Skip to comments.Libya Live thread 2-25-2011...the final battle?
Posted on 02/25/2011 7:21:15 AM PST by janetjanet998
reports are that parts of Tripoli have fallen and 10,000's protestors and former army soldiers are marching towards the center
1457: The Guardian correspondent Martin Chulov tweets from Benghazi: "The Mitiga air base is confirmed to have fallen in Tripoli. #Libya. #Ghaddafi. Planes that strafed citizens took off from here."
Reports multiplying of army/security force defections and growing crowd of protestors from Toojora area massing and marching towards central Tripoli
AJ English caller from Tripoli attempted to describe mass march....phone went dead after loud voice (via translation) shouted that he was forbidden to call
The regime is doomed. Qaddafi’s secret police goons and mercenaries won’t be able to save his rapidly crumbling dictatorship.
It could be all over by Sunday.
The best we can hope for now is that whoever succeeds Gaddafi isn’t an islamist.
If they took the air base this is HUGE. Won’t be long then before it’s a done deal...but then there of course is the aftermath...as one Libyan said...”Who would have thought we’d find ourselves rebuilding our country from kids on the interenet.”
.Gadhafi militia open fire on Libya protesters
BENGHAZI, Libya Militias loyal to Moammar Gadhafi opened fire on protesters streaming out of mosques in the Libyan capital on Friday, demanding the regime’s ouster, witnesses said, reporting at least four killed. Across rebellious cities in the east, tens of thousands held rallies in support of the first Tripoli protests in days.
Protesters chanting for Gadhafi’s ouster streamed out of mosques near downtown Tripoli’s Green Square and other districts after prayers, and they were confronted by troops and militiamen who opened fire, said several witnesses. Gunmen on rooftops in streets near the square shot down on marchers, they said.
One witness reported seeing three protesters killed in the Souq al-Jomaa area near the square, and another reported a fourth death in another district, Fashloum. The reports could not be immediately confirmed.
“There are all kind of bullets,” said one protester near the Souq al-Jomaa, screaming in a telephone call to The Associated Press, with the rattle of shots audible in the background.
“The situation is chaotic in parts of Tripoli now,” said another witness, who was among marchers in adjacent Algeria Square and said he saw militiamen firing in the air. Armed Gadhafi supporters were also speeding through some streets in vehicles, he said. Residents hiding in their homes also reported the sound of gunfire in other parts of the capital.
Aren’t they all islamists over there one way or the other?
Haha. While I will hope and pray for that, I see no chance of that not happening.
If they want to end the regime, they’ll first have to FIND Gaddafi. He’s probably in a better hidey-hole than Saddam was.
He is likely also guarded by fierce loyalists.
I also think he’ll eat a gun before being taken. It’s probably better than what the crowd may do to him if they get their hands on him. Think “Mussolini”.
The army will probably take over from Qaddafi. But writing a democratic constitution is a tall order for a nation that has never known democracy.
Qaddafi apparently misread the import of the Tunisian and Egyptian revolutions and thought he could ride out the storm. It turned out to be a fatal miscalculation.
Once people stopped being afraid, the tide turned despite all the power the state had on its side against an unarmed population.
And the feeling for people is an exhilarating one. They never thought this day would come. The dictator turned out to be no match for them.
His mercenaries and goons are just enraging people and spurring them on. It reminds me of Iran in my youth, when the Shah’s army tried to put down protests all over the country. They mothballed and within a few months, the Shah was gone. We are seeing the same scenes now in Libya. Qaddafi will either commit suicide or be shot like Ceausescu. The end of his bloody regime will be a bloody one.
This is gonna be evil, he’s gonna get mussolini’ed along with his family.
We’ve had one going for days:
Anyone keeping track of the threat vectors that Khadaffy has spent 4 decades winnowing out...?
: BREAKING:.... Reports of a split between members of the Khamis brigade, when confirmed this should signal the end of the tyrant ....3 minutes ago via web
Very credible reports that Souq al Juma area of Tripoli has fallen out of regime control.....3 minutes ago via TweetDeck
Not less then 30,000 heading to Green square, people dead in janzoor West of Tripoli Libya ....36 minutes ago via web
Why would folks that practice Islam vote for an un Islamic governance? What was that West said about sunshine and skittles?
Looks like it might even be less than that.
Berta should get her own show
Mitiga barraks reported have joined people and now marching with people from Tajoura towards center of theTripoli.... 1hr ago.......webvaladon2
CONFIRMED: along with the protesters who left for Martyr square, there are a few military vehicles traveling with them........ @ShababLibya:
Guys, forget about everything outsideTripoli. Don’t ask me about other cities, it’s all inTripoli now. It falls, he falls....... 5 minutes ago
Gaddafi Gunmen Storm Hospitals to Shoot Wounded Demonstrators, Take Dead Bodies With Them ..... http://t.co/93Wdo8R 4 minutes ago
Certainly confirms that by taking out Saddam we set all the dominoes tumbling in motion. For better or worse...
so Soros wins!?
