Baby Joseph’s lawyer dropped from case: prayer vigils planned

LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/1/11 | Patrick B. Craine

[wagglebee]

I'm not certain what this means, but it doesn't sound good.

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[trisham]

No, it doesn’t. I’m sorry.

[skr]

The lawyer was removed? By whom?

[wagglebee]

I'm not sure if it was the family or the Canadian court, either way I don't view it as a good sign.

[Michel12]

Poor parents... Two such tragedies! It is heartbreaking!

[RnMomof7]

Who removed him? I know that the ACLJ ( a Christian law center) has become engaged in the fight for him .

[wagglebee]

I'm not sure if he was removed by the parents or the courts, either way I think it's a bad sign.

The ACLJ, Priests for Life, the Schindler family (Terri Schiavo's brother, sister and mother) and other groups are involved, but I fear that things are about to go horribly wrong.

[kaila]

“Fr. Frank Pavone, national director of the U.S.-based Priests for Life, has pledged to pay for Joseph to be moved to a hospital in the U.S.”

No way is a hospital in the US going to accept this patient. Home care would cost in the hundred of thousands of dollars if this baby managed to live another 6 months. Is this Father Pavone going to pay for that care? Doubt it.
He wants to dump this on the already fragile health care system with a non American family taking away US taxpayer dollars.
You can put diagrams on how simple a trach procedure is. However, the equipment needed and the support services required for home care is immense.

[wagglebee]

No way is a hospital in the US going to accept this patient.

Why do you say this?

Home care would cost in the hundred of thousands of dollars if this baby managed to live another 6 months.

Do you have a basis for this claim or are you just repeating the culture of death's talking points?

Is this Father Pavone going to pay for that care? Doubt it. He wants to dump this on the already fragile health care system with a non American family taking away US taxpayer dollars.

Again you are making a claim that has no basis in fact.

You can put diagrams on how simple a trach procedure is. However, the equipment needed and the support services required for home care is immense.

The culture of death loves to talk in non-specific, yet alarming, terms that cannot be substantiated.

This has been going on for decades:

“This person suffering from hereditary defects

costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.

People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.”

[trisham]

The culture of death loves to talk in non-specific, yet alarming, terms that cannot be substantiated.

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Facts are bothersome. Apparently, so is morality.

[kaila]

Yes, I do know how much it costs. A way lot more than you do. That is why a hospital will not accept this patient. There would also be a placement problem, where would this baby go? Home? The Canadian government will not pay for the care.
Are you afraid of dying?
We all will die someday.
Why should everyone die hooked up to a ventilator costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?
I would think, if you are religious, that dying is just another phase of our soul.
Right now, you are encouraging torture.
The Hitler comparison is stupid.
Hitler executed people with developmental disabilities. That is horrible.
We are talking about a dying child with probable minimal brain function.

[wagglebee]

Yes, I do know how much it costs. A way lot more than you do. That is why a hospital will not accept this patient. There would also be a placement problem, where would this baby go? Home? The Canadian government will not pay for the care.

As with all death mongers you place the value of money above that of life.

The problem is that the hospital REFUSES to perform a tracheotomy before Baby Joseph leaves.

Are you afraid of dying?

There is a difference between dying and being murdered.

We all will die someday.

And the culture of death wants to hasten it.

Why should everyone die hooked up to a ventilator costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

We are talking about a tracheotomy, not a ventilator.

Right now, you are encouraging torture.

How so? If, as you claim, Baby Joseph has "minimal brain function" it cannot be "torture" no matter what the pro-death talking points state.

The Hitler comparison is stupid.

I'm sure it's unsettling for you, but that doesn't make it stupid.

Hitler executed people with developmental disabilities. That is horrible.

This is the same thing.

Have you even read what Father Frank Pavone has pledged to do? Here it is:

Father Frank's Alerts

Save Baby Joseph!

There's an 18-month-old baby boy in Canada who is about to be put to death by the Canadian government.

I'm writing to you today so that you can help Priests For Life save this baby's life if possible.

