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O'Reilly Battles Rumsfeld Over Iraq
Fox News - The O'Reilly Factor ^ | March 3, 2011 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 03/03/2011 9:32:45 PM PST by The Shrew

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; iraq; oreilly; rumsfeld
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To: Ramius

still wading thru Decision Points


51 posted on 03/03/2011 10:42:49 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: SoldierDad

Think Michael Reagan will run for President?


52 posted on 03/03/2011 10:43:44 PM PST by tsowellfan (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Alan Keyes)
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To: tsowellfan

No, he won’t. He states that emphatically in his book. And, given what it takes to become and to be President, I can’t say I blame him.


53 posted on 03/03/2011 10:49:36 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Also a good read IMO.


54 posted on 03/03/2011 10:50:07 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: Ramius

I love the way he talked to the press and I don’t like apologetic fools, but I think he was wrong.

They were too worried about liberals to just go in and kill all the bastards and yet they were not so worried about liberals so as to not actually go in.. it has been a war of half measures. I can’t speak for everyone, but I joined in 2004 specifically because I supported Bush and the war. I left in 2010 about as pessimistic as you could be.


55 posted on 03/03/2011 10:50:31 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: SoldierDad
I’m reading his book now. I’m around 120 pages in. Interesting read thus far. I look forward to the chapters dealing with the aftermath of 9/11.

So really just how compelling are you finding A Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity by the greatest, most erudite author of this century (or any other century), Bill O'Reilly?

Oh...wait...that's not the book you're referring to.

Well then...never mind. :-)

56 posted on 03/03/2011 10:51:48 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

LOL - sorry, I’ve not read any of BOR’s books. I thought about it, but then came to my senses.


57 posted on 03/03/2011 10:55:38 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: sinanju; The Shrew; All

He was so arrogantly disrespectful to Rummy .. such a
thin-skinned, sarcastic blowhard.

Megyn Kelly takes him on .. fiercely .. and she
doesn’t blink, she’s not intimidated by him ‘cause
she knows her stuff .. and he truly does NOT.

She did last night over the SCOTUS Westboro decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0bISMPhu0


58 posted on 03/03/2011 11:02:21 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: re_nortex
That there is a funny post.


59 posted on 03/03/2011 11:03:06 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: The Shrew

Does anyone have a clue what is going on in Afghanistan right now? If the public needs to know, than why didn’t BOR tear into Obama like he did Rumsfield?

Im not watching ever again.


60 posted on 03/03/2011 11:05:00 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: The Shrew
Anyone who watches this Jack ass deserves whatever they get
61 posted on 03/03/2011 11:06:03 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: The Shrew

I agree... great e-mail! (I hope you sent it to him)


62 posted on 03/03/2011 11:07:36 PM PST by nutmeg (God bless Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin)
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To: The Shrew

Very well said!


63 posted on 03/03/2011 11:11:32 PM PST by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Arguing with Rummy about Iraq is like arguing with Heisenberg about quantum mechanics.

Because you're never sure what the answer will be?

64 posted on 03/03/2011 11:12:39 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: The Shrew

Interview=stupid. O’Rielly needs to go to MSNBC for penance for three weeks after that Rumsfeld interview, just lame!


65 posted on 03/03/2011 11:14:32 PM PST by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Arguing with Rummy about Iraq is like arguing with Heisenberg about quantum mechanics.

Yep. And the Leprechaun doesn't even know how the tides work.

66 posted on 03/03/2011 11:24:49 PM PST by montag813
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To: hinckley buzzard
I loved that one spot where O’Reilly was ranting on and on and you could see how excited he was and then Rumsfeld calmly said, “do you want me to respond to that?” He did it so cool it made O’Reilly look like the ass that he is.
67 posted on 03/03/2011 11:28:32 PM PST by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: hinckley buzzard

in my mind FOX is disgusting because they have O’Reilly on -O’Reilly poses as a conservative yet liberal devil’s advocate.

I’m glad I don’t watch tv anymore (now going on 4 yrs).I prefer alternative news sites.

O’Reilly always thinks he knows it all but the TRAVESTY here with Rummy is being made a target by O’Reilly by the higher-ups,etc.... and it’s sickening because Rummy really ISN’T the target-BOR didn’t do a book review he just spouted his self-inflated enhanced higher-up opinion(s)
which is meant to denigrate Repubs in general.