Iraq and Kuristan protesting today as well.....and nippets that N.Koreans are getting the news about the dominos in ME...pockets of protests there but quickly smashed.
IF he is overthrown the world will be begging for him before long. The west should not be supporting these uprisings at all. This is coordinated and these upcoming powers will be, in essence, one.
Ollie North said last night on FOX that Ghaddafi was not long for this world. He said either a bullet from his own weapon or the weapon of an assassin would end his life in short order.
Just what I said.
He fell in love with his own propaganda that his people loved him. He’s delusional.
But Qaddafi is not as stupid as Ceausescu was to give a pro-regime speech in front of a large crowd in the regime’s twilight.
He’s living now on borrowed time.
Despite live shootings protestors still keep going 5 minutes ago ·
CONFIRMED: Youth In benghazi getting ready to head for Tripoli the Capitol of Libya 5 minutes ago ·
bad news just come in - some Gadaffi loyalists marched with protestors and turned on them just now - shooting! unsure location5 minutes ago ·
Reports filtering in: 50,000 protestors from Tajura, a suburb that is 14 kilometers from Tripoli, are heading toward Tripoli 4 minutes ago ·
All from ‘blogs of war’ tweet site good site...follows allot from many countrieshttp://blogsofwar.com/libya/
I wonder how many of his Amazon Guards are still hanging around him willing to take the first bullets fired at him? Most of them are probably hiding out under a burka heading for the border right now if they have any brains at all.
He probably isn’t allowing anyone with a weapon closer than 2 bulletproof doors from his ugly mug either, even his kids and most loyal guards probably have to step through that last door naked I bet.
People are just defiant. At some point, the pro-Qaddafi forces will run out of ammo. They can’t shoot every one. There are just too many people making their way into the city for them to have movable targets. And they’ll be thinking about saving their own skins rather than continuing to fight for a guy whose has clearly lost his war on his own people.
One thing for sure, he won’t trust his sons, they are snakes of the highest order, they’ll sell him out in a heartbeat.
Many reports coming out of Tripoli, Ambulances coming to take injured are actually killing them inside 5 minutes ago
These guys play one huge nasty game of war....everything debased that man can do is seen in these thugs...there are no boundaries of evil in them.
Right now he has two choices: he can flee or he can be killed.
Either way, its the end of an era.
His most loyal thugs know its over but they also know if they don’t keep fighting they’ll die and the Arabs are not merciful to those they kill.
The blogs of war site is about the most current and active site I’ve found...includes two running threads of tweets plus you can watch aljazzer’s coverage...thinking we will see when they take it from this site.
Looking at what i’m seeing on tv on AJ, Iraq is about to go supernova as well. They seem well pissed.
It starts the exact same way, under the guise of “Dumbocracy”, freedom and “human rights”. The euphoria can be cut with a knife from all the Liberal/Socialist/Marxist Utopian dreamers. And it ends with harsh Islamic tyranny.
Reports that Souq al Jouma in #Tripoli is flying the independence flag now! Almost there, #Tripoli. #Feb17 #Libya 4 minutes ago · reply
My guess is he grabs a bunch of gold, takes a couple of planes with a VERY well paid off flight crew and heads to Venezuela. I believe he is a chicken at heart and will run rather than die, Chavez will probably give him a few thousand hectares with a quaint little hut and a big yard to put his tent up on and let him retire.
1613: The Tripoli resident continues: “The militia and Gaddafi supporters [are] carrying heavy arms [and] don’t want the people to gather. They were just coming out in a crowd. They caused a massacre... There are some people still lying on the street. Nobody can take them. They are using ambulances to shoot at people - can you believe it? They are using anti-aircraft weapons. They are shooting continuously. You think you are in a war zone. This is a civil area. People are not armed.”
1610: More on those reports of people being shot at by Gaddafi supporters after Friday prayers. One person told the BBC: “As we were praying, the shooting started. As people came out [of the mosque], they were shooting at people. A lot of my neighbours today died. My brother was hit by a bullet in his leg. The situation here is horrible. There are helicopters. The sky is raining with bullets.”
The Islamists are the strongest and best organized force in the Middle East. There is no strong liberal party in any Arab country and this includes countries with a relatively open political system, like Lebanon, Iraq and Kuwait. I would say the prospects of a Western-style democracy emerging in the Arab World range from slim to none. We’re probably going to see strongmen emerge in those countries because that’s what Arabs are accustomed to.
The nicer things Arabs do is cut off penises and breasts and stuff them in dead people’s mouths. They don’t fight in a civilized fashion. And they show no respect for the sanctity of their own holy places.
The scene is horrific... no doubt. But freedom is worth dying for, an ideal that should still move us in a world that has come to believe nothing is worth dying for. I’ve always held that death is preferable to slavery.
CONFIRMED: Libyan Govt Falcon DA-900 flight tail nr 5A-DCN will depart Minsk UUMS at 17:00 UTC for Mitiga HLLM #Libya #Gadhafi
Possibly having second thoughts on martyrdom?
cnn video of Gadaffi palace burned, and his compound.......they are using backhoes to dig up the ground around, for hidden bunkers. Interesting video.