. I’m not saying send troops in, but to publicly disgrace and throw him under the bus is just WRONG. It shows that we don’t keep our word.
We did interfere in this mess by supporting his opposition. And, as so many others have said, it’s incomprehensible that we are supporting terrorists, while we didn’t lift a finger to support those in Iran who did fight for freedom.
The call is going out on terrorist forums for AQ to join in the fun; they will ‘help’ the protesters; perhaps ‘staying out of their affairs’ is not such a great idea...
The iraqis are leaving Cairo, they say its safer in Baghdad.
now you don’t hear that often.
Breaking Al Jazeera: Greek journalist stabbed in Cairo while covering the protests in Meydan Tahrir
NPR regarding the stabbed Greek journalist: Released from Hospital
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Al-Qaeda Deputy Leader Al-Zawahiri Deputy Encourages Egyptians to Stand Fast and Topple Mubarak
Muslim Brotherhood wants end to Egypt-Israeli peace deal
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What, did they hand out business cards? I'm not saying that the Mubarak regime isn't capable of doing this, but if some of these acts are being perpetrated by someone else, or by gov't officials w/o gov't sanction, then the regime's not the only problem. Has the regime copped to any of this?
The actions of the warring mobs and sensational TV shots are not worth one single life. There will always be some local professional news hawks there to get pictures and news out if rewarded sufficiently.
Now if the journalistas WANT to stay in the eye of the tornado for either guts or glory, then that's their business....and I have no sympathy if they refuse to heed warnings and ignore what they see with their own eyes.
oh come on like the regime is gonna say “oh yes we’re out busting journo’s heads”
They wont tell you anything until the baseball bat hits you round the head.
FWIW, I think it’d be good to know if these are actually military/supporters carrying this stuff out, military/supporters w/o gov’t sanction, or MB-types out to cause chaos. Or various combination of some or all of the above. If the Army’s doing it with approval, why hide it. They’re the Army and they work for the regime. If the military’s doing it without sanction, then has the Army brass lost control of some of its units/personnel? That could be a very big deal. And if it’s someone else out to raise havoc, then the Egyptian people ought to be made aware of that before they’re used as cannon fodder.
morning just woke up. back to this thread. Thanks again to all who are updating here!
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BARACK’S BARAKAH: President Obama prayed briefly for Egyptians on Thursday, saying at the National Prayer Breakfast that he hopes a “better day will dawn” over Egypt after protesters were attacked in Cairo.
“Were also mindful of the violence that were now seeing in the Middle East,” Obama said. “We pray that violence in Egypt will end and the rights and aspirations of the Egyptian people will be realized. And that a better day will dawn over Egypt and throughout the world.”
Oh yeah, throwing Murabek under the bus is a great idea. Thank you Obama.
thanks for the pong
“President Obama prayed briefly for Egyptians”
Pray for what? How about he get on his knees and repent for SCREWING UP Egypt, betraying an ally, and pretty much guaranteeing a war against Israel!
yes i agree. Just shameful
(Wonder which professional revolutionary type put this together)
Egyptians Circulate Manual for Protesters
The manual also lists strategic targets that can be taken over by protesters, such as the television and radio buildings, the presidential palace, and major police stations in Cairo.
Diagram explaining how to hold a march: small groups start in different locations and converge
The tactical goals of the civil disobedience [actions] are:
Image showing how to converge on TV building in Cairo
Diagram explaining how to thwart police’s attempt to halt a march
How to confront the riot police
This is like his handling of this economy. The more grave mistakes he makes and the worse it gets, the more he increases the cause and effect of the disaster!
Check this out:
“Obama and Hillary Helping “Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for War With Israel’”
Obama, Soros, Ayers, Clinton and any of the rest of the fools who encouraged and or created this mess and who have counseled with or supported the MB in what is occurring over there will have this come back to bite them in the arse. Big time.
Someone should tell Obama that trying to keep control of the Muslim Brotherhood is like trying to put a leash on the Devil.
May the Lord bless and keep Israel safe in the days ahead. (Isaiah 25)
Reminder from: Shoebat.com (firstname.lastname@example.org)
(Might have been mentioned in another thread)
19:1 The burden against Egypt. Behold, the LORD rides on a swift cloud, And will come into Egypt; The idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, And the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst. (when Messiah comes)
19:2”I will set Egyptians against Egyptians; Everyone will fight against his brother, And everyone against his neighbor, City against city, kingdom against kingdom.
19:3 The spirit of Egypt will fail in its midst; I will destroy their counsel, And they will consult the idols and the charmers, The mediums and the sorcerers.
19:4 And the Egyptians I will give Into the hand of a cruel master, And a fierce king will rule over them,” Says the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
My; What a coincidence...???
information appreciated, and Thank You
FRESH CONDEMNATION: Briefing reporters on Air Force One, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs condemned the arrests of journalists in Egypt, calling for the release of foreign reporters. He says President Obama was briefed on the matter today, according to the radio pool.
Gibbs called the treatment of journalists “completely and totally unacceptable.”
He also said the White House hopes the new prime minister there keeps his promise to hold accountable those who are responsible for the violence in the streets.
“...OMG! Not the camels! They’ve brought in the camels! ...”
212th Camel Assault Brigade, “Allah’s Humpers”. An elite unit, to be sure. Only called in when the natives are geting restless...
all part of a plan maybe
Rush Limbaugh just said he has heard unconfirmed reports that Mubarak has left Egypt.