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Pawlenty impresses Iowans on substance; Group backtracks on Huckabee commitment
TheIowaRepublican.com ^ | 2/8/2012 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 02/08/2011 9:14:25 AM PST by bigred08

Tim Pawlenty said all the right things during the inaugural “Presidential Lecture Series” event sponsored by The FAMiLY Leader. A crowd of 150 attendees, plus a dozen media members, gathered at Pella Christian High School early Monday afternoon to listen to the former Minnesota governor. The crowd liked what they heard, but was not blown away by Pawlenty’s delivery.

If elections were won only on substance, Pawlenty would stand a strong chance in the 2012 Iowa Caucus. However, style matters too. Oratorical skills propelled Barack Obama to the White House in 2008. Pawlenty will need to become a more passionate speaker as the campaign moves forward. He possesses an everyman quality that could endear him to caucus goers, but lacks the soaring rhetoric of Obama, folksy humor of Mike Huckabee, and fiery charisma of Chris Christie.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012; ethanol; farmerfathead; huckabee; huckaphoney; ia2012; iowacaucus; mikehuckabee; obama; pawlenty; pawlenty2012; timpawlenty; tpaw; vanderplaats
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1 posted on 02/08/2011 9:14:26 AM PST by bigred08
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To: bigred08

Question is, is Pawlenty in it to win it, or is he a stalking horse busting up Huckabee so Huck never gets in the game?


2 posted on 02/08/2011 9:18:11 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: bigred08

...considering how Iowa swooned over Obama and launched his campaign, I have no confidence in their judgement...Republican or Democrat.


3 posted on 02/08/2011 9:20:18 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: bigred08

If we had to take a boring Governor, I’d rather have Indiana’s Mitch Daniels.


4 posted on 02/08/2011 9:20:56 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: Free Vulcan
'Question is, is Pawlenty in it to win it"

I don't know. It sure doesn't seem like he has any fire in the belly, no passion whatsoever. I don't know if you have to mirror Obama's charisma, but you have to have at least some charisma, to be believable. Pawlenty has none.

5 posted on 02/08/2011 9:21:26 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: bigred08

Iowans, as a group, are not well informed. They are sheep that follow the Baaa in front of them.

Pawlenty is a smooth Romney shill, which is even worse than Huck, the liberal Dem in RINO clothing.


6 posted on 02/08/2011 9:22:35 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: bigred08

PAWLENTY- the governor that made no public outcry while AL FRANKEN stole the US senate seat from Coleman? No thank you...I am looking for politicians with a back bone and a set of you know whats...


7 posted on 02/08/2011 9:22:55 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: bigred08
Far from Breaking News and all this emphasis on the 2012 Presidential race distracts us from the cause at hand, defeating Obama’s plans for 2011.
8 posted on 02/08/2011 9:23:56 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: bigred08

Pawlenty?

Hahahahahahahahahahah.

We’re trying to beat Obama. What has Pawlenty said or done to make you believe he’s the one?


9 posted on 02/08/2011 9:25:29 AM PST by Jim Noble (Reelect Palin 2016)
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To: bigred08

Why a conservative would vote for Elmer Gantrybee is beyond me.


10 posted on 02/08/2011 9:28:10 AM PST by Salo
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To: bigred08

Pawlenty signs bill increasing ethanol content in gasoline
(May 10,2005)
St. Paul, Minn. — Gov. Pawlenty signed the ethanol mandate into law at a gas station that sells E-85, a blend containing 85-percent ethanol.
The new law would double the state’s current requirement that all gasoline sold in the state contain 10 percent of the corn-based additive.
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/05/10_ap_ethanol/

I bet this would impress them, too.


11 posted on 02/08/2011 9:29:15 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: bigred08

Mr. Peepers.


12 posted on 02/08/2011 9:36:29 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: bigred08
Making a commitment to anybody at this stage of the game is stupid.
13 posted on 02/08/2011 9:37:47 AM PST by falkayn
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To: Free Vulcan
Question is, is Pawlenty in it to win it, or is he a stalking horse busting up Huckabee so Huck never gets in the game?

Either answer is just as good for me. No More Big Spending Republicans, period.

14 posted on 02/08/2011 9:38:20 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: bigred08
Pawlenty has said some things I like a lot (entitlements) and some things I don't like (ethanol).

And like the rest of the field, he is spookily silent on the subject of the corrupt banking sector.

Still wide open for me, only Romney and Huckabee are completely off the table.

15 posted on 02/08/2011 9:39:39 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Notary Sojac

Sigh. Yes, sadly, what it takes to be president is not only knowledge and good policy, but presence, charisma, and the ability to communicate.

Funny, we DO have a candidate who possesses all of those things, however, guys like Pawlenty and such just don’t seem to want to get behind HER ....hmmmmm.


16 posted on 02/08/2011 9:44:24 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: LibsRJerks
SHE is also spookily silent on the subject of the corrupt banking sector.

When she grabs the issue with both hands, the Palin '12 sign goes up in my yard.

