Skip to comments.Rush Limbaugh: What's the Problem with Palin?
Posted on 03/14/2011 4:54:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, there's a story at Politico today. I'm gonna have to turn to some of you for some help. I thought I had this figured out, but it's gone beyond my ability to explain this, and that is this incessant, inexplicable, growing hatred of Sarah Palin by people on our side. The Politico story here: "'She's Becoming Al Sharpton, Alaska Edition.'" This is by Jonathan Martin and John Harris. "Sarah Palin has played the sexism card, accusing critics of chauvinism against a strong woman. She has played the class card, dismissing the Bush family as 'blue bloods' and complaining that she is the target of snobbery by people who dislike her simply because she is 'not so hoity-toity.'
"Most famously, she has played the victim card -- never more vividly than when she invoked the loaded phrase 'blood libel' against liberals and media commentators in the wake of the Gabrielle Giffords shooting. Palin's flamboyant rhetoric always has thrilled supporters, but lately it is coming at a new cost: a backlash, not from liberals but from some of the country's most influential conservative commentators and intellectuals. Palin's politics of grievance and group identity, according to these critics, is a betrayal of conservative principles. For decades, it was a standard line of the right that liberals cynically promoted victimhood to achieve their goals and that they practiced the politics of identity -- race, sex and class -- over ideas.
"Among those taking aim at Palin in recent interviews with POLITICO are George F. Will, the elder statesman of conservative columnists; Peter Wehner, a top strategist in George W. Bush's White House, and Heather Mac Donald, a leading voice with the right-leaning Manhattan Institute. Matt Labash, a longtime writer for the Weekly Standard, said that because of Palin's frequent appeals to victimhood and group grievance, 'She's becoming Al Sharpton, Alaska edition.' Conservative intellectuals, while having scant ability to drive large blocs of votes on their own, traditionally have played an outsize role in the early stages of Republican nominating contests.
"Their approval has lent credence to politicians from Ronald Reagan onward hoping to portray themselves as faithful adherents to an idea-driven conservative movement. This year, the conservative intelligentsia doesn't just tend to dislike Palin -- many fear that her rise would represent the triumph of an intellectually empty brand of populism and the death of ideas as an engine of the right. 'This is a problem for the movement,' said Will about what Palin represents. 'For conservatism, because it is a creedal movement, this is a disease to which it is susceptible.' The line of modern conservatism that can be traced back to National Review founder William F. Buckley would be broken by Palin, Will said.
"'There's no Reagan without Goldwater, no Goldwater without National Review and no National Review without Buckley -- and the contrast between [Buckley] and Ms. Palin is obvious.' Asked if the GOP would remain the party of ideas if Palin captures the nomination, Will said: 'The answer is emphatically no.' Columnist Charles Krauthammer, without talking about Palin specifically, noted that 'there's healthy and unhealthy populism,' and there is concern about the rise of the latter. 'When populism becomes purely anti-intellectual, it can become unhealthy and destructive,' said Krauthammer." Pete "Wehner," who's a good friend of mine, "now a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, cited the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan's famous 1980 declaration that the GOP had become 'a party of ideas.' ...
"'Conservatives are very proud of that,' Wehner said. 'But she seems at best disinterested in ideas or least lacks the ability to articulate any philosophical justification for them. She relies instead on shallow talking points.' Does Palin care about what conservative commentators say about her? So far, the answer would appear to be no. ... Palin defenders say she has good reason to be dismissive of elite critics -- she has outpaced their low expectations at every turn." You know what I think? I'm trying to figure this all out. I can understand the left despising this woman. That would make perfect sense.
But this rising vitriol from the "conservative intellectual" bench is mystifying to me. (sigh) I don't get this comparison to Al Sharpton. I don't know where that comes from. That's Matt Labash at the Weekly Standard. I don't know where that comes from. What does Sharpton do? Would somebody point out one similarity between Al Sharpton and Sarah Palin? Where is the Tawana Brawley in Sarah Palin's life? Where is that incident? Where are all the megaphone-lead rallies and protests? Where are those things? Where is the complement to the National Action Network and its annual convention in whatever else?
