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Personal Income As a “National Resource”: A Look at Michael Moore’s Brave New Collectivist World
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 03/04/2011 2:30:30 PM PST by Michael van der Galien

Sure, we’re all a little spooked about the huge debt our government is accumulating, but everybody can relax now; our favorite anti-American, far-left propagandist, Michael Moore, has the solution. Admittedly, it’ll take some minor changes in the way we think about wealth, which some of you might like, but you’ll get used to it—after all, you’re not greedy, are you?

Moore recently had this to say about the rich:

“They’re sitting on the money, they’re using it for their own — they’re putting it someplace else with no interest in helping you with your life, with that money. We’ve allowed them to take that. That’s not theirs, that’s a national resource, that’s ours. We all have this — we all benefit from this or we all suffer as a result of not having it,” Michael Moore told Laura Flanders of GRITtv.

“I think we need to go back to taxing these people at the proper rates. They need to — we need to see these jobs as something we some, that we collectively own as Americans and you can’t just steal our jobs and take them someplace else,” Moore concluded.

Much has been made about how Moore himself won’t return his own generous share of this “national resource,” but even if he were more magnanimous, his argument wouldn’t be any less outrageous. For one thing, it ignores the fact that the rich already pay a disproportionately high share of the tax burden individually, and US corporate taxes are among the highest in the world, too. For another, we’ve run this experiment several times in American history, and the verdict is in: if you want to raise government revenue and increase prosperity for all Americans, then the direction you want taxes to go is down, not up.

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1 posted on 03/04/2011 2:30:33 PM PST by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

No matter who runs it or what they do...It never works!


2 posted on 03/04/2011 2:31:52 PM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Michael van der Galien
Is Michael Moore's stuff a "national resource" too?

Or is it just the stuff of people he doesn't like?

3 posted on 03/04/2011 2:32:35 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Michael van der Galien
I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.: We were attacked by a large, socialist weasel.
4 posted on 03/04/2011 2:38:20 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Hey, Michael. Send me some money. We’re pretty hard up at the moment, and I need to some insulation work in the cellar.

What’s that you say? You belong to the people, so you don’t need to contribute?

Oh, sorry.


5 posted on 03/04/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Michael van der Galien
Here is the Vulcan mind-meld translation of the language of the Left: you have no right to live. Therefore, you have no right to the fruits of your labors. By their lights, you are no more than a thing, an animal, or a machine. A 'resource'. There’s the last 200 years of leftist philosophy in a nutshell.

And now you have the reason why Leftists aer unfit to live in a free society. Ever.

6 posted on 03/04/2011 2:43:21 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Michael van der Galien

I went on Moore’s website this morning and used the contact button to send him an e-mail stating that if he is so concerned with spreading the wealth around, he could send me a portion of his big ol’ pile of money, and he could contact my e-mail for info on where to send it. As yet I have recieved no reply. Maybe I shouldn’t have called him a stinking hypocrite. Oh, well. Live and learn ;)


7 posted on 03/04/2011 2:48:30 PM PST by klipper1
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To: Michael van der Galien

Socialism is the fraudulent idea that people can live at the expense of each other. Any student of the Ten Commandments should spot the first two that this violates, the ones that protect private property from theft and coveting. That we will all be better off if we are coerced into such a system is a grand lie. If that were not so bad, the broader context of socialism is to bring about a secular Utopia, which is idolatry.


8 posted on 03/04/2011 2:52:43 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

Socialism is based on the destruction of private property rights.

Without property rights, there cannot be a free market in the exchange of goods and services.

Without a free market, without a willing buyer and a willing seller, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know the real price of anything.

Without the price, it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to make the necessary economic calculation, that is to know when the inputs to an activity (labor or raw materials) costs more or less than the output of an activity (the value of the thing produced or service performed).

Without the economic calculation, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an economic activity to make a profit and thus be sustainable. Conversely, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an unprofitable economic activity to be sustainable.

Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have resources from which to feed, clothe and house those who are involved in the activity.

Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE, to have excess resources to set aside in the form of savings.

Without savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have capital to invest in new economic activities.

Without the ability to have property rights to those savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to evaluate all of the other possible economic activities to find the ones that carries the least risk when compared to their anticipated return, and to properly allocate savings to the most promising investments.