17 posted on 02/08/2011 9:47:00 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: bigred08

According to local talk radio host Steve Deace the following candidates are seen as organizing to win the Iowa Caucuses.
• Michelle Bachmann
• Haley Barbour
• Herman Cain
• Newt Gingrich
• Ron Paul
• Governor Tim Pawlenty
• Rick Santorum

Palin and Huck are definitely NOT making an effort and Mitt Romney will most likely try to have a small presence late in the game.


18 posted on 02/08/2011 9:47:51 AM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I personally think the “stalking horse” stuff is a fragment of overheated imaginations.


19 posted on 02/08/2011 9:49:17 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

...I am looking for politicians with a back bone and a set of you know whats...


Barbour/Bachman 2012


20 posted on 02/08/2011 9:50:49 AM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Notary Sojac
only Romney and Huckabee are completely off the table.

They'll probably be first and second place. They were second and third last time.

21 posted on 02/08/2011 9:57:16 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: Notary Sojac

In the 1952 election, Nixon was an obvious stalking horse for Eisenhower.

He worked actively to destroy Macarthur, who was the ‘Reagan,’ or ‘Palin,’ of that election, and was rewarded with the vice presidency.


22 posted on 02/08/2011 9:58:17 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: STONEWALLS

A lot of states swooned over Obama before they knew better.
Don’t forget he was the black Jesus and waved his arm and promised to calm the seas and the raising tide. Like Hitler, many fell for him including independents. Obama has lost all of his satanic magic he only has 22% at most.


23 posted on 02/08/2011 10:02:26 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: bigred08

The media want Romney. I want West.

A poll of Iowa showed they want an outsider.
West/Cain


24 posted on 02/08/2011 10:05:49 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: bigred08

didn’t this guy get on TV and distance himself from Palin’s crosshairs, thereby extending the narrative?


25 posted on 02/08/2011 10:07:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: bigred08
Is Pawlenty a Social Conservative...or any special type of Conservative?

I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH ABOUT HIS POSITIONS ON THE ISSUES.

26 posted on 02/08/2011 10:11:33 AM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: bigred08
Americans Think Obama Would Lose In 2012
27 posted on 02/08/2011 10:16:10 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Mariner

Pawlenty, Doyle and other Midwest governors sign on to global warming pact

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/11/15/govsgreenhouse/

4 years ago he was all over Gobull Warming.


28 posted on 02/08/2011 10:19:21 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: Huck
They'll probably be first and second place. They were second and third last time.

Wait to see George Stephanopoulos telling everyone "xxxx xxxxxxx" is doing really great and coming up in the polls...

That will be the MSM Overlords pick for designated Republican loser to "The Øne" and hundreds of millions worth of propaganda, face time interviews and softball games will be tossed their way.

.

29 posted on 02/08/2011 10:23:03 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

I don’t watch TV, so I won’t see Stephanopoulos do anything.


30 posted on 02/08/2011 10:26:52 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: falkayn

Ping and double ping. Any state GOP, or other party with a vested interest in the conservative or GOP candidate for president, that commits to a candidate this far out is just plain stupid.

However, it is never too soon to begin ruling out candidates who’ve a history of RINO/demrat positions. That includes Pawlenty and Romney.

I suspect its also these follows who’re generating polls or statements that favor them. IMHO, the heavyweights (Palin, for one) have been coy about running. The reason I like Palin is that she is the only potential candidtate who has been taking on Onada and his policies in a meaningful way. Seems like a lot of other pretenders are waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.

It is important that conservatives support the candidate with genuine conservative core beliefs—and who has demonstrated through deeds they are sincere in those beliefs.


31 posted on 02/08/2011 10:28:07 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

West/Cain

Who is West?


32 posted on 02/08/2011 10:38:57 AM PST by Rennes Templar ( Reagan: " When I was young we were poor, but the gov't didn't have to tell us we were poor")
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To: bigred08
What about the DARK Dark Horses? The new Governor of Virginia? Or THE DONALD has been floating his name around and he actually has said some stuff that I would support. John Bolton, too.
33 posted on 02/08/2011 10:55:07 AM PST by ExSoldier
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To: Free Vulcan

Are we going to start the stalking horse stuff again this cycle. Pawlenty has been running for a year. After the guy Huck pardoned killed 4 cops, I never thought he would run again. Why would Pawlenty enter the race a year ago to try to damage Huck’s chances. Huck’s done all the damage himself. He doesn’t need a stalking horse.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I won’t vote for a man that turns his back on the call to preach and save souls, to barter for votes...


34 posted on 02/08/2011 10:55:56 AM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: editor-surveyor

MacArthur was never a serious candidate for President. And a good thing, too.


35 posted on 02/08/2011 11:02:05 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: bigred08

I am far from sold on Pawlenty, but as someone who would like to see some other, more serious alternatives crack Romney, Palin, and Huckabee’s chokehold on the top tier of the Republican Presidential field, I am hoping to see Pawlenty and others gain some traction in Iowa.

Unfortunately, after reading the article, there doesn’t seem to be much evidence that Pawlenty really “impressed” Iowa Republicans, as suggested by the headline of this thread - which, by the way, is different from the headline of the source article. That is unfortunate, because “substance” is something we desperately need from our eventual nominee, and given their disproportionate role as Presidential kingmakers, I’m hoping Iowans respond to substance.