Where is this? Where are the lawsuits that Sharpton files against people? Well, they claim that she's playing her cards. Where is her tax cheating, for example? Who is Sarah Palin shaking down? I mean, if we're gonna start making these comparisons... (interruption) What was it you just shouted at me, H.R.? Well, that's why they say she's portraying herself as a victim because she's firing back. They are saying that she should just shut up. In the aftermath of being blamed for this Arizona thing, she should have just shut up. The fact that she responded and reacted to it means that she's feeling sorry for herself and is portraying herself as a victim -- and that's something that the left does: Portray themselves as victims.
She shoulda just been quiet and let the story ride itself out and let it go away and so forth as it would have. I used to think that a lot of this was just fear-based. (sigh) I've really had a tough time understanding this. To be honest, folks, I've had a tough time. I'm still not sure. I'm wondering if some of this is not rooted in the fear that our "conservative intellectuals" have that our current crop of Republican presidential hopefuls is kind of weak; and that, therefore, she may be the most popular among 'em. But it's like I told you: I love telling this story. A couple friends of mine who had recently met Palin -- I've never met her. I've spoken to her on the phone once when we interviewed her for Limbaugh Letter, the newsletter when she had her book out.
Other than that I'd never. I've never met her. She did tell a funny story when I did interview her. She said that I met her father out in Palm Springs at one of the first two Bob Hope Chrysler Classic golf tournaments I played in as an amateur that some guy came up and asked me to sign a copy of my book for his daughter. Well, it turned out to be her dad getting the book signed for her and that she has that book in her office or her library in her home in Alaska. That's the extent. I don't know her. I've never spent any time with her.
But these people that I know here had spent an evening with her, and couple days later I met them for dinner -- and, folks, these are rock-ribbed conservatives, huge donors and fundraisers, Reaganites. Their pedigree is unquestionable, and they said to me, "You know, dear, we met Sarah Palin. I think you would agree, dear, she just doesn't have the heft. She's much prettier in person than even on TV -- you can't escape noticing that -- but, I don't know. I think she's just not presidential. Do you think, dear?" And, you know, I recalled what the circumstance was here. This is not a place to start an argument. I didn't care to, didn't want to spend that kind of time there.
I said, "Yeah, you know what? Give me four more years of Obama, instead of Palin."
"W-w-what? What do you mean by that, dear?"
"Well, Sarah Palin is so damn embarrassing, I don't know how I could vote for her. I might not even be able to say I'm a Republican if she gets the nomination!"
"Um, I'm not quite following you, dear."
"Well, she's so embarrassing, I guess if it's Sarah Palin or Obama? Hell, give me Obama!" I finally said, "Look, I don't understand all this. THE PROBLEM IS OBAMA! The Democrat Party is destroying the freaking country -- sorry to yell here -- and we're sitting here sniping over Sarah Palin? I'd vote for Elmer Fudd if the Republicans nominated him, if Obama's the Democrat." So obviously there are elements of this that are personal that I don't understand. Look, I could understand not wanting her to be the nominee, I can understand thinking there's somebody better, but this? There's an all-out assault on her by our guys that puzzles me -- and now this latest to say that she's Al Sharpton? Our version of Al Sharpton in Alaska?
So you guys gotta help me out out there. Somebody's gonna have to explain this to me because it makes no sense. You know, I'm totally immersed in logic and common sense, and some of this doesn't register that way for me. I don't get it. I can think of -- I'm not going to mention any names here -- the Republican field, what is it, nine or ten people that are said to be interested in it. There are four or five of them that can't hold a candle to her, as far as I'm concerned. But these guys don't think there's one. So I'm thinking: What did she do to them? Does she embarrass them? (interruption) Okay. (interruption) If she does embarrass them, what? (interruption) Okay, well, of course the liberals are gonna say she's stupid. That's enough for us to say, "Okay, we don't want her," 'cause the liberals are rejecting her so we've gotta dump her? Okay.
All right. Fine. Fine. Well, anybody else got any ideas, I'm open to 'em.
