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BYU boots star basketball player for pre-marital sex
KTLA ^ | 03/03/11

Posted on 03/03/2011 9:40:12 AM PST by Borges

PROVO, Utah (KTLA) -- The 3rd ranked team in college basketball, Brigham Young University, has kicked its starting power forward off the team for having pre-marital sex with his girlfriend.

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1 posted on 03/03/2011 9:40:12 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

How did they find out?


2 posted on 03/03/2011 9:42:04 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: Borges

Rules are rules.


3 posted on 03/03/2011 9:42:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: La Lydia

He admitted it.


4 posted on 03/03/2011 9:42:50 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

is this from 1911?

lol


5 posted on 03/03/2011 9:43:21 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: cripplecreek

As soon as I heard the words “it’s nothing criminal” I thought he’d probably “had one off”, in the locker room perhaps.


6 posted on 03/03/2011 9:43:37 AM PST by PfromHoGro (RINOs give Rhino a bad name.)
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To: Borges

Maybe he impregnated her with a turkey baster, like the Fundamental Mormons “do” to their wives?


7 posted on 03/03/2011 9:43:45 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Borges

I guess if he had premarital sex with his boyfriend, that’d be A-OK.


8 posted on 03/03/2011 9:44:06 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Borges

Did they get married? If not, then it wasn’t pre-marital, was it?


9 posted on 03/03/2011 9:44:37 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Borges

10 posted on 03/03/2011 9:45:40 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Borges
We're constantly warned not to be judgmental where licentious behavior is concerned.

Something tells me the media will invite judgment in this case.

11 posted on 03/03/2011 9:46:33 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Borges

At least he is honest. That’s more than I can say about MOST people, “religious”, atheists or agnostics.


12 posted on 03/03/2011 9:46:38 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Borges

At least he is honest. That’s more than I can say about MOST people, “religious”, atheists or agnostics.


13 posted on 03/03/2011 9:46:59 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Borges

Well, I admirethem for their courage. Please don’t talk about homosexual activity if you aren’t going to talk about pre-marital sex. While that may hit closer to home, it’s just as wrong. Talk to the millions of single family households and the now sainted “single mom” as to the effect of this.


14 posted on 03/03/2011 9:47:06 AM PST by Obadiah (If you were going to shoot a mime, would you use a silencer?)
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To: Borges

At least he is honest. That’s more than I can say about MOST people, “religious”, atheists or agnostics.


15 posted on 03/03/2011 9:47:06 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Borges

I can imagine empty stadiums and gyms across the nation....


16 posted on 03/03/2011 9:47:18 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Borges
Report: "BYU boots star basketball player for pre-marital sex"

Response: Good for the University administration.

17 posted on 03/03/2011 9:47:33 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Snickering Hound

I’ll convert her !


18 posted on 03/03/2011 9:47:46 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: cripplecreek
Rules are rules.

And some rules are far more stupid to follow than are others.

I'd never buy a car without a test drive or two, or hundreds over at least 18 months if I wasn't sure how fun the car was to live with for a lifetime. . . .
19 posted on 03/03/2011 9:48:21 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Borges
From the longer AP account of the incident:

BYU's honor code instructs students to live a virtuous and chaste life, be honest, attend church regularly and refrain from smoking and drinking alcohol, coffee or tea.

Our neighbors are Mormons who attended BYU. They have both a happy marriage and a great family, a real center for the kids in the neighborhood. I've just been teaching our homeschooled daughter about the 6th commandment, and this is a perfect illustration of what it's all about.

Of course, the usual scoffers will tell us it's just impossible to be true to this code, and you could die from not having sex, or whatever--all of which makes it important to keep the honor code in place and enforce it strictly.

20 posted on 03/03/2011 9:50:46 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Goldsborough

And how long have you been married for?


21 posted on 03/03/2011 9:51:41 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Snickering Hound

Thats worth gettin’ kicked off the team for ...


22 posted on 03/03/2011 9:53:51 AM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: Borges

I am no fan of mormonism but I applaud their stance of upholding standards. The hard part is that sometimes it hurts to do it. But adults do what they have to do.


23 posted on 03/03/2011 9:54:14 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Goldsborough
And some rules are far more stupid to follow than are others.

Nobody forced those rules on him.

I've got a militant lesbian cousin who runs from Christian institution to Christian institution applying for jobs they aren't going to give her. Seems that most Christian schools have standards they expect employees to uphold. The only stupidity comes from those who seek a means of breaking rules for the sake of breaking them.
24 posted on 03/03/2011 9:54:21 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: La Lydia

According to previous articles, the girlfriend is pregnant. Yippee, another welfare mom.


25 posted on 03/03/2011 9:54:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (James is still hungry.)
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To: Borges

Comapre this to the scene at Northwestern, was it?, recently where they had a naked sex-toy demonstartion as part of the class show-and-tell.


26 posted on 03/03/2011 9:54:48 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: BenKenobi

78% of applicants who get accepted go there.


27 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:23 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Borges

Joe Smith and Brigham Young himself wouldn’t have lasted a semester at BYU.


28 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Borges

Rules are rules and they must be followed by everyone on a team

Of Interest: Davies as a FRESHMAN - (2009-2010): Played in 35 games and received team Academic Excellence award.

Love to see him playing for the Celtics!


29 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:33 AM PST by WellyP
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To: skeeter

This isn’t judgmentalism. It’s rules of conduct for “relatively” young people at a religious college. It is, maybe, a cousin of judgmentalism and appears similar, but it is very different.