36 posted on 02/08/2011 11:44:48 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Mariner

Umm...then maybe you should read the article.


37 posted on 02/08/2011 11:45:08 AM PST by bigred08
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To: Mariner

Umm...then maybe you should read the article.


38 posted on 02/08/2011 11:46:24 AM PST by bigred08
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To: Rennes Templar

You tube google Lt Col Allen West


39 posted on 02/08/2011 12:10:55 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: ExSoldier
What about the DARK Dark Horses? The new Governor of Virginia? Or THE DONALD has been floating his name around and he actually has said some stuff that I would support. John Bolton, too.

I'm liking Bob McDonnell, though I think it's a tad early in his career for him to run for President. Of course, as we get further into the campaign season, a lot of those "too early" candidates are starting to look better than the candidates whose "turn" it is. I think I'd be open to supporting him if he decides to run, especially if the only other choices are the "top tier" as it stands today.

I really like Bolton, and think it's about time we had a President who "gets it" on foreign policy. I am concerned by the fact that he has no real political or executive experience - Condi Rice's tenure as Secretary of State should serve as a warning that deep knowledge of foreign policy issues does not necessarily translate into leadership abilities. He has also made some recent comments on "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and gay marriage that will turn off a lot of conservatives.

Trump has said a lot of things a like and some things I don't, but he has a blunt, common sense way of expressing himself that I think a lot of people would find appealing in a Presidential candidate. That could help his candidacy pass the initial "laugh test" - which i think is a serious obstacle in his case. He does have some similar issues to Bolton in that some of his professed stances (in Trump's case, on abortion and gun control) will turn off a lot of conservatives.

On the whole, all three of those candidates have problems. However, I'm not sure we would have been better off starting with Trump, Bolton, and McDonnell as our "top 3" instead of Romney, Palin, and Huckabee.
40 posted on 02/08/2011 12:16:55 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: ExSoldier

I would love for the Governor of Virginia to run. I think he may have the “it” factor as well as the policies. He comes across as presidential, I think, although I’ve only seen him a few times. The American voter votes 1/3 on policy and 2/3 on looks or gravitas or whatever it is. Reagan had “it” big time!!!


41 posted on 02/08/2011 12:17:27 PM PST by ncweaver
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To: bigred08

The Iowa interactive group on Fox last night want Chris Christie but were saying Huckabee because he is actually planning a run.


42 posted on 02/08/2011 12:27:12 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: OldDeckHand
I don't know. It sure doesn't seem like he has any fire in the belly, no passion whatsoever. I don't know if you have to mirror Obama's charisma, but you have to have at least some charisma, to be believable. Pawlenty has none.

Personally, I think we could use a President without passion or "fire in the belly". I think our Republic desperately needs to move away from the mystique and personality cult of the plebiscitary Presidency.

That said, I agree with you that it is probably not a good formula for beating Obama, and beating Obama is the most important thing right now. While I think the voters would appreciate more sober leadership than that offered by Obama, they probably aren't going to go for someone like Pawlenty who has all the flash and sizzle of a UPS truck.
43 posted on 02/08/2011 12:32:58 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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"While I think the voters would appreciate more sober leadership than that offered by Obama, they probably aren't going to go for someone like Pawlenty who has all the flash and sizzle of a UPS truck."

Yeah, you've got to be at least engaging and nominally compelling. Pawlenty seems to be the guy who's most likely to run the Fred Thompson-like campaign of 2012. Fred would have made a great President, but his campaign was flat and uninspired. That's the kind of campaign I'd expect to see from Pawlenty, and perhaps from Daniels as well.

Personally, I'm a big Bob McDonnell fan. It's just a shame he didn't run for VA governor when Kaine did, instead of four years later. Bob's a earnest and sober guy, but he has just enough charisma to be engaging - kind of like Jim DeMint.

44 posted on 02/08/2011 12:49:54 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Free Vulcan
. . . or is he a stalking horse busting up Huckabee so Huck never gets in the game?

If he accomplishes no more than getting the Huckster out of the race, I think he has a good shot at the #2 spot on the ticket with either Sarah Palin or Herman Cain.

Personally, I find Pawlenty about as inspiring as watching paint dry. But he could very well put three libtard leaning states (Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin) into play.

45 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: The Pack Knight
Well crap, if Trump is pro gun control he's dead meat right out of the gate. No way I'm standing for THAT.
46 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:25 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: Notary Sojac

Fair enough. Let’s hope she does.


47 posted on 02/08/2011 1:04:34 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Notary Sojac

You have no ides what you’re talking about.


48 posted on 02/08/2011 1:07:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: The Pack Knight
"Personally, I think we could use a President without passion or 'fire in the belly'"

Didn't Jesus say something like that...

Rev 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
Or was it the opposite?
49 posted on 02/08/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Notary Sojac

>> “SHE is also spookily silent on the subject of the corrupt banking sector.” <<

.
Silent?

She condemned the “Federal Reserve” system back last spring.


50 posted on 02/08/2011 1:26:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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