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Ohio Senate Republicans move to wipe out collective bargaining for all state workers
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 2/14/11 | Jim Seigel

Posted on 02/14/2011 10:31:00 AM PST by Mikey_1962

Arguing that state and local governments need the ability to adjust to the new economic paradigm, Senate Republicans today unveiled details of the most sweeping attempt in 27 years to limit the power of public unions to negotiate terms of employment.

The measure attracted a large group of union supporters to the Statehouse. The crowd inside spilled into the atrium, where a sound system was set up so they could hear testimony. Outside, several protestors clad in yellow shirts and carrying signs that urged a no vote demonstrated on the sidewalk.

The stakes are huge.

Collective bargaining would be wiped out for all state workers, including those at institutions of higher education. Local police officers and fire fighters who cannot strike would see weakened binding arbitration. Local workers would no longer bargain for health insurance, automatic pay increases would be stripped from state law, and teachers would not get a say in which buildings they teach in. While Sen. Shannon Jones, R-Spingboro, insists she is not trying to punish state workers, her Senate Bill 5 is expected to ignite a war with the unions the likes of which this state has not seen in decades.

"I believe the vast majority of government workers are good people who work hard every day," she said. "But I don't think that everybody, by virtue of showing up every day, should be entitled to the same increase in salary."

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Proposals in the bill:

State workers

Eliminates collective bargaining for state workers, including higher education employees. Requires the Department of Administrative Services to develop a merit-based system of pay.

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: ohio
A good start.....
1 posted on 02/14/2011 10:31:03 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: Mikey_1962

Long overdue. No need to unionize “state” workers if they’re on the public dole. And it’s dangerous besides. Very dangerous.


2 posted on 02/14/2011 10:32:33 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Mikey_1962

Collectivists vs Taxpayers, and so it begins.

Pray for Americans


3 posted on 02/14/2011 10:38:02 AM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: Mikey_1962
What a wonderful example to set for the other States..
Could along with other changes make Ohio's economy a blockbuster..
This is GOOD NEWS that it is even being proposed..
4 posted on 02/14/2011 10:38:24 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Mikey_1962

Don’t get too excited. It’s likely that some communist Federal Judge will strike this down on orders from Barry.


5 posted on 02/14/2011 10:39:00 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Mikey_1962
Requires the Department of Administrative Services to develop a cronymerit-based system of pay.
6 posted on 02/14/2011 10:42:25 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: hosepipe

Mitch Daniels did this within 3 weeks of taking over the Governorship here in IN.

he removed the requirement they join a union, and within a few short years, practically all of those affected opted out of their union and their dues.

And they workers still have a secure job with bennies.


7 posted on 02/14/2011 10:43:45 AM PST by digger48
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To: Mikey_1962

Excellent! Ohio FReepers might want to pick up a few fire extinguisers and extra ammo...


8 posted on 02/14/2011 10:43:56 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Mikey_1962
Stop the merry-go-round of unions spending to elect lib politicians who then vote increases for unions who then spend to elect lib politicians who then vote increases for unions...ad infinitum.
9 posted on 02/14/2011 10:45:53 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: hosepipe

I guess I was wrong on the dates and time....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Daniels

on his first day in office, he decertified all government employee unions, removing the requirement that State employees be union members; and, within eight months, 92% of government union members quit their union.[22]


10 posted on 02/14/2011 10:46:03 AM PST by digger48
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To: Mikey_1962

I don’t like unions, but merit pay has its problems too. If you don’t kiss up, don’t play the bureaucratic game, aren’t registered to vote the right way...you can forget any raise.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 10:46:56 AM PST by ryderann
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To: Mikey_1962

BUMP for excellence.


12 posted on 02/14/2011 10:48:50 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mikey_1962

Good on Ohio!

Well done!


13 posted on 02/14/2011 10:49:06 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: digger48
Mitch Daniels did this within 3 weeks of taking over the Governorship here in IN

Another good reason to like Daniels. He seems to be leading the way in a lot of reforms.

14 posted on 02/14/2011 10:51:32 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mikey_1962
We all belong to the biggest union there is...The Department of Labor. Try doing anything wrong to an employee that the DOL hasn't got covered.

And we are all paying union dues to the DOL already.

15 posted on 02/14/2011 10:53:18 AM PST by IrishPennant (Obama - as big a lie as the number 4 on a roman numeral clock face...and so few bother to notice!)
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To: Mikey_1962

Wisconsin, also. National Guard will be called out there if there is trouble from state workers.


