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Palin: No 'problem' with gay group at CPAC
The Hill ^ | 10 Feb 2011 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 02/10/2011 6:25:57 AM PST by Notary Sojac

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) said Wednesday evening she has no objection to the participation of gay Republicans at this weekend's gathering of conservatives in Washington.

Palin said she didn't see anything wrong with the participation of GOProud, a group of gay Republicans, at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), which runs Thursday through Saturday.

"I don't have a problem with different, diverse groups that are involved in political discourse, and having a convention to talk about what the answers are to their problems that face America," Palin said Wednesday on Fox News when asked about GOProud.

Palin isn't participating in the conference, and she's declined previous invitations, despite CPAC's role as a cattle call for possible Republican presidential candidates.

But other prominent conservatives have said they're skipping the conference. The conservative Heritage Foundation and other socially conservative groups withdrew due to the inclusion of GOProud. And with those groups out, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) followed suit. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) also declined participation, though it's unclear if that decision is linked to GOProud.

Aside from DeMint, though, the other Republicans mulling a run for president are slated to speak or participate at the conference, hoping in part to boost their standing in the closely watched straw poll of attendees.

Palin suggested that conservatives had more important issues to worry about than which groups were attending the conference.

"People are losing their jobs; they're losing homes. We're still engaged in a war," she said. "There are so many life-changing, life-and-death issues out there in front of us. You know, we'd better be concentrating on what is really important here and not going kind of tit-for-tat as people are positioning themselves for 2012."

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KEYWORDS: cpac; freepressforpalin; goproud; homosexualagenda; libertarians; palin; sarahpalin
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To: MEGoody
Gee, Sarah Palin believes in freedom of speech? Who would have thunk it?

I hate to break the news to you so late in life MEGoody (you are an adult aren't you?), but SODOMY is not a form of "speech", it's a deviant behavior.

aSeattleConservative says "buh bye Sarah Palin."

51 posted on 02/10/2011 7:04:37 AM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: bboop
The sodomists can be part and parcel of politics, but when their agenda runs the show, I am bowing out too.

Ditto. They're literally FORCING people to accept their fetishes through litigation. That takes away OUR rights to think and believe as we please. I find their behavior repulsive and unacceptable, so why would I be forced to hire one? Rent to one? Teach their behavior to my kids? Buy or sell from or to them?
Who decided they have the right to dictate what we will tolerate and what we will not tolerate? The politicians collecting the campaign donations for the sake of their own power and privilege? Those who wish to tear the moral fabric apart for the sake of the socialist revolution?
What good have homosexual laws done for anyone other than a handful of sexually dysfunctional people? Why not offer them psychological assistance instead and leave the rest of us out of it?

52 posted on 02/10/2011 7:04:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: altura
"All she has to do is mildly indicate that gays are entitled to life, liberty and happiness and certain heads explode around here.

yep, that seems to be the case.

As much as the gay community in general hates Sarah Palin, this must really irk them!

53 posted on 02/10/2011 7:04:55 AM PST by sweet_diane (Adoption, the beautiful choice!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Gov Palin is correct.

This is not about gays.

It is about that CPAC [ = Obama Republicans] supports
the Islamic invasion, CAIR, Mitt Romney and antiSemitism.


CPAC/ACU/CAIR is run by David Keene
involved in Palin-bashing and Romney-care polishing.

""Palin-bashing CPAC/ACU Chair donated $2,000 to Arlen Specter, endorsed Romney""

""Exclusive: Conservative group offers support for $2M"

""Palin rebuffs CPAC, Keene""

"Washington Insider David Keene Disses Governor Palin, Claims to Speak for Grassroots
"Keene's ACU also puts on the annual CPAC conference in Washington.

.In the last three years CPAC has devolved into nothing more than
an annual love fest for the most established of establishment
Republicans, Mitt Romney. It should come as no surprise that David
Keene supported Mitt Romney in 2008. "


"David Keene Endorses Romney"


"ACU President David Keene Endorses Romney
Long courted by Romney, Keene agreed to formalize his endorsement of
the former governor during a face to face meeting in Florida on
Tuesday, according to knowledgeable sources."


