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Radiocarbon Dating Dinosaurs?
http://www.worldbydesign.org/research/c14dating/datingdinosaurs.html ^

Posted on 02/19/2011 4:01:41 PM PST by AndyTheBear

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To: April Lexington
Ok... so... who is Radiocarbon and why does he want to date dinosaurs?

No, no, it's Ludacris who wants to date dinosaurs. You'd think he could do better but there it is.

41 posted on 02/19/2011 6:38:37 PM PST by decimon
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To: adorno
Helen might've been able to tell us about the dinosaurs, but, I don't think that she's ever been trustworthy in her reporting.

Only if you believe the mass extinction was the fault of the Jews.

42 posted on 02/19/2011 7:46:54 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: AndyTheBear
Crude oil is not radioactive, even though it is 85% carbon. That's because all the radioactive Carbon-14 in the original material has decayed over the Milena. Thus proving it has been in the ground more than 60K years.

BTW, all alcoholic beverages sold in the U.S. must be radioactive, thus proving it was made with recently harvested live grains.

43 posted on 02/19/2011 8:18:39 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: humblegunner
Why?

Because 12 tests can be written off as anomalies...but if they keep finding radiocarbon in dinosaur bones it just gets harder and harder to marginalize those who dare question that they are millions of years old.

Real science is based on dogma, NOT repeated experiments! Stop the testing now!</satire>

44 posted on 02/19/2011 8:30:04 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Strategerist
There’s no such thing as “Carbon-Dating” dinosaur bones, as Carbon dating is only useful back 50,000 years, and dinosaurs, of course, are at least 65 million years old

Yes that is why the experiments must be stopped. Because the radiocarbons found don't exist.

But if these evil experiments continue to find these untrue results then it will only get harder and harder to write the creationists off as whack jobs....so lets go ahead and ban the experiments!

And perhaps burn some books?

45 posted on 02/19/2011 8:38:10 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: muawiyah
Actually scientists use DIFFERENT METHODS.

Yes, different methods are used because dinosaur bones are presumed to be millions of years old. Now that they appear to be much younger, shall the experiments be repeated to make sure they are not in error? Of course not. Thus, as I said such evil tests should be outlawed...along with Galileo's evil telescope thingy.

46 posted on 02/19/2011 8:41:34 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: stormer
This piece is garbage. Typical disingenuous BS we’ve grown to expect from the liars who purport to do “creation research”. Radiometric dating is a powerful, well understood tool if properly applied

Look, if one properly looks for radiocarbons in dino bones, one will not find them right? Is this true or not? Do you care about testing things to see what is true or not?

47 posted on 02/19/2011 8:44:49 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Redcloak
One does not “carbon date” dinosaur fossils. The half-life of Carbon-14 is too short to yield meaningful numbers beyond 60,000 years.

Exactly, and the fact that they find Carbon-14 in the bones every time somebody does this evil practice is like torturing puppies. Pure evil! I think they have invisible pink unicorns putting it there! Whats your theory?

48 posted on 02/19/2011 8:48:49 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: truth_seeker

Until I find out the answer from the Source, I lean toward the 10k end, but I’m willing to read other views. Less is possible, more is possible. With God anything is possible, and a literal week for creating a solar system is as nothing to Him.


49 posted on 02/19/2011 8:51:24 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Larry Lucido
There needs to be a law to stop this pimping.

Indeed, tests that might falsify a popular scientific view and embarrass arrogant academics should be viewed with more scorn than I already have!

I will join you...and say people who dare look for C14 where it can't possibly exist (dino bones) are puppy torturing, wife beaters, with delusions of godhood!!! And they have stinky diaper pants!!!

Good call! Keep up the well reasoned arguments. But for the love of Darwin...STOP THE EXPERIMENTS!!!!

50 posted on 02/19/2011 8:53:06 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Mr. K
IT DOES NOT WORK FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS (BECAUSE OF THE RADIOACTIVE HALF-LIFE)

Therefore, you would not expect any in the bones! So the devil put it there? Or was it imps? Ninjas? What's your explanation?

