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Wisconsin: Head of state's largest union offers concession
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal ^ | 2/18/11 | Jason Stein, Patrick Marley and Bill Glauber

Posted on 02/18/2011 2:39:28 PM PST by Jean S

Madison — The head of the largest state workers union said Friday that his group is willing to give in to Gov. Scott Walker's demand for concessions on their benefits if the governor gives up his bid to repeal nearly all bargaining rights for public worker unions.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: walker; wi; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 02/18/2011 2:39:30 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Stand fast gov, tell them to pound snow.


2 posted on 02/18/2011 2:41:04 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Jean S

The best part of Scott Walker’s reforms will be to see Marty Beill lose his $148,000 per year job. Once the state stops collecting the dues, it’s over for Marty and crowd.


3 posted on 02/18/2011 2:41:40 PM PST by chickadee
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To: Jean S

Sounds as if they see the writing on the wall. I hope the answer is “NO”.


4 posted on 02/18/2011 2:41:40 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Jean S

This after they called the Governor a dictator, compared the Wisconsin GOP legislators to Nazis, staged a phony illegal work stoppage, used taxpayers kids as props for their ginned-up phoney demonstrations, all to keep compensation packages that are much higher than those of average Wisconsin taxpayers?


5 posted on 02/18/2011 2:43:17 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Jean S

They have no leverage to ask for this. Walker knows this. They will not get it.


6 posted on 02/18/2011 2:44:05 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jean S

NO WAY. Its way past time to draw the line.


7 posted on 02/18/2011 2:44:45 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Steely Tom

They also had one of their leaders state on camera that they hoped he died.


8 posted on 02/18/2011 2:45:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jean S
Too little, too late. That train has already left the station.


9 posted on 02/18/2011 2:45:32 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Jean S

Some concession. We’ll pay that 12% right up till our first chance to negotiate it away.


10 posted on 02/18/2011 2:45:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Jean S

Fire them all, and have help wanted ads ready to roll Monday morning!


11 posted on 02/18/2011 2:46:23 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Jean S

Lemmee think about that for just a second ... ummm ... "No". Next.


12 posted on 02/18/2011 2:47:07 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Jean S

uniOnS are a cancer >>>>say no


13 posted on 02/18/2011 2:48:17 PM PST by bt579 (UNIONS WILL SEE AMERICA DEAD ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THEY GIVE UP THEIR FAT SALARIES AND PENSIONS)
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To: Jean S; All
"Wisconsin: Head of state's largest union offers concession"


14 posted on 02/18/2011 2:48:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jean S

My God. Marty Beil, you stupid twit. We’re not asking. We’re telling you. That’s it! No more collective bargaining power for you! Hell even FDR said public unions should not have collective bargaining. Bargaining against who? The people! You work for me! WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU. You’re making more than any of us anyway.

In a just world the Governor would fire them all.


15 posted on 02/18/2011 2:49:29 PM PST by Big E
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To: Secret Agent Man
They have no leverage to ask for this. Walker knows this. They will not get it.

I hope you're right. I wish, just once, one of these Republican leaders could do the right thing instead of the easy thing. Just once.

16 posted on 02/18/2011 2:50:13 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: KoRn

I wonder ow many apps they’d get?

With a 10% unemployment rate, If I were them, I’d be a tad nervous about my job.


17 posted on 02/18/2011 2:50:16 PM PST by crz
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To: Jean S

No!


18 posted on 02/18/2011 2:51:18 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Jean S

So after three days of cancelled school classes, signs comparing the Governor to Nazis and Mussolini, tons of trash in the State House (in addition to litter) and democrats shutting down the legislative process...

...NOW they want to try asking nicely for a discussion?

HAH.


19 posted on 02/18/2011 2:52:04 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Jean S; All; LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

Can some one go to drudge and post an article? Says gov is sending state patrol to get the dems !!!!!


