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Sen. Jim Webb won't run for reelection in 2012 (D-VA)
Washington Post ^ | February 9, 2011 | Ben Pershing

Posted on 02/09/2011 8:49:28 AM PST by Hawk720

Sen. James Webb (D-Va.) has announced that he will not run for reelection in 2012.

Webb's decision, long anticipated by many in Virginia politics, will make his seat more difficult to hold for his party. Ex-Sen. George Allen (R), who lost the seat in 2006 to Webb, is running to win it back, and a handful of other GOP candidates are also running. Some Democrats hope ex-Gov. Tim Kaine will decide to run for the seat, but he has given no indication yet that he is interested.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen2012; congress; democrats; elections2012; georgeallen; goodriddance; jameswebb; jamieradtke; jimwebb; radtkeforsenate; senate; teaparty; timkaine; usmc; ussenate; va; va2012; veteran; virginia; webb; whatadisappointment
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To: cripplecreek

Ken Cuccinelli. The guy is a conservative rock star.


51 posted on 02/09/2011 9:37:37 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: xzins

Agreed. As much as I liked Allen, especially compared to Webb, he’s damaged goods now.

Cuccinelli, on the other hand, is as solid as a rock when it comes to conservative principles.


52 posted on 02/09/2011 9:44:41 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Bigtigermike

The “Blue Dog” has been voting in lockstep with them all along.


53 posted on 02/09/2011 9:46:26 AM PST by Nickname
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To: MissMagnolia

Allen was never conservative. He ran up spending and expanded the size of government (not counting the war in Iraq).


54 posted on 02/09/2011 9:46:57 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: littleharbour

http://www.mgwashington.com/index.php/news/article/cantors-mortgage-background-figured-into-bailout-bill/1896/

Yeah, real Conservative that Cantor.


55 posted on 02/09/2011 9:54:19 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Hawk720

How do you think I’m gonna get along without you when you’re gone?
You took me for everything that I had and kicked me out on my own
Are you happy? Are you satisfied?
How long can you stand the heat?
Out of the doorway the bullets rip to the sound of the beat (Look out)
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust


56 posted on 02/09/2011 9:57:50 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: Hawk720

Good riddance to that sellout.


57 posted on 02/09/2011 9:58:17 AM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: CPT Clay

The 2014 election looks good as well. Twenty Democrats and only 13 Republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014

I’m thinking 60 GOP senators in 2015 is possible.


58 posted on 02/09/2011 9:59:16 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Allen has this won hands down, thankfully.


59 posted on 02/09/2011 10:02:42 AM PST by Dave W
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To: Hawk720
Guess he's going back to writing kiddie porn.
60 posted on 02/09/2011 10:05:06 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: CPT Clay

I would love to see that phony, Casey, fall. Schumer recruited him to run against Santorum. Also, I would love to see Talent take back his old seat in Missouri. And in a couple of years, I would love to see Al Franken-Stein lose in Minnesota - he stole that race.


61 posted on 02/09/2011 10:13:27 AM PST by juliej
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To: Niteranger68
John Belushi voice;

"I hate people who write kiddie porn."

62 posted on 02/09/2011 10:16:40 AM PST by investigateworld (Free Traders don't need guns 'cause they know The Peoples Republic of China are their friends)
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To: Bigtigermike

Now we’ll learn how liberal he really is.


63 posted on 02/09/2011 10:17:39 AM PST by proudpapa
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To: CPT Clay; Hawk720; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; InterceptPoint; randita; Coop; ...

I don’t know whether I’d rather run against Webb or whichever Democrat ends up running; unless it’s someone who voted for Obamacare in the House (like Periello) or was publicly in favor of it (like Kaine), you know that the Democrat will pretend that he would not have voted for Obamacare and will vote to uphold traditional Virginia values.


64 posted on 02/09/2011 10:19:17 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Hawk720

It would of been easier to take the seat with someone running who voted for Obamacare.


65 posted on 02/09/2011 10:22:52 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Dave W

Allen will be a solid nominee and will defeat Kaine. Kaine has so many pro-BO sound bites as chair of the DNC that he can be defeated handily.


66 posted on 02/09/2011 10:31:53 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Frantzie

I don’t think there is any chance Ken would go that route. I think he’s in the “train of advancement” for governor, in two terms. Although I recently spoke with a well-connected figure in Virginia politics and he told me what the plan was, and I simply can’t remember.