68 posted on 03/03/2011 11:28:58 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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To: bigbob

I agree with everything said so far. Did anyone see Megan Kelly go at him last night? She was telling him he was making up his own facts and he can’t do that..


69 posted on 03/03/2011 11:32:35 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: LeoWindhorse
personally , I thought Rumsfeld dragged his ass on troops numbers in the lead up to the fight . We should have overwhelmed them

Fair enough.

We should have totally pressured Turkey to allow a complete second front utilizing the 4th ID

NOT Rummy's fault, but rather Colon Powell's. Prior to Desert Storm, James Baker visited Turkey TWICE and had Bush call the PM 8 times. Powell? Did not visit, made 4 calls, NO Dubya calls, AND they threatened to withhold a $15b loan guarantee. Turkish cartoons railed against "American arrogance". And it cost many lives as a result. Tragic stupidity from a career idiot: Colon Powell.

we should have never put the situation into the hands of the inept Interm Authority after the initial victory

Blame Bush and Bush ALONE for appointing Paul "Pussy" Bremer after firing Garner. We needed a MacArthur, and instead Bush gave us Mr. Rogers, with disastrous results, among which was Muqtada al-Sadr senselessly left alive.

This always happens , over & over again , whenever the CIV’s are put in authority over Mil ops . .Until we learn to fight with the gloves off and use our Mil assets the way they are supposed to be used ,we will never experience clear cut victories again

Amen, brother.

70 posted on 03/03/2011 11:33:29 PM PST by montag813 (Stop Illegal Immigration: JOIN http://facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: bigbob
I'm with you on your point. I know what a total ass Bill is but I watch because of guests such as Dennis Miller, Bernie Goldberg, Laura Ingraham etc. (don't much care for Juan Williams though) But love Mary Catherine Hamm. In other words, I'm not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
71 posted on 03/03/2011 11:35:47 PM PST by fish hawk (R. Emmett Tyrrell: Liberalism is dead. What we see now is "soft Nazis-ism".)
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To: The Shrew

O’Reilly treats The One with kid gloves, yet aggressively goes after Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Disgusting. He behaved like one of his own named pinheads.


72 posted on 03/04/2011 1:06:21 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Irish Eyes

Yet again.


73 posted on 03/04/2011 2:50:06 AM PST by alnick
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To: The Shrew

I have tried any number of times to watch Bill O’Reilly’s show. I can’t do it. There is just something about that condesending tone of voice of his that makes me want to just reach into the TV and just smack the crap out of him.

Maybe he thinks that because he went to Harvard, he is supposed to be so much smarter and so much more enlightened than the rest of us. I would think that the fact the Obama also attended Harvard would put the lie to that delusion.

I don’t watch O’Reilly and I’m watching less and less of FoxNews altogether these days. Other than the morning shows, I usually have the sound muted. I keep it on through the day without sound because, hey, they got some eye candy on that channel, lol.


74 posted on 03/04/2011 2:54:54 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: The Shrew

I don’t think O’Reilly hammered or was abusive to Rumsfeld but the interview took on what I imagine a discussion of warfare would between Clausewitz and Paris Hilton.

You are not going to get concise and complete three word answers to complex problems. It was like a child asking a broad question about life but not having the patience or understanding to hear the answer before moving on to a new question.

O’Reilly’s style is wearing thin on his viewers. I rarely watch him anymore.


75 posted on 03/04/2011 3:00:21 AM PST by Outrance
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To: The Shrew

don’t watch BOR
Thank you for giving me another reason not to.


76 posted on 03/04/2011 3:06:53 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: bigbob
This interview was horrible, but O’reilly will never admit it.

Instead, he'll continue to ask guests for the next two weeks for obsequious praise of it.
77 posted on 03/04/2011 3:25:37 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
still wading thru Decision Points

That is a great way to describe it! Having a hard time keeping up interest with it. Looking forward to reading Known and Unknown.

78 posted on 03/04/2011 3:27:49 AM PST by txlurker
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To: The Shrew

The actual challenges by B.O. were fair. The problem was that the ‘interview’ should have allowed Rumsfeld time to answer without being continually talked-over and insulted by B.O. O’Reilley figuratively bows to our commie president, but feels free to lambast and impugn an actual hero.