"David A. Keene (born May 20, 1945) is the current chairman of the American
Conservative Union, a position which he has held since 1984. Additionally, he is the
managing associate at the Carmen Group Lobbying, a lobbying firm based in
Washington, D.C. In December 2007, Keene endorsed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. "


"(at CPAC 2010, the) message there was that "real conservatives" don't support the war
on terror because it is a creation of the "Israeli lobby" - which coalesces with the left-
wing's new anti-Semitism against neoconservatives. Karen Kwiatkowski is a darling of
both the leftist Huffington Post and the anti-Semitic paleocon site Antiwar.com.


…is a board member of the ACU, and from the looks of CPAC's
covered topics and omission of discussion of jihad, it looks as if he exerts enormous
influence over David Keene, the ACU's nominal leader. Norquist and his ally Suhail
Khan seem to be in charge at CPAC - no CPAC event goes on that doesn't reflect their perspective. ….
Grover Norquist's troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known
for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of
communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very
active in "Muslim outreach." …..
It was Norquist who ushered these silver-tongued jihadists into the Oval Office after the
worst attack ever on American soil. ….
Grover Norquist was on the jihad payroll before and after the carnage and death of
September 11….
Norquist also introduced Nihad Awad, cofounder and executive director of the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, to President Bush. ….
It is no surprise that CPAC 2010, like CPAC 2009, had nothing addressing the war we
are actually engaged in. This is due to the influence of Norquist, Keene, and Suhail Khan,
a CPAC board member. According to Gaffney, Khan "has repeatedly been a featured
speaker at MSA, ISNA and CAIR events" - that is, Muslim Students Association, Islamic
Society of North America, and Council on American-Islamic Relations, three groups
linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization dedicated to
establishing the rule of Islamic law and the subjugation of infidels worldwide."



CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty - FR

CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty

54 posted on 02/10/2011 7:05:03 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: All

well that was a weasely answer.


55 posted on 02/10/2011 7:05:21 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: techno

American Spectator straw poll of 2012 GOP contenders:

http://spectator.org/polls/2012-feb-straw-poll/

Currently Sarah Palin is at 63.85% and her closest competitor is Herman Cain at 5.05%. Please vote if you haven’t already.


56 posted on 02/10/2011 7:06:17 AM PST by techno
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To: johncocktoasten

I know gays who are prosperous, law abiding, highly educated, pay exorbitant amounts of taxes and are concerned about the direction of the country the same way many on FR are. They don’t wear their sexuality on their sleeve and just want to be able to live and let live.
 
 
How very noble. How very open-minded. Why don't you invite them to become members here at Free Republic?
 
The fact is, they wouldn't last one day if they outed themselves. And not just on the issue of homosexuality, but on the way that perversions skewers other aspects of their political, moral and economic values.
 
They do not want to "live and let live". They have an agenda and it's driven by the immoral illness that infects their heart and soul.

57 posted on 02/10/2011 7:07:00 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: r9etb
Some of the Freepers who go ballistic about teh faggots and want to bring back the death penalty for sodomy are also among the biggest Palin cheerleaders.

I believe they are going to find that Palin is MUCH more libertarian than they would like.

I won't ping them to this thread, but they will discover the disconnect sooner or later as the campaign goes on.

58 posted on 02/10/2011 7:07:17 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

the DC whisper is that Obama has a second term in the bag.


59 posted on 02/10/2011 7:08:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: indylindy

More indylindy nonsense. I suppose in your world, social conservatism’s governmental goal is to ostracize, exclude, and inter people who have had abortion or are gay. The FEDERAL government’s job is to stay out of these issues and allow states to handle them. Too many people want the US President to be the church pastor and spiritual leader, enforcing their morality with the force of law. I want the Feds out of it. The state of Georgia can handle their morals just fine thanks.

Others who support federalism are our friends, regardless of sexual orientation.


60 posted on 02/10/2011 7:09:34 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: techno

Sarah Palin is a Constitutionalist but also a libertarian and a social conservative.

