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To: golux
I say that this is what you get when, through the dummying down of public schools, the empowering of the NEA, the embracing of criminal culture, and the installation of sweeping transgenerational welfare and housing programs, you rob people of their basic pride and decency.

and the parents of these men/boys bear no responsibility for the upbringing of them. blame it all on the schools. The schools have them for 6 hours a day, 9 months a year for up to 13 years. Yeah blame them rather than the parents that actually gave birth to the little felons.

38 posted on 03/12/2011 4:13:52 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga

You say, “and the parents of these men/boys bear no responsibility for the upbringing of them. blame it all on the schools. The schools have them for 6 hours a day, 9 months a year for up to 13 years. Yeah blame them rather than the parents that actually gave birth to the little felons.”

I agree with you on that one. Schools are being held responsible for societal issues. The government pays welfare mothers to put out a dozen children whose only purpose in a classroom is to create chaos and, somehow, the schools are to blame. One major problem with FR is all the “home school” believers who seem to actually BELIEVE the schools created these problems. My children attend public school and don’t rape and pillage. If you want to home-school, then go ahead but stop being so blind as to who is to blame for societal issues.


61 posted on 03/12/2011 4:43:39 AM PST by onevoter
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To: verga
The schools have them for 6 hours a day, 9 months a year for up to 13 years. Yeah blame them rather than the parents that actually gave birth to the little felons.

It took several generations for the effects we see now to happen. When decency and morals were shunned by society including educators in the 60’s, 70's & 80's and replaced with self esteem and self empowerment, we bred and trained a nation of selfish children, parents and now even grandparents.
Self gratification is foremost for many today and the self esteem training they received 6 to 9 hours a day for 12 years does not allow them to take ownership of anything that requires sacrifice or patience.
95 posted on 03/12/2011 5:35:20 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (For government to give anyone a benefit they must first take it from someone else.)
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To: verga

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108 posted on 03/12/2011 5:58:43 AM PST by wintertime
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To: verga; golux; onevoter; John 3_19-21
The schools have them for 6 hours a day, 9 months a year for up to 13 years. Yeah blame them rather than the parents that actually gave birth to the little felons.

So?...Let's examine two points:

1) Just how much time do parents have to undo the GODLESS indoctrination in secular humanism that children receive in the government temples ( oops! "schools")?

Even teens need 9 to 10 hours of sleep. The youngest children need 11 to 12 hours.

Add to that 1 to 2 or more hours just traveling to and from school on the prison bus ( oops! "school bus") in which they will be in the company of other children who have been indoctrinated to think godlessly.

When they return home from their godless school they will need 1 or 2 for large muscle exercise and play ( again often in the company of children schooled in the godless schools).

There is homework using materials written by secular humanists who push a godless worldview. That is another 1 to 2 hours or more.

If adults, after their busy day would enjoy an hour or two to chat with friends through the Internet, phone, or texting, or zone out watching TV then children would too! ( Children though will most likely be socializing with friends who have also been indoctrinated to think and reason godlessly in their godless government temples ( oops! "schools") of secular worship.

Oh!...And forget any meaningful bonding time with the parent during the hectic morning rush to get the kids ready for school.

Now throw in a few afterschool activities: theater ( Vagina Monologues anyone? ), dance, music lessons, sports..etc..often in the company of other godlessly indoctrinated kids.

So?...Where is this wonderful bonding time that parents have to undo the government proselytizing of children in godless secular worship? Hm?

2) And....Why should parents be forced to undo the damage of the government proselytizing of their children in the government religion of godless secular humanism? Why should the taxpayer be forced to pay for the ESTABLISHMENT of the government religion of godless secular humanist worship?

The religious bias found in government schooling can NOT be fixed! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A RELIGIOUSLY NEUTRAL EDUCATION!

A school can either be godless or God-centered in its worldview. Neither is religiously neutral in content or consequences for the child or the nation.

There is only one possible solution: We must start the process of completely privatizing universal K-12 education. Conservatives MUST MUST MUST work to see that every child in the nation has access to a conservative PRIVATE education that thoroughly upholds the child's specific Judeo Christian beliefs and our nation's founding principles.

And..Yeah!...I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit. Unless the government temples of godless secular worship are shut down our nation is doomed. I seriously believe this.

(golux;onevoter;John 3_19-21 ...as a courtesy since they responded to your post.)

124 posted on 03/12/2011 7:51:26 AM PST by wintertime
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