 Here's the situation … The baby, who is known as Baby Joseph, is suffering from a critical condition that requires him to have a breathing tube in order to stay alive.

However, the Canadian government has decided that they don't want to spend any more money on Baby Joseph to keep him alive.

And, to everyone's horror, the government won't even let Baby Joseph go home with his parents. His parents need to obtain better health care for Baby Joseph by bringing him to the United States where a hospital -- preferably a Catholic hospital where the baby will NOT be euthanized.

My experience in the case of Terri Schiavo back in 2005 showed me how devastating it is when a person -- no matter how young or how old -- is put to death by the "health care" system that pretends to help the sick, the poor, the indigent, the elderly, and those with terminal illnesses.

In reality, the government "health care" system doesn't want to spend money on anyone if they can't make money on that patient.

Therefore, since the Canadian government -- because of their system of rationing health care -- is determined to put Baby Joseph to death by removing his breathing tube, we at Priests For Life are stepping up to the plate and offering to bring Baby Joseph to the United States so that he can receive better health care and possibly survive his illness rather than being put to death because of rationed health care.

You see, the Canadian government is refusing to let Baby Joseph's parents take care of him. His parents don't want him to die. They already had one child die from a similar illness, and they don't want it to happen again.

But because of the Canadian government's system of "socialized" health care, Baby Joseph is in danger. They won't take care of him. Therefore, we have to.

The first thing I urge you to do is contact the officials in the Canadian government who are holding Baby Joseph's life in their hands. All you have to do is click here and your message will be sent immediately to these Canadian officials to implore them to release Baby Joseph back to his parents so that he can get the proper health care he needs and not be put to death in the painful, inhumane method of removing his breathing tube.

The second thing you need to do is pray for Baby Joseph and his parents for a sensitive solution to this problem.

And then, third, please forward this alert to everyone on your email list!

I will keep you updated on our progress in this crucial fight to save Baby Joseph. Please keep reading these alerts and forwarding them to all your friends and family members so that the word can get out about the injustices inflicted upon little children by the Culture of Death.

 

Fr. Frank Pavone
National Director

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Yes, I do know how much it costs. A way lot more than you do.

Why should everyone die hooked up to a ventilator costing hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Right now, you are encouraging torture.

You do not know what you are talking about. Read the article:

his parents, Moe Maraachli and Sana Nader, have asked them to perform a tracheostomy which would enable him to breathe on his own, so that they could take him home. Their daughter died from similar complications eight years ago, but in that case doctors performed a tracheostomy and they were able to take her home.

There would be no ventilator at home, so no hundreds of thousands of dollars in cost. Just a trache. I have patients walk in my office every day with traches without being on vents, breathing normally through the trache tube in their throat and otherwise living normal lives.

That is all this family is asking for their baby. Give him a trache so we can take him off the vent and bring him home, where he will breathe on his own without a vent until he dies a natural death, just like his sister did.

You are the one advocating torture, in refusing to let him die breathing on his own, at home, with his family.

[kaila]

“Justice Rady’s decision was based on doctors’ testimony that he is in a permanent vegetative state with no brain stem reflex.”

I do not believe you are a medical doctor. Please read the above sentance again.
Do you know what loss of brain stem function is?
Please go back to medical school.
The baby needs a ventilator to breathe. Quit fudging the facts.

[kaila]

I might also add,
I would bet a Pediatric pulmonologist and pediatric neurologist in Detroit reviewed his chart.
They did not accept this baby to their hospital.
They know the true story.
We are only hearing one side- the parents.

[DJ MacWoW]

Are you afraid of dying?

Are you afraid of a baby living? You certainly argue passionately for death.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

The baby's sister had the same exact diagnosis. She was given a trache and breathed on her own for 6 months at home without a vent until she died a natural death with her family.

Which puts the lie to these "doctors'" assertions.

[kaila]

The sister probably did not lose her breathing reflex.
Probably was not on a ventilator.
This baby is further along the process.
I do not beleive in prolonging death for stupid reasons.
We all die. Get used to it.
This is torture.