______________________________________

Right. And Obama is a good Muslim man with strong Christian values.

You need a basic refresher course in Politics 101.


61 posted on 02/10/2011 7:10:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: altura; Responsibility2nd
Christopher Barron, GOProud Chairman of the Board: "We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people." Aug 4, 2010; 4:04pm
62 posted on 02/10/2011 7:11:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: aSeattleConservative
aSeattleConservative says "buh bye Sarah Palin."

Agreed if this is her stand. She has no problem letting a sick camel into the tent. That's what got this country into the mess it's in today. She's trying to stay in a "safe" zone rather than stand up to political correctness (propaganda designed to silence people from speaking out against any left wing special interest group).

63 posted on 02/10/2011 7:11:58 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: johncocktoasten

goproud is just a cover for the log cabin sex group. And the name was changed after it was revealed the homosexuals were being funded by democrats. This CPAC infestation in nothing more than a confrontation tactice to divide conservative into a mythical social and fiscal.

the homosexual leaders of these groups have admitted this. Any presence of these moles is a distraction and creates the ILLUSION that CPAC is dominated by homosexuals and their enablers.


64 posted on 02/10/2011 7:12:14 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Yaelle
When are Freepers going to be fair to gay People

Hey Yaelle, no Freeper has a duty to be fair. If John Q. Freeper wants to devote a three page post to the topic "God hates sodomites" that's pretty much the way it is.

65 posted on 02/10/2011 7:12:45 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; little jeremiah; central_va; metmom

Intersting thread. Pro-gay and pro-abort comments everywhere.

Subtle comments. But obvious none-the-less.


66 posted on 02/10/2011 7:12:59 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: concerned about politics
Sooo you would like to take away CPAC freedom of association? CPAC is a organization and has the freedom to invite whoever they want. If like me you don't agree with who they invite don't go, don't send them money and don't listen to their speeches. Screw CPAC I have that freedom to not associate with CPAC and to say that CPAC does not speak for me. they have the freedom to inivte whoever they wish.

the only way to solve this issue is to allow freedom of association, to get rid of the thoughtcrimes

67 posted on 02/10/2011 7:14:08 AM PST by unseen1
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To: johncocktoasten; All

Amen...


68 posted on 02/10/2011 7:14:46 AM PST by KevinDavis (If you buy a car from GM, you are supporting Obama..)
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To: johncocktoasten
The FEDERAL government’s job is to stay out of these issues and allow states to handle them.

Absolutely correct, sir!!

69 posted on 02/10/2011 7:14:47 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: aSeattleConservative
I hate to break the news to you so late in life MEGoody (you are an adult aren't you?), but SODOMY is not a form of "speech", it's a deviant behavior.

However, participation in CPAC is a form of "speech". You DO support freedom of speech, right?

70 posted on 02/10/2011 7:15:58 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: aSeattleConservative

Seattle Christian, just a real quick question....If Jesus was here today,would he most likely be at a pot luck at your church or hanging out with friends at a HIV clinic in Seattle? Not mocking you but a sincere question? Tell me, if you were in Palin’s position, how would you specifically address a group of homosexuals (which anyone that defines their identities by how they use their sexual organs is rather odd) that are wanting to be involved in the political process. I am curious how you answer that?


71 posted on 02/10/2011 7:16:04 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Responsibility2nd

See the last line of post 58. Thanks for saving me the work!


72 posted on 02/10/2011 7:16:20 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Responsibility2nd; wagglebee; little jeremiah; central_va; metmom
Yes. And there will be more purges. Makes one wonder if ANY of them have even read this.

Who reads FR? How many accounts on FR? What does FR stand for? Where is FR going?

As an organization, we cannot be both for and against homosexuality, abortion, big government, border and national security, etc. I don't know about others, but if we must choose, I choose to be on the right side of each and every issue. Why should FR use its limited resources to allow liberals, homosexualists, abortionists, big spenders, big taxers, big government solutions advocates, gun grabbers, pacifists, isolationists, environmentalists, open-borders lobbyists, etc, ply their trade on FR? Well, more and more lately, we don't. And, apparently, that has pissed off a lot of big tent, true blue RINO types and the herd is stampeding. Let them go.