16 posted on 02/14/2011 10:55:16 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Mikey_1962
John Galt is Coming!



Who is John Galt click here.


It is coming on April 15, 2011. Click here for the trailer.



Run Sarah Run!

.


17 posted on 02/14/2011 11:04:12 AM PST by B-Cause (Great crises do not make men, they reveal them.)
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To: ridesthemiles; Mikey_1962; Diana in Wisconsin; afraidfortherepublic

Good news bump!


18 posted on 02/14/2011 11:08:44 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: JPG

There is an inherent conflict of interest in “government employee unions”.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 11:11:12 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Unions are good only for the owners of the union
and the the sorriest workers in the union.

A good knowledge worker has no need for a union.

20 posted on 02/14/2011 11:11:27 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Mikey_1962
Wisconsin National Guard Preps For Worker Unrest After Governor Unveils Emergency Budget
21 posted on 02/14/2011 11:15:03 AM PST by blam
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To: bigbob

Great!

Now if we Feds get the same treatment...oh, and merit only based promotions and raises....

and firings!


22 posted on 02/14/2011 11:15:49 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: Mikey_1962
Kentucky Senate Votes To End Guaranteed Pensions
23 posted on 02/14/2011 11:19:11 AM PST by blam
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To: Mikey_1962

State Employee should be, “Employees at Will”. There should be language to protect from patronage and benefits that reflect those in the private sector, other than that Nada.


24 posted on 02/14/2011 11:27:23 AM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: bray

“Collectivists vs Taxpayers” ~ bray

Precisely.


25 posted on 02/14/2011 11:29:01 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Mikey_1962

All states right to work states
No compulsory union dues or fees
Starve the marxists plitical apparatus


26 posted on 02/14/2011 11:31:57 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

Awesome! Shock and awe!


27 posted on 02/14/2011 11:38:30 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Mikey_1962

Unions of government employees should not be allowed. These unions use political power to bypass the real employers i.e. the public by use of coersion on another level of government employees i.e. politicians to milk the real employer i.e. the public. The argument that union members are also part of the public is nonsense when government unions become self serving. Most union leaders get their positions by mouth and intimidation.


28 posted on 02/14/2011 11:52:21 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Mikey_1962

Unions of government employees should not be allowed. These unions use political power to bypass the real employers i.e. the public by use of coersion on another level of government employees i.e. politicians to milk the real employer i.e. the public. The argument that union members are also part of the public is nonsense when government unions become self serving. Most union leaders get their positions by mouth and intimidation.


29 posted on 02/14/2011 11:52:44 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Mikey_1962

mikey you are right! It’s a good start. The next step is to pass Right to Work laws in Ohio.


30 posted on 02/14/2011 12:23:02 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (At DiDi's Used Guns, if we can't kill it, it's immortal - DiDi Snavely, Proprietor)
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To: Mikey_1962

This is not what it appears.
What they are talking about here, if you look at the legislation is keeping everyone in a union controlled by the state. The state wants to take the dues and “invest” the money as it sees fit. Then take the proceeds and spend them as they see fit.

This is not the end of a union but a government run one that is not even remotely under the control of the people in it.

A VERY dangerous step in the wrong direction


31 posted on 02/14/2011 12:40:28 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Mikey_1962

No big deal, but the date of this article is Feb.9, not Feb. 14. Just a fyi.


32 posted on 02/14/2011 3:53:40 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Psalm 144 for the link.


33 posted on 02/17/2011 6:03:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: ryderann
I don’t like unions, but merit pay has its problems too. If you don’t kiss up, don’t play the bureaucratic game, aren’t registered to vote the right way...you can forget any raise.

Welcome to the private sector. That's called human nature, aka life.

34 posted on 02/17/2011 7:32:19 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Munz
What they are talking about here, if you look at the legislation is keeping everyone in a union controlled by the state.

NOT TRUE. Kasich's proposal has required annual union elections. If the members want to decertify, they have the chance once a year.

BTW I live in Ohio.

35 posted on 02/17/2011 7:36:10 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

All I am saying is I encourage everyone to make sure that they read the bills. Illinois recently submitted one as well.
It turns every union into a state run program where the state is controlling not only the unions, but the funds to spend as they see fit.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to find that in years down the road, Unions were turned into government piggy banks to pay for pork while the people who work get nothing.


36 posted on 02/18/2011 1:21:53 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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