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Scott Walker vs. Public Sector Unions
The Weekly Standard ^ | February 18, 2011 | STEPHEN F. HAYES

Posted on 02/18/2011 1:45:01 AM PST by Scanian

When Wisconsin governor Scott Walker looked out the window of his office at the Capitol in Madison Wednesday he saw more than 10,000 people gathered to protest his decision to require public employees to contribute more to their pensions and health care. Walker says he’s not surprised that the proposed changes have generated such a ferocious response. “You’re messing with the way people make their living,” he said Wednesday in a phone interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD. “It’s understandable they’ll be upset.”

But Walker is unapologetic. These are difficult times. Wisconsin is facing a budget crisis. And there have to be cuts. Walker believes the changes he’s proposing are relatively modest. “I’m asking them to contribute 5.8 percent of their salary to their pension – right about the national average for contributions. And I’m asking them to pay 12 percent of their health care premiums – up from 6 percent. The national average is around 25 percent."

So Wisconsin’s public employees will still have benefit plans more generous than most workers across the country. And these steps are being taken with the express purpose of avoiding major layoffs and dramatic paycuts. But the unions don't like it.

Walker's reforms are unacceptable to protestors, many of whom are teachers participating in a “sickout” so that they can attend rallies against Walker’s proposals. And that’s ironic. According to the state of Wisconsin, the average teacher salary in Wisconsin is $49,093 annually. (With benefits, the average total compensation is $77,857.) With 190 school days per year, Wisconsin public education employees make about $258 per day. So in an effort to avoid contributing to their own pensions and funding 6 percent more of their own health care premiums, teachers have taken unpaid leave to protest and have given up nearly $500 – so far.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: cuts; protests; states; unions; wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 02/18/2011 1:45:07 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
"I don't know." Another student said: "We're trying to stop whatever this dude is doing."

Educated children are every bit as important to the NEA as quality autos are to the UAW.

2 posted on 02/18/2011 1:53:10 AM PST by Jacquerie (Don’t worry, Death Panels are only for Conservatives.)
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To: Scanian

So in an effort to avoid contributing to their own pensions and funding 6 percent more of their own health care premiums, teachers have taken unpaid leave to protest and have given up nearly $500 – so far.

Hahaha. That’s called cutting off your nose to spite
your face.


3 posted on 02/18/2011 2:00:25 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Scanian

Why do we allow Public Unions?


4 posted on 02/18/2011 2:04:02 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Scanian

Go Scott Go....


5 posted on 02/18/2011 2:29:16 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Scanian

Stay strong Scott. You have the majority support.


6 posted on 02/18/2011 2:50:11 AM PST by bronxville
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To: Scanian
cows
7 posted on 02/18/2011 2:54:11 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Scanian

Why should government employees enjoy such benefits on the backs of taxpayers who do not, their jobs are cush, they produce no product, they are not held accountable to a standard that is measured by independents,let them see reality..


8 posted on 02/18/2011 3:01:35 AM PST by aces
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To: Jacquerie

“We’re trying to stop whatever this dude is doing.”

The dude is only doing what he campaigned on and was elected to do. A voter majority approved these actions.

Many of these protesters are from out of state. and should be sent packing.


9 posted on 02/18/2011 3:08:12 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: bronxville

Where is the Tea Party?


10 posted on 02/18/2011 3:09:01 AM PST by Average Al
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To: Average Al

Excellent point.


11 posted on 02/18/2011 3:10:08 AM PST by bronxville
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To: Average Al

I had just posted my response to you and this popped up -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2675712/posts

Great minds...I mean yours... :)


12 posted on 02/18/2011 3:12:14 AM PST by bronxville
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To: bronxville
The Governor should have asked for Tea Party support to get this vote accomplished.
13 posted on 02/18/2011 3:14:00 AM PST by Average Al
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To: Average Al
Where is the Tea Party?

Huh? What should the Tea Party be doing: Standing guard over the capital building?

14 posted on 02/18/2011 3:14:32 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: raybbr

YES! How in do you expect this to pass without positive support!


15 posted on 02/18/2011 3:17:07 AM PST by Average Al
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To: Scanian
10,000 have been stopped before ...
16 posted on 02/18/2011 3:17:36 AM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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To: Average Al

It would have made him appear weak. It’s better this way...I hope they get a large crowd since they don’t have school kids to exploit.


17 posted on 02/18/2011 3:20:08 AM PST by bronxville
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To: bronxville

I hope you are right....but in liberal states like WI, there are too many people who will view the conflict as “working people fighting for their rights” and, if the battle drags on, citizens will start feeling sympathy for the unions, even if it is to their fianancial detriment to do so.


18 posted on 02/18/2011 3:21:00 AM PST by Scanian
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To: bronxville

Are the kids actually in school today? I heard the kids were figuring out they will have to make these days up.


19 posted on 02/18/2011 3:25:08 AM PST by Average Al
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To: aces

Because they CAN.

They don’t have to negotiate with business owners who feel the pinch of making concessions to unions. They negotiate with politicians and/or bureaucrats who have no personal skin in the game.

Any proposed contracts should go to a public referendum so that the state’s “owners” can have the final say.


20 posted on 02/18/2011 3:25:32 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

There is where the gov needs to go on tv w pie charts, and lay out the facts on this.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 3:28:35 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I agree...Republicans and conservatives do a very poor job of using the media, either because of the costs involved or because some stations and networks won’t sell them time.


22 posted on 02/18/2011 3:32:35 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Unfortunately, this is a fight which must be fought and won against the public employee unions. There is a reality that cannot be reversed. The states are becoming financially insolvent.

Wisconsin is a rerun of Greece.

The party is over and the money is gone.

The governor of Wisconsin is delivering the grim truth that many don't want to here.

23 posted on 02/18/2011 3:36:29 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: Scanian

Say what ypu want about perot - but he very effectively got his message across with his presentations. We need something like that.

Just these maddoffian pensions alone should have all taxpayers up in arms.


24 posted on 02/18/2011 3:49:42 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Actually, I was thinking of him when I made that comme


25 posted on 02/18/2011 3:54:13 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

And the US Congress ignored 250,000+ citizens/taxpayers who assembled in DC last year—What’s the point?


26 posted on 02/18/2011 4:16:57 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: ROTB

OK, I give. What is it? The Battle of Tours? The 300?


27 posted on 02/18/2011 4:49:11 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m guessing Lord of the Rings/Helms Deep.


28 posted on 02/18/2011 4:55:42 AM PST by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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To: Jacquerie
Educated children are every bit as important to the NEA as quality autos are to the UAW.

Outstanding!
29 posted on 02/18/2011 5:35:02 AM PST by Kegger
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To: Jacquerie
The "articulate" youth in question is demonstrating why homeschooled kids are so "dangerous" to the Agenda of the left.

Young people of the caliber of those produced by homeschooling intellectually and rhetorically blow away kids like those quoted.

30 posted on 02/18/2011 5:37:22 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Scanian
What’s more, Wisconsin teachers pay as much as $1100 each year in compulsory union dues. If the legislation passes, they will no longer be required to pay thosee dues – returning that money to their own pockets.

I think I see the issue here.

31 posted on 02/18/2011 5:39:56 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That pic is from the 2nd LOTR movie.

I forgot about the “300” at Thermopylae.


32 posted on 02/18/2011 11:31:17 AM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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