73 posted on 02/10/2011 7:17:27 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Walkingfeather

You have no idea what a can of worms you’ve just opened.


74 posted on 02/10/2011 7:17:27 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Notary Sojac

Some people really make me laugh - they scream that they are for smaller govt - yet are all too eager to get the govt involved in our personal lives.

How about the Govt get out of our personal lives, our wallets, our tv, our radio etc altogether?


75 posted on 02/10/2011 7:17:50 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: techno

FEDERALISM!!!!!!!!!

Long live the FEDERALISTS!!!!!!!!!

If you want Church of The United States led by Pastor/President Huckleberry, go for it. We will be the same level as religious regimes in the Islamic world. I will write in palin and push for my state to secede.


76 posted on 02/10/2011 7:17:57 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
A link to their agenda for government...

http://www.goproud.org.php5-12.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/federal-legislative-priorities/

77 posted on 02/10/2011 7:19:21 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: indylindy
There are some very real obsessions obvious on this forum

Cops, unions, just to name two more, there are others. It's fine to voice an opinion but you are right, certain people do get obsessive on certain subjects.

4 or 5 years ago, I noticed a poster, I don't remember his name, haven't seen his singular comment in a long time. Every thread that had the word union in it, he would comment, " I hate unions". I checked his posting history back then and about 80% of his comments consisted of, "I hate unions". Now it's just fine if someone "hates unions" but when one has a need to make that same comment day in and day out, that's an obsession.

Another posts every anti cop article he can find, he is sporadic about it though, he'll go for days without posting one and then several more days plastering the place with them. Again, allow me to say, if you have a thing against cops, that's cool. Must one be so obsessive about it?

Yes, I'm aware that I don't have to click on the articles and I can assure you that I don't. Just pointing out to you that there are obsessive/compulsives here.

Some posters are "anti", they live to post negative answers, no matter what someone else says. 'It's colder than a well diggers butt here in central Illinois today". Answer - "Well, define, well diggers butt!", Whatta ya mean cold? what the heck do you call cold?"

78 posted on 02/10/2011 7:20:00 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Huck

It’s a wonderful word, isn’t it? It’s been around for a long time. A perfect description of how politicians talk.


79 posted on 02/10/2011 7:20:33 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Responsibility2nd

No she isn’t moving to the Left. She’s always held a more libertarian view on some of these matters. It’s just she’s been branded the ULTIMATE RIGHT WING EXTEMIST by the media so people unaware of her record prior to selection as McCain’s VEEP mate are surprised. It’s one of the reasons she’s never been fully embraced by the social conservative wing and why they have always favored Huckabee. Although I don’t know if his view is substantially different then hers, he does talk a better social conservative game.

It doesn’t affect my view of her since I knew this about her previously. Just as I knew her position on drugs. My issue with her statement is that CPAC should be a debating club with conservatives okay with entering hostile territory. I thought it was to be a likeminded re-affirmation of conservative values. She is 100% wrong on what it’s intended purpose was to be. That’s okay though, Keene has been running into the ground for several years and the exodus of conservative groups from the forum will evnentually collapse it’s import.


80 posted on 02/10/2011 7:21:16 AM PST by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: Graybeard58

It’s pretty easy to look at history and discover which posters are tunnel-visioned on one issue to the exclusion of anything else. Those are the posters I am most likely to ignore.


81 posted on 02/10/2011 7:22:12 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Notary Sojac

The media thrives on dividing America for their profits, while Hollywood thrives on corrupting it for their profits.

Social issues are used by the media to incense while keeping the minds of the American masses deflected from the real problem, which are the thieves who are in the process of plucking and plundering us.

We just saw trillions of our money disappear and go into the hands of the same few on Wall St. who played a big part in bringing our economy down. The Fed won’t even tell us where OUR money went.