Another name to watch is Corey Stewart, who currently is the Chair of the Prince William County BOS. Another long-shot would be Bob Marshall, who challenged Jim Gilmore in the convention for the 2008 race against Warner, and almost beat him (Gilmore was crushed by Warner of course in the General). But I haven’t seen any indication at this point that Marshall is interested in that, or of moving into a Virginia Senate seat (which I expected he might do, since they only run every 4 years, while delegates run every 2).

There are a lot of names available for this race, so it could be more interesting than is “comfortable”.


67 posted on 02/09/2011 10:34:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hawk720

Biden replacement for the 2012 ticket?


68 posted on 02/09/2011 10:35:06 AM PST by mmanager
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I want to see Al Franken fall. He stole that election from Coleman and that was truly disgusting. I would also like to see Little Debbie Stabenow lose. Didn’t her husband get involved in some scandal????? And then there is that old coot, Frank Lausenberg in New Jersey. The creep manages to make Herman Munster look human.


69 posted on 02/09/2011 10:49:17 AM PST by juliej
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To: Hawk720
The democrat primary should be hilarious.
70 posted on 02/09/2011 10:53:54 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Frantzie

I like Cuccinelli, too. I’ve heard he wants to see his initiatives as Attorney General to the end. I’m interested in learning more about Peter Pace.


71 posted on 02/09/2011 10:53:54 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Hawk720

The polling data is in......


72 posted on 02/09/2011 11:01:51 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Watch Webb challenge Obama. He or Kucinich will try.


73 posted on 02/09/2011 11:02:00 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: xzins; CharlesWayneCT; All

Allen will be the nominee and I will do everything I can to help him win.

Also running are former Tea Party Chair Jamie Radtke and Bishop E.W. Jackson from Chesapeake. Delegate Bob Marshall and Prince William County Chair Corey Stewart are also expected to get in the race. Ken Cuccinelli has said he’s not interested.

The more crowded the race, the better for Allen. Allen has the organization, will have the money.

We original A-Team members can’t wait to get in the fight.


74 posted on 02/09/2011 11:04:35 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Hawk720

Kaine would be about the only Democrat who could hold on to the seat. Even then it’d be a tough fight.


75 posted on 02/09/2011 11:07:30 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Kaine as the nominee would be a gift.

http://www.bearingdrift.com/2011/02/09/dear-democrats-please-nominate-tim-kaine/


76 posted on 02/09/2011 11:09:15 AM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: mmanager
Biden replacement for the 2012 ticket?

It would be a mistake for him.
Unless he wants to roll around with bambi in the mud and get really dirty too.

Don't let them lie to you Jim -Bambi's making Jimmy Carter look good...
77 posted on 02/09/2011 11:12:10 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: OldDeckHand

A potential wrinkle in what we were discussing concerning McDonnell the other day.

It looks like George Allen is already committed to running for the seat, but considering his weakness as a candidate, there might be some pressure on McDonnell from some quarters to run and secure a Republican pickup.


78 posted on 02/09/2011 11:15:31 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: littleharbour

Cantor has only one goal. He wants to become the first Jewish Speaker of the House.


79 posted on 02/09/2011 11:18:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: mmanager
Biden replacement for the 2012 ticket?

Maybe. There might be an outside chance that he's thinking of running against Obama in the primaries. Despite his vote for ObamaCare, he is considered one of the faces of the Blue Dogs, and might be considered more appealing to the left-leaning independents and moderate Democrats who are fed up with Obama.

Not that I think he'd have a chance of beating Obama, mind you - he has absolutely no chance of cracking into the black vote, which means he has no chance of winning. I just think it's plausible that he might run.
80 posted on 02/09/2011 11:30:04 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Frantzie
Ken Cuccinelli. The guy is a conservative rock star.

There's a possibility, though he might be planning to run to succeed McDonnell as Governor in 2013.
81 posted on 02/09/2011 11:35:48 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: Hawk720

OLLIE NORTH


82 posted on 02/09/2011 11:45:29 AM PST by bt579 (Liberals need women dependent and scared so that women, like blacks, will vote Democrat.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Wow! This huge! Although now I expect Jim to vote his conscience and vote along with Harry Reid and the libs on major issues!

IOW, no change from what he's been doing.

83 posted on 02/09/2011 11:52:50 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Hawk720
That bum did enough damage-let him slink into obscurity!
84 posted on 02/09/2011 11:53:09 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
He didn't make a single good vote in the Senate!

He stuck with the Democrat Party with every key vote.

85 posted on 02/09/2011 11:54:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: SeekAndFind
Can someone even tell me what that means and why that destroyed his campaign?

I know it is suppose to have some racial aspect to it, but I don't know it is.

86 posted on 02/09/2011 11:56:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: The Pack Knight
"A potential wrinkle in what we were discussing concerning McDonnell the other day."

