Skip to comments.OMG, when did we start talking like txt msgs?
Posted on 02/09/2011 8:35:25 AM PST by MNDude
NEW YORK (AP) - "ILY!" Susan Maushart's 16-year-old daughter often calls out over her shoulder as she leaves the house. Sure, actual words would be better. But Mom knows not to complain.
"A mother of teenagers is pathetically grateful for an 'I love you' no matter what form it takes," she observes.
Then there are the various forms of "LOL" that her teens use in regular parlance - it's become a conjugable verb by now. And of course, there's the saltier acronym used by son Bill: "WTF, Mom?!" But before you judge, note that former VP candidate Sarah Palin just used that one in a TV interview. And CNN's Anderson Cooper used it on his show the other night.
Acronyms have been around for years. But with the advent of text and Twitter-language, it certainly feels like we're speaking in groups of capital letters a lot more. It's a question that intrigues linguists and other language aficionados - even though they'll tell you they have absolutely no concrete research on it.
"It's fascinating," says Scott Kiesling, a socio-linguist and professor at the University of Pittsburgh. "What's interesting to me as a linguist is figuring out which words get picked up, and why. What is it that makes OMG and WTF and LOL so useful that they spread from the written to the spoken form?"
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“OMG, when did we start talking like txt msgs?”
Wild guess: when we started texting.
Laziness is at the root of all changes in language.
Almost in every business meeting our staff has I ask people to write in complete sentences, it appears to be a lost form.
Don’t AXE me.
you just have to adapt. I let my kids know when I am speaking in ALL CAPS!
I think some of the devolution in culture actually takes a lot more energy than being normal.
Example: Wearing pants down to your knees means you’ll have to walk around like a penguin all day to keep your pants up, as well as constantly pulling them up. I don’t get it.
“Laziness is at the root of all changes in language.”
Bingo! I detest the butchering of the English language.
That was Barack Obama’s WTF moment. Sarah just pointed it out—and probably killed (if you’ll pardon the metaphor) Obama’s plans to introduce a spiffy new phrase to characterize his regime, in the tradition of the New Deal or the Great Society.
I suspect that Win the Future is now defunct.
I twice asked my wife’s niece to quit emailing me in texting style (I disabled real texting apps) and she completely ignored the requests. I don’t even (attempt to) read them or even open them now. I guess the kids don’t really care if anyone reads their messages or not. Just send out stupid tweets and go back to MTV on the iPhone.
I’ve believed for some time this was going to ultimately destroy the English language
I'm sure that someone from the 1880s would feel exactly the same way about your use of the language. I believe 'butchery' would have been the prefered form.
Correct...this started ages ago in internet gaming...called “L33T” speak...
About the time we started keeping up with hugh, series news whilst in the shower.
I must be living in a cocoon. We have two teenage sons, both of whom text. I’ve never heard them or their friends talk in ‘text’. They write it, which saves them keystrokes, but they don’t say it.
Ebonics? Pidgin English?.....
One could argue that much of the English Language is a result of the butchering of other languages.
IDK, IDC, SIUYA.
“I suspect that Win the Future is now defunct.”
Maybe now Obama will start an organization calles Save The Future United.
I thought ILY meant “i like yogurt”.
A better argument is that every army that ever conquered Britain integrated their own vocabulary into what was already there. It wasn't an act of butchering by the natives.
English is a mongrel language, but it became so through acts of violence.
“Laziness is at the root of all changes in language.”
“WTF?” — Five syllables
“What The F***?” — Three syllables
“Huh?” — One
Back in the late 70’s I was big into CB radio. I would always get a chuckle when some of the people I would meet would talk in the same slang as they did on the air - “Got that, good buddy?” or “that’s a big 10-4.”
I guess txt talking is the successor to that.
By the way, many of you would probably enjoy this Facebook group:
Exactly, we expect our grandchildren to speak properly, they're not allowed to sit there and text while visiting, they are to DO things and visit, to MAKE things with their hands instead of mindless texting and computer nonsense.
I have a shop and my wife gets them sewing things for their parents on special occasions, it has worked out well and has been fun.
IDK but we’ve had FUBAR far longer than txtg.
I mean this in no confrontational way, but I found this comment ironic and funny.
“I ask people to write in complete sentences, it appears to be a lost form.”
Some of us used some of the misnamed “text message” abbreviations 20-30 years ago on email, usenet, and BBS.
“Wearing pants down to your knees means youll have to walk around like a penguin all day to keep your pants up, as well as constantly pulling them up. I dont get it.”
That’s not as difficult as you might think, and is offset by other advantages. For instance, more room means more comfort. Also, it’s a lot easier not to bother learning your actual size.
I <3 TXT speak.
Well, England did it’s fair share of conquering too, so it would be safe to assume that they also picked up verbiage from the conquered and integrated into their own, and/or the conquered picked up some of the English and butchered it some more.
But yea, were all mongrels and mutts.
I wonder if text message “language” would have been so prevelant if smart phones or texting phones with keyboards (virtual or otherwise) became popular before (or is it b4?) text messaging did.
I have to think the difficulty of typing messages on a phone keypad (which requires 1 to 3 keystokes per letter) was a big contributor to the creation of and popularity text message abbreviations.
One of the favorites as a tactical radar controller was FIO...Figure it Out...and the other when a fighter wanted to argue with my suggested vector, was KMAC YOYO. Kiss My . Charlie, Your On Your Own.
“Ive believed for some time this was going to ultimately destroy the English language”
There are all sorts of dangers, texting being merely one. There’s also general cultural decline, the official abandonment of the value of standard grammar by linguistic authorities, illeteracy, community and family dissolution (thereby reducing opportunities for extended conversation), the obsession with youth, the “poetry” of popular music, television, and especially the internet. My personal bette noir is the common currency of new words deriving from typos, e.g. “pwned” and “teh.” They make me think I’m living in as Dark Age.
illeteracy = illiteracy
Please ignore the irony of this simple mistake.