82 posted on 02/10/2011 7:23:08 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest non-corrupt government for the people, not just government for corporatists)
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To: HappyWarrior2012
Difference between Daniels and Palin, no ONE questions Palin’s social conservatism.

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Well, that and the fact that Daniels never quit his elected position.

83 posted on 02/10/2011 7:23:17 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: johncocktoasten

Others who support federalism are our friends, regardless of sexual orientation.

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WRONG. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Obama supports federalism. He says he does. So is he our friend? Look. If you want to open conservatism up to the fags with their agenda, then you are in the wrong place. I suggest you click here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/


84 posted on 02/10/2011 7:23:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: concerned about politics
Agreed if this is her stand. She has no problem letting a sick camel into the tent. That's what got this country into the mess it's in today. She's trying to stay in a "safe" zone rather than stand up to political correctness (propaganda designed to silence people from speaking out against any left wing special interest group).

It appears that Palin has put her finger to the "political wind" and has seen how America deals with the subject of homosexuality. For many who call themselves Christian, it's really no big deal to them, as long as it's a "consensual relationship".

May God have mercy on her sold out soul; I sure won't when it comes to election time.

85 posted on 02/10/2011 7:24:23 AM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: Responsibility2nd

None of it is the Federal Government’s business. Conservatives who want their values legislated/adjudicated federally belong in the same bucket with liberals. All fighting over the prize of command and control central government.

Your religion is YOUR business just as mine is. Neither of ours or theirs belongs in federal government.


86 posted on 02/10/2011 7:25:43 AM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: altura
The obsession with gays on this forum is scary.

I agree. Are there a lot of closet cases over-reacting here? It's a subject very rarely discussed with my friends and acquaintances but discussed multiple times daily on FR.

But what should be expected from people who think homosexuality is determined by hair length or marriage to a member of the opposite sex, or the third son of Catholic families.

87 posted on 02/10/2011 7:26:51 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Notary Sojac; johncocktoasten
The FEDERAL government’s job is to stay out of these issues and allow states to handle them.

Absolutely correct, sir!!

 
 
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Wrong. Absolutely incorrect. The Federal Government is and always has been in the business of setting moral and social agendas for America. And they are doing a crappy job of it due to liberals and RINO's who have these "live and let live" ideals


88 posted on 02/10/2011 7:27:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: johncocktoasten; indylindy; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; ...
I suppose in your world, social conservatism’s governmental goal is to ostracize, exclude, and inter people who have had abortion or are gay. The FEDERAL government’s job is to stay out of these issues and allow states to handle them. Too many people want the US President to be the church pastor and spiritual leader, enforcing their morality with the force of law. I want the Feds out of it. The state of Georgia can handle their morals just fine thanks.

Others who support federalism are our friends, regardless of sexual orientation.

You don't have a clue what federalism is, then again liberaltarians never do.

Under your theory, a state would be permitted to legalize murder, rape or even terrorism and there is nothing the federal government can do.

Are you aware that ALL of the Founding Fathers believed that abortion was murder and as such was a capital offense?

They also all believed that sodomy was a serious crime and in some cases warranted the death penalty.

I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as "enlightened" as moral relativists like you.

Your brand of "federalism" is DESTROYING the United States. You ARE NOT a conservative and you have no business being on a conservative forum. Begone troll!

89 posted on 02/10/2011 7:27:42 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So, sorry Sarah! You’ve just voted yourself off the island!


90 posted on 02/10/2011 7:28:43 AM PST by sand lake bar
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To: concerned about politics
GoProuds positions:
1) Taxes?
2) Government Spending -? When it concerns helping the homosexual agenda -spend spend spend
3) Abortion - Filthy breeders anyway go for it! Unless I want one of your kids.
4) War on Terror - ? Send me to that cool Pashtun region, I'd like some of that entertainment.
5) Marriage - as long as 2 guys can marry I'm all for families.
6) religious freedom - the freedom to keep you from espousing the Biblical view on homosexuality is great!
7) parental rights - as long as I can have your kids too I'm all for em!
8) freedom of association - as long as I can force you to accept me and even support my actions, everywhere, all the time, especially while I make sure you know what I do in the bedroom!
9) private property rights - sure I'm all for those too as long as you can't refuse to let me live in your house if you're renting a room even if I my sexual preferences are on full proud display.