I also wonder if Ken Cuccinelli has his eye on that seat, now. I have heard McDonnell say that he isn't interested in the VP slot, and he will absolutely complete his term as governor, and he hadn't expressed any interest in challenging Webb. But, as you elude to, there could be some pressure brought to bear on him.

With respect to Webb, to me, he seemed disinterested in being Senator, almost from the day he was sworn in. Other than the Iraq war and his visible dislike hatred for George Bush, I haven't heard him discuss anything with any real passion, really - with the possible exception to GI Bill improvements he sponsored his first year in office.

87 posted on 02/09/2011 11:56:55 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: bt579

Even if he was interested, North would turn 70 in 2013, a bit too old to start on a Senate career.


88 posted on 02/09/2011 11:59:16 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I hope he does-God will bless us for it!


89 posted on 02/09/2011 11:59:36 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration
"Can someone even tell me what that means and why that destroyed his campaign?"

Macacca is a pejorative term (kind of like the "N"-word) for people of desi nationalities - Southeast Asians.

There was a liberal activist who was following Allen from campaign event to campaign event and videotaping his every move. Allan apparently recognized him, and it was starting to annoy him (Allen). The kid looked Pakistani or Indian. Allen, called him out and referred to him as "Maccaca". Allen would later say he didn't even know what the term meant, which was a bit incredulous. In any event, it went over like a stripper in church in the NoVA area of the state, sealing Allen's fate.

90 posted on 02/09/2011 12:01:40 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
With respect to Webb, to me, he seemed disinterested in being Senator, almost from the day he was sworn in.

Webb also seemed completely detached from voters; he held NO townhalls during the 0bamaCare dustup, very rarely went to glad-hand at public events and it was damned near impossible to get through to his offices. He also strikes me as someone who has the personality of a door knob.

91 posted on 02/09/2011 12:08:27 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: OldDeckHand
Allen, called him out and referred to him as "Maccaca". Allen would later say he didn't even know what the term meant, which was a bit incredulous. In any event, it went over like a stripper in church in the NoVA area of the state, sealing Allen's fate.

Plus... it occurred during a democrat-wave election year (2006), and through it all, still only lost by 9000+ votes. Allen would've cruised to victory were it not for the "macaca" moment. Voters that year were looking for reasons not to vote GOP and he gave them one.

I like Allen, and will definitely support him if he's the nominee, but some fresh blood on the GOP side for that seat would be helpful. I'd recommend Randy Forbes, the Congressional rep from VA-4, or perhaps AG Cuccinelli... but I'd like to see Bob McDonnell pass on this race and complete his term as Governor.

92 posted on 02/09/2011 12:14:59 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Hawk720

So he can spend time writing another novel or several...


93 posted on 02/09/2011 12:18:52 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: mwl8787

Presidential year and the same tide that put Obama in will wash him away.


94 posted on 02/09/2011 12:20:16 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ScottinVA

I think that Cuccinelli should finish his term as AG. Webb was and is a nasty piece of work who was rude to Pres. Bush when he was visiting the White House. Somebody should remind Webb that Bush was his commander in chief. Webb is as phony as a three dollar bill: he allegedly told Obambi that the healthcare bill would be a disaster and yet he voted for it anyway! He can go back to writing porno novels and shopping for new toupees. His current one is a disaster.


95 posted on 02/09/2011 12:21:29 PM PST by juliej
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To: fortheDeclaration

RE: What is a Macaca?

A “macaca” is a racial pejorative to refer to someone either from or with ancestry from India or Pakistan.

And the “macaca effect” is pejorative used by people in high tech to refer to East Indians driving down the wages of American and British workers

It is a sad commentary on our politics and the way people think that the use of one word ( not intended to insult ), overshadows the policies of a politician, but such is life....

Most Americans allow themselves to be affected by charges of racial bias. That makes this card such a great weapon to use ( especially by those who don’t have good policies to present ).


96 posted on 02/09/2011 12:23:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: DarthVader

Lepanto PING !!!


97 posted on 02/09/2011 12:29:59 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: SeekAndFind

After all that, I still don’t know exactly what is a Macaca.


98 posted on 02/09/2011 12:36:10 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: CPT Clay

Hadn’t even looked at it. Pretty unexpected, although I think Allen getting in had a lot to do with Webb getting out.


99 posted on 02/09/2011 12:42:32 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Hawk720

Even though I sold my soul to the party of abortion, homosexual perversity, reckless spending, race baiting, and prevarication, I still demand to be respected and treated like a man!

100 posted on 02/09/2011 1:08:32 PM PST by SkyPilot
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