51 posted on 02/19/2011 8:55:37 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Tread EZ
Scientists use other elements with million-year half-lives to measure the strata above and below the sedimentary layers containing the fossils. They then have a range in which to place the fossil with a high degree of accuracy.

The age of the sedimentary brackets have to be established somehow. However, certainly there can be no C14 in dino bones...there is just no way...but there is! So stop the experiments, or some people have to rethink too many things!

STOP THE EXPERIMENTS NOW!!!! NO C14 TESTING IN DINO BONES!

Oh the horror if we have to rethink the age of the "sedimentation" layers.

52 posted on 02/19/2011 8:59:37 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Clara Lou
Wow. Dud post, eh? Embarrassing.

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53 posted on 02/19/2011 9:01:02 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
"Carbon dating dinosaur bones is ludicrous, and the fact they yielded numbers is meaningless,"

Totally meaningless, especially without a benchmark sample from the dinosaurs' home planet.
Apples and orangutans.

54 posted on 02/19/2011 9:19:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: muleskinner
Crude oil is not radioactive, even though it is 85% carbon. That's because all the radioactive Carbon-14 in the original material has decayed over the Milena. Thus proving it has been in the ground more than 60K years.

Has this been verified? My understanding is that the ratio of radiocarbons to regular carbon is kinda low. I mean I don't think of myself as radioactive because of my own C14, but I must suppose I have some. Also, are we sure crude oil was all once living matter? Some scientists disagree, albeit they are in the minority.

55 posted on 02/19/2011 9:28:26 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Lancey Howard
Obviously the amount of c14 in the bones will be zero. 65 million years divided by 5730 years...cut in half way way way too many times. Heck, even if the dinos were somehow 100% c14 they would be 100% nitrogen now. There will be no c14 unless the reading was contaminated.

Except there was some! Dang! Well shall we assume contamination every time the experiment was done? Or shall we try again and make sure one way or the other.

Which side wants to try? Which side wants to hide?

56 posted on 02/19/2011 9:32:36 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: ottbmare
Are you not a conservative? or do you favor further legal intrusion into our lives and activities?

I am pretty conservative, my call to ban the tests is satirical.

57 posted on 02/19/2011 9:39:28 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

They DO NOT use carbon 14 for dating dinosaur bones. The use uranium.


58 posted on 02/20/2011 12:01:57 AM PST by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: Tread EZ
They DO NOT use carbon 14 for dating dinosaur bones. The use uranium.

Um, these so-called creation scientists actually did check for C14 in dino bones. It was an evil thing to be sure. And by a cruel trick of magical imps, they seemed to have found what could not possibly be in a bone that has been dead for millions of years.

We don't know for sure the dates of the layers of sedimentation, albeit many people have worked hard studying and theorizing about them. We don't know for sure the original concentration of uranium at any given time or location except as we can correlate it with the sedimentation and such. But we DO know for sure that after 100,000 years ALL C14 will be gone...thus we can conclude that if there is ANY C14 in dino bones the uranium dates and sedimentation dates that were used to calibrate them are drastically wrong, and much rethinking and re-theorizing is in order. For C14 no calibration is needed. No matter how much or how little C14 the dinos had in them, it should all be long gone. So any C14...is crazy! It would turn modern thinking on its head. And that is exactly what 12 of 12 tests have shown. Is this not provocative? Or is it just scary?

In science, you are supposed to get a theory and then put it to the test...but all too often, people who grow attached to theories prefer to simply promote them rather than test them. To look for ways it all fits together, instead of using tests that subject it to the possibility of all falling apart.

Thus, there is much incentive to marginalize these crazy readings. They are very provocative. They would turn far too much established theory on its head.

So the question is...does main stream science have the balls to run tests for C14 on dino bones? Or is it going to turn away from risking falsification? Modern science says none will be there. But so far they have been wrong. Shall they see for sure? Should the hide their head in the sand? What should they do?

59 posted on 02/20/2011 1:17:06 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

I blame sloppy bokkeeping


60 posted on 02/20/2011 3:03:39 AM PST by Mr. K (Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got Electrolytes.)
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