That is what I can see with my own eyes and the core of why they are not conservative. As far as Sarah, she is being a total politician, not in a good sense. Yes Goproud has a right to be there, but should they? We also do have a right to free association, do we not? (It's not totally gone YET) Who runs CPAC? Obviously not conservatives.

The homosexual agenda IS a major political issue because it is foundational to the future of our country. The way someone believes on that issue determines many other things.

91 posted on 02/10/2011 7:28:55 AM PST by glassylassie
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To: johncocktoasten
More cocktoasten schmooze speaking for other people as though he knows them.

I know gays. I don't care what they do in their personal life because they don't tell me about it, nor do they force me to learn that it is quite normal, which is what gay activists want to do in the schools.

Your remark about interring a person who had an abortion is a flat out lie and slander. I wonder if these gays also support federalism when it comes to abortion? Is abortion an issue for Federalism, or is life a basic human right?

You prove that remark because it is really low down.

The governments job IS to stay out of these issues. But you see the GOP has chosen to INSERT itself on these issues.

I have no problem with gays being in the party. They are people. I don't care to know their sexual preference, nor do I feel they should be denied any rights that I have with the exception of marriage. That is a sacrament between a man and a woman.

I will be waiting for you to post where I ever said anything about jailing a person who had an abortion. You should back that up or apologize.

92 posted on 02/10/2011 7:29:33 AM PST by dforest
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To: unseen1
Sooo you would like to take away CPAC freedom of association?

Nope. I'm just saying those who are against thought control should also be against CPAC. It appears CPAC is a supporter.

There is no tolerance for homosexuals. The sheeple have been forced into learned helplessness via fear of litigation. Do parents REALLY want their 6 year olds to learn about this behavior? No, they don't, but their kids are getting it anyway. Do they REALLY want to hire some faggy girlie man at the front desk? No, but the new laws say they HAVE to. If I don't want to rent to one, why should I? Who decided we must "tolerate" their behavior? Who said we MUST accept their kinky behaviors? Who said?

If I peed my pants in public every day and sucked them dry, should my behavior be taught to children in the name of "equality" or "tolerance?" If I liked doing it, why wouldn't they be forced to tolerate it in the schools? Maybe they should be taught how to pee themselves as well? Where would be my "tolerance?"

93 posted on 02/10/2011 7:29:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: techno
Her social conservative credentials are impeccable because of her pro-life stance and her personal relationship with Christ.

Are you saying that person can't be a real social conservative unless he or she has a "personal relationship with Christ?" If so, then no wonder Jews overwhelmingly vote with the RATs.

94 posted on 02/10/2011 7:31:03 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: PetroniusMaximus; altura
The gay’s obsession with reshaping our culture is scary.

Ding ding ding. IMHO, this is the reason that the conservative movement is fundamentally incompatible with a 'gay' group within it. Conservatives don't label themselves with an adjective. You're either a plain conservative or you're not. The sole reason for the existence of GOProud is to push their agenda, which is diametrically opposed to one of the three legs of the conservative stool. Listen to the GOProud (really?!) Board chair's statement on the debate over their sponsorship and recognition at CPAC:

But Christopher Barron, chairman of GOProud‘s board, said the boycott has been “a complete and total unmitigated disaster for the boycotters.”

“These are people who have been treated like clowns for years,” he said. “They’re not relevant, they haven’t been relevant, and it’s a disservice to the conservative movement to pretend that their boycott, their non-participation, is somehow symptomatic of a wider split in the conservative movement.”

See, they are already presuming to speak for the entire 'conservative movement'.

95 posted on 02/10/2011 7:31:09 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Notary Sojac

I believe they are going to find that Palin is MUCH more libertarian than they would like.