20 posted on 02/18/2011 2:52:25 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Jean S

No half-measures, the only thing the left understands is power. Now is the time to fix the problems without any concession to the very ones that promote the problems.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 2:55:07 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Steely Tom

“I hope you’re right. I wish, just once, one of these Republican leaders could do the right thing instead of the easy thing. Just once”

easy thing = RINO thing


22 posted on 02/18/2011 2:55:53 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: KoRn

That is what I said yesterday, walk across the street to UW tell them any grad or May grad can have a teachers job. In two years they will have better teachers (more enthusiasm, not jaded or unionized) and cheaper. Let every stinking sick teacher collect 2 years unemployment and be done with it.


23 posted on 02/18/2011 2:56:10 PM PST by Jolla
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To: LostInBayport

I saw one of the legislators on the lam earlier today claiming that the students missing school are actually learning how democracy works.


24 posted on 02/18/2011 2:57:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Jean S

Somebody needs to tell this Marty Beil that the negotiations ended abruptly on 11/2/11.


25 posted on 02/18/2011 2:59:04 PM PST by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: Jean S

if the governor cannot fire them (the preferred choice), then now would be a good time to change his offer, to even more to the benefit of the taxpayers. Kind of like: I offer 100, you say you want 200, my next offer 75 - that kind of negotiating for a change.


26 posted on 02/18/2011 3:00:42 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Jean S
This should be Walker's counter-offer:
27 posted on 02/18/2011 3:01:41 PM PST by StAnDeliver ("Are you better off than you were four years ago?")
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To: Jolla

All they have to do is allow people with college degrees in given subjects to teach those subjects ... without having to jump through all the teacher certification hoops. It’s pretty ridiculous that a guy with a PhD in chemistry cant teach in the public schools.

Get rid of the certification requirement, replace it with a degree requirement, and watch the caliber of teachers improve.


28 posted on 02/18/2011 3:02:32 PM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: Jean S
What I would like to see.

On Monday morning Gov. Scott Walker heads to his office with two sheriffs and the State Attorney General. Gov. Walker phones Marty Beil (head of the Wisconsin Employees Union) to come on down to negotiate. As soon as Beil steps into the office the sheriffs put on the handcuffs and read him his rights while the SAG hands him the arrest warrant under RICO.

I can dream can't I?
29 posted on 02/18/2011 3:02:47 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: Jean S

Concessions aren’t enough. This predator has to be defanged.


30 posted on 02/18/2011 3:04:49 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Jean S

This is how a leader deals with Leftists, from a position of Strength.

Just like Ronald Reagan did!


31 posted on 02/18/2011 3:04:56 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: StAnDeliver
add : Unions are no longer permitted to contribute to political campaigns or buy ads promoting a candidate, issue, or party.
32 posted on 02/18/2011 3:05:12 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Jolla

Another idea for consideration...

All across the country, but particularly in NYS, some of the youngest and most enthusiastic teachers are getting fired, because the teacher’s unions demand “seniority” be kept (last hired, first fired).

The older burned out teachers get to keep their jobs through tenure and collective bargaining, and they refuse to take salary cuts to keep the younger teachers, who make much less, on the payroll. They are totally selfish, greedy, and unconcerned about the profession of teaching, just their scheduled salary increases, benefits, and retirement pay.

Send the word out that Wisconsin is looking to hire younger qualified teachers, and watch them flock to Wisconsin to take these jobs.

If every state would do the same, we could really make some progress in education, finally. It is long past time to get rid of the NEA, a totally left-dominated union that is ruining our educational system in the USA, and doesn’t give a flying freep about our children.


33 posted on 02/18/2011 3:05:52 PM PST by jacquej
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To: Jean S

No.

Break them. Completely. Otherwise WI only gets a temporary respite and this all starts again.

}:-)4


34 posted on 02/18/2011 3:07:10 PM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Steely Tom
This after they called the Governor a dictator, compared the Wisconsin GOP legislators to Nazis, staged a phony illegal work stoppage, used taxpayers kids as props for their ginned-up phoney demonstrations, all to keep compensation packages that are much higher than those of average Wisconsin taxpayers?

That's was yesterday. It's so bitter and extreme to let past hatred ruin good tomorrows.

Never mind that all the hatred was spewed by the union reps and their minions.

35 posted on 02/18/2011 3:07:15 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Jean S
...is willing to give in to Gov. Scott Walker's demand for concessions on their benefits if the governor gives up his bid to repeal nearly all bargaining rights for public worker unions...