Without new economic activity and without the ability for others to invest as it suits the saver, the economy cannot have the opportunity nor the resources with which to adapt to changing circumstances, let alone to provide jobs and resources for the next generation.

Without honest money, government is free to destroy the very means of accounting for and exchanging wealth. Without the assurance that money will retain its value, people will not save but instead will either consume excess wealth or will store it in forms like fixed assets that preclude investment in new economic activity.

In other words, without property rights, a free market, price information that allows economic calculation of profit, the ability to save with the assurance those savings are free to be invested when and where the saver sees fit, and without honest money, a sustainable economy is IMPOSSIBLE.

Without a sustainable economy, it is IMPOSSIBLE for humans to exist. This is exactly the reason that North Koreans are reduced to foraging for bark and grass to fill their empty stomachs. Their government forbids property rights, forbids a free market, destroys price information, confiscates savings, forbids investment and has no economic growth.

Liberty, property, profit, investment, capital and honest money are the only means of creating a sustainable economy. All other ways have been tried and have failed utterly. Yet, somehow, property rights, profit, capital and honest money are still considered to be evil, particularly in the thinking of people still yearning for the perfect socialist Utopia. Socialism is in reality the economy of death.


9 posted on 03/04/2011 2:54:04 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Michael van der Galien

“Moore recently had this to say about the rich: “They’re sitting on the money, they’re using it for their own — they’re putting it someplace else with no interest in helping you with your life, with that money. We’ve allowed them to take that. That’s not theirs, that’s a national resource, that’s ours.”

He’s talking like he’s not one of the rich.


10 posted on 03/04/2011 2:54:58 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Noumenon
Therefore, you have no right to the fruits of your labors. By their lights, you are no more than a thing, an animal, or a machine. A 'resource'. There’s the last 200 years of leftist philosophy in a nutshell.

Thus, the "death panels" in Obamacare.

They are designed to address the fundamental question: Will you be worth more in taxes than you will earn in entitlement payments?

If not, you're dead meat. Literally.

11 posted on 03/04/2011 2:56:58 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Michael van der Galien
I've instructed the phone company, the gas company, and my mortgage lender to send my bills to Michael Moore, since his dinero es mia dinero.

I'll make my own car payment. I'm not greedy.

12 posted on 03/04/2011 3:01:06 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Michael Moore a communist? Who knew?


13 posted on 03/04/2011 3:08:24 PM PST by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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Even scarier than this is the fact that this meme was planted in "Forbes" magazine a few months ago when a columnist argued that 401-k and IRA money were "lazy capital" better allocated by the government in the form of US Retirement Bonds.

This also ties to a 2004 scholarly paper issued by the St. Louis Fed making the case for government confiscation of 401-k and IRA money in the event of a financial emergency and banking crisis, in which case it could be diverted into government bonds.

14 posted on 03/04/2011 3:32:14 PM PST by Publius
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To: Michael van der Galien
Then let all raid fatass’s bank account
15 posted on 03/04/2011 3:36:37 PM PST by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: okie01
They are designed to address the fundamental question: Will you be worth more in taxes than you will earn in entitlement payments?

If not, you're dead meat. Literally.

If they acquire the power they're really after, they'll make it happen right then and there. Monsters, all of them. Unfit to live.

16 posted on 03/04/2011 3:52:48 PM PST by Noumenon ("We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.")
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To: Michael van der Galien



When he was born the world got pig snot.




17 posted on 03/04/2011 3:59:41 PM PST by Lady Jag (Keep the 'ICk" in Democratic)
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To: Michael van der Galien

I wonder if Michael Moore fills out the 1040EZ form or if he has a tax accountant.


18 posted on 03/04/2011 3:59:42 PM PST by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: Noumenon
There’s the last 200 years of leftist philosophy in a nutshell.

And now you have the reason why Leftists are unfit to live in a free society. Ever.

I become more convinced each passing day that the "nutshell" of the philosophy of the Left can be summarized as the total abrogation of all Natural Rights and Natural Law.

BTW, how is the book coming along?

19 posted on 03/04/2011 4:00:56 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Michael van der Galien

If I hadn’t heard him spouting this dribble on the news this morning, I’d swear this is satire. Even Michael Moore-on can’t be this stupid , right? WRONG, he is that stupid and then some.


20 posted on 03/04/2011 4:02:11 PM PST by YankeeReb
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