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I hope and pray you are wrong on this one. I’d sooner vote for Huckabee than a libertarian


96 posted on 02/10/2011 7:31:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: johncocktoasten
Identity politics is not a Conservative idea as it gives the group more influence than individual voices. GOProuds only agenda is the homosexual one. Their identity is SOLELY based on their manner of sexual activity. It IS their identity. They intend to change America and force that change through political pressure and the courts.

GOProud Federal Legislative Priorities

1 – TAX REFORM - We support replacing the current tax code with the Fair Tax. Until then, we support death tax repeal; domestic partner tax equity; cuts in the capital gains and corporate tax rates to jump start our economy and create jobs; a fairer, flatter and substantially simpler tax code.

2 – HEALTHCARE REFORM – Free market healthcare reform. Allow for the purchase of insurance across state lines – expanding access to domestic partner benefits; emphasizing individual ownership of healthcare insurance – such a shift would prevent discriminatory practices by an employer or the government.

3 – SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - The only way to permanent solvency in the Social Security system is through the creation of inheritable personal savings accounts. Personal savings accounts would give gay and lesbian couples the same opportunity to leave their accounts to their spouses as their straight counterparts.

6 – FIGHTING GLOBAL EXTREMISTS – Standing strong against radical regimes that refuse to recognize the basic human rights of gays and lesbians, women and religious minorities.

7 – DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION – Opposing any anti-gay federal marriage amendment. Marriage should be a question for the states. A federal constitutional amendment on marriage would be an unprecedented federal power grab from the states.

8 – ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP – Package of free market reforms to encourage and support small businesses and entrepreneurship. Such reforms would create jobs for all Americans – including gay Americans.

And lest you be fooled by the inclusions:

Christopher Barron, GOProud Chairman of the Board: "We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people." Aug 4, 2010; 4:04pm

97 posted on 02/10/2011 7:33:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: MEGoody
However, participation in CPAC is a form of "speech". You DO support freedom of speech, right?

Where have I heard those words before?

ACLU Statement on Defending Free Speech of Unpopular Organizations

August 31, 2000
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

NEW YORK--In the United States Supreme Court over the past few years, the American Civil Liberties Union has taken the side of a fundamentalist Christian church, a Santerian church, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness. In celebrated cases, the ACLU has stood up for everyone from Oliver North to the National Socialist Party. In spite of all that, the ACLU has never advocated Christianity, ritual animal sacrifice, trading arms for hostages or genocide. In representing NAMBLA today, our Massachusetts affiliate does not advocate sexual relationships between adults and children. What the ACLU does advocate is robust freedom of speech for everyone. The lawsuit involved here, were it to succeed, would strike at the heart of freedom of speech. Link to ACLU and "robust" freedom of speech

I forgot, with child molestation "consent" isn't used. That's what your morality is based on, right?

At least throw the word "robust" in when you're talking about moral degenerates and their supposed "right" to speak freely.

98 posted on 02/10/2011 7:34:31 AM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: Notary Sojac

Of course I do. I am Extremely conservative in my spiritual beliefs. Far more than most as I sense. This question came to my mind a few years back. If one is honest then that naturally leads to the next question.... Is my faith more like Jesus, or the Pharisee’s? Which then leads to the Next question, what was Jesus’ reaction to the Pharisees teaching? Which leads naturally to ask yourself, “Do I want to be on the receiving end of that?” Which then leads to “ If I am more pharisitical in whom I believe God to be, then Do I really know Who he really is at the core of his Character?”
One of the people that Dramatically changed my understanding of God’s character is a guy named Graham Cooke, (check him out on you tube)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIemlZsu-Ig. You will listen and go..... I have never heard this before, but I know in the core of my Spirit what he saying is true. Rocked my entire world.


99 posted on 02/10/2011 7:37:19 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Soul Seeker

I posted Reply # 96 before I read your comments.

See # 96. It applies to your comments also.

This is the very first time anywhere I’ve read comments suggesting Palin may be a lib (libertarian).

Maybe it’s a knee-jerk reaction to this thread and her ‘soft’ answer to gays at CPAC.

Conservatives will (and should) throw her under the bus if she goes libertarian on us.


100 posted on 02/10/2011 7:37:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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