30 posted on 03/03/2011 9:56:46 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Goldsborough
I'd never buy a car without a test drive or two, or hundreds over at least 18 months if I wasn't sure how fun the car was to live with for a lifetime. . . .

Well, the fact that thus analogy applies indicated that you don't understand the issue.

31 posted on 03/03/2011 9:59:55 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: Tax-chick

Why would you assume that? back in 1976 the younger sister of my college roommate got pregnant as a college freshman. her boyfriend was also a freshman. A shotgun wedding ensued. They had the baby;their parents continued to pay their tuition and support them. Siblings on both sides who were also at the U of Pittsburgh at the time, scheduled their classes around babysitting the baby. she graduated with a degree in nursing, he went on and became a dentist. they went on to have 4 more children after graduation and are still married 35 years later.


32 posted on 03/03/2011 10:00:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Borges

Goodbye.


33 posted on 03/03/2011 10:02:04 AM PST by onedoug (If)
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To: Borges

Hello!!! She’s having a baby.


34 posted on 03/03/2011 10:03:04 AM PST by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: BenKenobi
And how long have you been married for?

Twenty years this June. Virginity is overrated and more lies have been told in history over the topic than perhaps any other in human history.

FWIW, I am still driving my completely researched 1996 Subaru Outback and 2001 Jeep Wrangler too. Being completely sure about a big decision saves a lot of grief.
35 posted on 03/03/2011 10:03:16 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Borges
Personally, I admire this young man's character. He broke an oath, called himself on it, and was prepared to meet the consequences.

For those non-college basketball Freepers, Brigham Young University's basketball team was recently voted #3 in the latest polls. They were projected as a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament (there are four of each seed, 1 through 16), and were ready to make school history.

They had a home game against a team with a significantly less-than-impressive record last night, New Mexico. UNM blew out BYU, in Provo, by a score of 82-64. As a result, it is unlikely that BYU will be seeded anywhere near #1, as the selection commitee has to consider the loss of a player (whether through injury or other infraction) when they seed.

From what I hear though, even though most of the students are likely disappointed, they support the decision of the coach and the administration.

If only our political leaders were as courageous as this college basketball player.

36 posted on 03/03/2011 10:03:38 AM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: xsmommy

Most universities prior to the mid seventies had married housing for couples who needed to be married prior to graduaiton.


37 posted on 03/03/2011 10:04:13 AM PST by Chickensoup (“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” Orwell)
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To: La Lydia

“How did they find out?”

Males like to brag about it.


38 posted on 03/03/2011 10:05:43 AM PST by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: TopQuark
I'd never buy a car without a test drive or two, or hundreds over at least 18 months if I wasn't sure how fun the car was to live with for a lifetime. . . .

Well, the fact that thus analogy applies indicated that you don't understand the issue.

I understand well enough that human nature often fails at such supercilious promise keeping. It's quite unrealistic and pretentious actually, especially considering the tremendously loose sexual mores of the LDS founder(s).
39 posted on 03/03/2011 10:07:54 AM PST by Goldsborough
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To: Borges
The 3rd ranked team in college basketball, Brigham Young University, has kicked its starting power forward off the team ...

His leaving had consequences: After he was kicked off, BYU played lowly New Mexico who promptly beat them.

40 posted on 03/03/2011 10:09:32 AM PST by CedarDave (Global warming is to today's science as was the sun moving around the earth in Galileo's time)
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To: Goldsborough
Maybe that's why young Mormon guys on their missions ride bikes?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

41 posted on 03/03/2011 10:09:36 AM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: wideawake

What do you think?


42 posted on 03/03/2011 10:10:13 AM PST by Borges
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To: Goldsborough

That puts you in the minority then.

“Virginity is overrated”

If your goal is marriage and kids, waiting until you are married is the best way to go. People aren’t cars. You don’t ‘try them out’, unless you want to hurt yourself and a lot of other folks along the way.


43 posted on 03/03/2011 10:10:13 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Borges
Well, it is BYU.....

Mormons are down on pre-marital sex, up on procreation and post-marital sex.

As a private university run by a church, BYU certainly has the right to set its own rules on student conduct and to enforce them.

There is the nagging question whether the BB player was singled out because he was black. Was the girlfriend white? Given the LDS Church's record on race, it is a question.

44 posted on 03/03/2011 10:16:32 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
Does not make a difference what the race. A school should have the right to set standards. Too many thugs in sports.

btw, Gov. Wilder of Virginia pardoned (?) a guy from criminal acts because he was a basketball player. I forgot the details. But the guy was quite a thug.

45 posted on 03/03/2011 10:21:31 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: Borges
Premarital matriculatin’ ?
46 posted on 03/03/2011 10:28:26 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
is this from 1911?

When I was in the Army, late 60s, shacking up was considered conduct unbecoming.

You could get an Article 32 for it.

47 posted on 03/03/2011 10:29:47 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: La Lydia

Girlfriend is pregnant.


48 posted on 03/03/2011 10:31:48 AM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: xsmommy

I assume it because star basketball players, either in college or the NBA, don’t, as a general rule, turn out to be good, faithful husbands and fathers when they impregnate their girlfriends. However, it’s possible that the young man’s losing his place on the team will lead to marriage, graduation from some college with a useful degree, and many years of happy family life. It certainly would be nice if that were the outcome.


49 posted on 03/03/2011 10:32:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (James is still hungry.)
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To: Goldsborough
And some rules are far more stupid to follow than are others.

Then a person shouldn't agree to follow those "stupid" rules when accepting a scholarship to play basketball at BYU.

50 posted on 03/03/2011 10:34:30 AM PST by Isabel C.
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