79 posted on 03/04/2011 3:46:45 AM PST by mountaineer1997
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To: The Shrew

BOR is a BORE!!! What a creep—his fave line ‘am I right?’ is designed to get positive strokes—I would have loved to ‘stroke’ him last night—across the mouth w/ a 2x4!!!
Secretary Rumsfeld is ‘an officer & a gentleman’ and deserves the respect that he most certainly did not receive last night!
Frannie in Oklahoma


80 posted on 03/04/2011 4:02:35 AM PST by tuffy1
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To: tuffy1

I stop watching his show but every so often I go back. I did 3/2 and turned it off right after he began bashing “birthers” again. He had a kindred spirit on for that one, Huck, who agrees with him.

Fortunately I did not see last night eposide of Mr. Pinhead, I would rather watch reruns of Startrek which I do now. I did not bother to watch him fawn over (.)bama either, why get aggravated? You know what is coming so why abuse your mental balance watching Mr. Pinhead give him verbal sex on TV?


81 posted on 03/04/2011 4:49:50 AM PST by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: The Shrew

Totally agree with your assessement letter. I won’t say never but can say will rarely watch his show again.


82 posted on 03/04/2011 5:02:10 AM PST by bronxville
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To: The Shrew

BOR = Ted Baxter: an overbearing, pompous, vain, shallow, buffoon. He even does Baxter’s famous malaprops - last week said ‘ferment violence’ for two days before Murray Slaughter must have told him the word is ‘foment’. What a dolt!


83 posted on 03/04/2011 5:36:19 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: The Shrew
BOR gives pompous asses a bad name. I don't think he is half as smart as he thinks he is.

I can't imagine reading one of his books!

I usually turn to TCM when he comes on...have seen some really good old movies lately..."Grand Hotel" last night.

84 posted on 03/04/2011 5:47:35 AM PST by lonestar
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To: The Shrew

Good email!


85 posted on 03/04/2011 6:06:28 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Hildy

Yes, O’Reilly was a total pompous ass. His continuing to berate Rumsfeld by not informing the public - and the fact that HE, THE GREAT O’REILLY didn’t know, was the biggest sin Rummy committed ... I was appalled. There were enough leaks during the war that hurt the cause and the public didn’t need to know everything - especially the great bloviator.


86 posted on 03/04/2011 7:14:35 AM PST by indubitably
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To: re_nortex

That’s when I stopped watching BOR. My bp is much better now.


87 posted on 03/04/2011 7:21:00 AM PST by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: STARWISE
He was so arrogantly disrespectful to Rummy .. such a thin-skinned, sarcastic blowhard.

One would think that BOR had to have known how intelligent a man Rumsfeld is. But, you watch the interview and O'Reilly is so clearly outmatched and then arrogant about being outmatched. He was exactly as you say: a thin-skinned, sarcastic blowhard.

Regards,

TS

88 posted on 03/04/2011 8:14:04 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: tirednvirginia
Does anyone have a clue what is going on in Afghanistan right now? If the public needs to know, than why didn’t BOR tear into Obama like he did Rumsfield?

Exactly!

TS

89 posted on 03/04/2011 8:15:26 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: mountaineer1997
The actual challenges by B.O. were fair. The problem was that the ‘interview’ should have allowed Rumsfeld time to answer without being continually talked-over and insulted by B.O. O’Reilley figuratively bows to our commie president, but feels free to lambast and impugn an actual hero.

I'm not saying the interview shouldn't have been done, but as you point out, the entire format of the interview was disrepectful of Secretary Rumsfeld's time, position and service. You make great points.

Regards,

TS

90 posted on 03/04/2011 8:34:45 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: nutmeg; Gator113
I agree... great e-mail! (I hope you sent it to him)

Thanks for your kind comments. Oh, I sent it to him. Actually both posts 1 and 2 of this thread.

Regards,

TS

91 posted on 03/04/2011 8:37:06 AM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: The Shrew
BOR showed everyone what a dimwitted jerk he really is tonight.

Hey! How can you say that?

He's Irish!

Regards,

TS

He must have been adopted, even the Irish can make a mistake once in awhile.....LOL

92 posted on 03/04/2011 10:33:01 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: The Shrew

I was shocked and disgusted with the way O’Reilly treated a great patriot such as Rumsfeld. O’Reilly should have been ashamed of himself, but he’s too arrogant to have any insights into his own dispicable behaviors As many have already indicated, compare the manner in which O’Reilly interviwed Rumsfeld with the superficial/puff Obama interviews.


93 posted on 03/04/2011 2:34:35 PM PST by GOPBlonde
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