LMAO!!
Yeah, so the sacrificed "concessions" can be "negotiated " right back into the contract down the road when there's a friendly rat governor and rat legislature around who would only be too delighted to raise taxes on normal, traditional American families to pay for it.

Right.

Governor Walker, tell this pantload to go play in the street.

36 posted on 02/18/2011 3:08:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jean S
I wouldn't bet on it, watch the video.

Hot Air

37 posted on 02/18/2011 3:08:55 PM PST by SouthTexas (Is it time for tea yet?)
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To: Jolla
. Let every stinking sick teacher collect 2 years unemployment and be done with it.

Fire them all, hire the new grads, and then let the fired teachers "re-certify" at their own expense. There are plenty of great teachers, let them come back with no tenure and perhaps some partial credit on their previous benefits/benefits. This will let them buy back into the only system that they can comprehend - most are probably ruined for private sector jobs - and will put them in a state of inferiority to non-jaded newbies.

Bingo, permanent change achieved. To use an evolutionary theory it would be what one would call a "punctuated equilibrium".

38 posted on 02/18/2011 3:18:15 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Jolla

Agreed. Contact the Guv’ner folks, and ask him to stand strong for ALL of us!

CONTACT GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!
Contact Us

Feel free to contact us at any time.

Email
govgeneral@wisconsin.gov

Mail
Office of Governor Scott Walker
115 East Capitol
Madison WI 53702

Phone
(608) 266-1212


39 posted on 02/18/2011 3:19:51 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: freespirited

they have to be certain that he/she won’t victimize the
children.

oh, wait..


40 posted on 02/18/2011 3:24:09 PM PST by rahbert
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To: Jean S

Allow me to translate:

Don’t take away any union officials’ power and we’ll let you take away union members’ benefits. Deal?


41 posted on 02/18/2011 3:28:50 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Jean S

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bleepin’ way.........and fire the teachers too!


42 posted on 02/18/2011 3:31:05 PM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Jean S

Governor, stand firm and break the Public Service Unions, especially the teacher unions!!! And....folks, get your butts in gear tonight, all over the country, and swamp the Governor’s e-mail: (govgeneral@wisconsin.gov) site with words of support and appreciation from the bottom of your hearts. This man, Governor Walker, is a Republican, yes, but first he is an American, a true patriot from head to toe!!! Support him, thank him, and have God, Almighty bless and keep him!!! Governor, Phone - (608) 266-1212 Folks, get in gear and send thousands of messages to this profile in courage!!! Do it right now!!! I have!!!


43 posted on 02/18/2011 3:31:14 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Jean S

Okay, has anyone said it yet?

PALIN/WALKER 2012!

WALKER/PALIN 2012!

(joke)


44 posted on 02/18/2011 3:31:24 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Jean S

One of the things that the governor is trying to avoid is teacher layoffs. Fire every single teacher that ‘called in sick’ to attend these demonstrations. No layoffs needed.
Looks like the rat senators abandoned their jobs as well. Appoint new ones.

Fire them all!


45 posted on 02/18/2011 3:34:21 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
Okay, has anyone said it yet? PALIN/WALKER 2012!

Works for me. Republicans who actually do something. I'm still in shock.

46 posted on 02/18/2011 3:35:06 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: StAnDeliver

You forgot:

The state will no longer collect union dues. The unions will have to invoice the members.

Unions will stand for recertification yearly.


47 posted on 02/18/2011 3:38:17 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: DJ MacWoW
Sounds as if they see the writing on the wall. I hope the answer is “NO”.

I've been waiting for the usual Republican cave-in, but after just having heard Walker speak, I am convinced that he will win this for us. He was clear, confidant, and forceful. See if you can find his press conference on youtube. It's worth seeing.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around a conservative victory against teacher unions.

48 posted on 02/18/2011 3:38:55 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
get your butts in gear tonight, all over the country, and swamp the Governor’s e-mail

Did it. BTTT!

49 posted on 02/18/2011 3:39:30 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: Jean S; All
They KNOW the public is not behind them, and they are TRYING to save face!

The way I see things, they're not in a position to negotiate. So screw them.

50 posted on 02/18/2011 3:39:35 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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