RUSH: Okay, I've read the e-mails, and they're pouring in. And many of them from the public e-mail account, ElRushbo@eibnet.com. "You idiot! You're supposed to be the one with the answers. You're asking us why everybody hates Sarah Palin, you idiot. If we know, you should know." Some of them say: "You stupid fool, don't you know it's because they're jealous of her?" That seems to be, by the way, the number one explanation from people answering the question. I haven't had a chance to read 'em all. They're coming in here by the hundreds, every 20 seconds or so, but they're jealous of her or they fear her. Of course all of that's true. But look, I think I get it. I think the simple explanation here is, if you want to be an accredited intellectual, one of the tests is, do you hate Sarah Palin? Do you think she represents a pox? Is she a danger to whatever? If you do, then you will pass the test and you are, therefore, an accredited intellectual.
It's sort of like the whole business of shibboleth. If you're an intellectual, you should know what a shibboleth is. It's from the Bible. It's a Hebrew word that very few Hebrews could pronounce correctly. If you could pronounce it correctly, you were an intellectual. It was a test to see if you were an actual member of the tribe. Well, right now Sarah Palin is the intellectuals' favorite shibboleth. If you want to prove you are an intellectual, you have to say Sarah Palin's an idiot. That's as much of an explanation as anything else. I know she threatens the old boys club; she represents and associates with average people whereas these people don't; all those things that we have mentioned and pondered before on the program.
Here's what you need to know. This is what you need to know. And, folks, do not doubt me. Some of you weren't alive in the mid-seventies. Some of you weren't old enough in the mid-seventies to remember. But Ronald Reagan was just as hated by the intellectual class then as Palin is now. Now, I'm not saying that Palin is Reagan. I'm just telling you that Reagan didn't have the pedigree. I have warned you several times on this program that even during Reagan's presidency, many of the conservative intellectuals -- Buckley was an exception -- and many of the Republican liberals just despised the guy, 'cause he embarrassed 'em. His folksiness, his connection to the pro-life community, he embarrassed 'em. His "the bombing starts in five minutes," calling the Soviets the evil empire, I mean the left all hated that, but so did a lot of people in the Republican Party.
Krauthammer used to write speeches for Walter Mondale. Yeah. Howard Baker was his choice in '76 or '80, I forget which. George Will was a late arrival to the Reagan revolution and eventually became a close friend and associate, but he was not -- (interruption) well, I don't want to bring myself into this, H.R. I mean what do I have to gain by saying they were cool to my arrival? Buckley was not. But Buckley was the exception. What's interesting about Buckley is, you know, folks, I'll tell you something. There's something fascinating going on in the conservative intellectual media movement. One of the things that Buckley did -- I think this is a factor, too, in a way -- within this conclave, if you will, the cardinal of conservative colleges loved Buckley because he told the Birchers to go to heck, he threw the Birchers out of the conservative movement thereby sparing the conservative movement any association and accompanying embarrassment. I mean he filleted 'em. He wrote piece after piece. He sent the Birchers packing. Well, there are, I think, elements of the conservative intellectual movement today who are looking to be the next Buckley excommunicating the next Bircher, whoever it might be, movement individual, what have you.
So it could be a little bit of that, even though Palin's not a Bircher by any stretch. She's not a conspiracy kook or theorist. So Buckley remains. Buckley was born wealthy, silver spoon in his mouth, but he was not an enemy of flyover country. He was not disdainful. Buckley, I remember, invited me -- I don't want to make this about me. But that is an apt analogy about Buckley, and there's still a lot of people trying to be Buckley today throughout the literary conservative intelligentsia. But for me to sit here and say that the Washington intellectual elite feels the same way about me that they do Sarah, I have a lot of people who tell me that, but I don't even want to go there because this is not about me. There's not a Politico story about me. This is Palin being our version of Al Sharpton. I just checked, I got an e-mail from a guy in Virginia that said, "Well, wait a minute, the left loves Sharpton. How is this not really a compliment? I never heard the left criticize Sharpton. The left loves him. He's one of their favorite rabble-rousers." All true.
RUSH: Oh, it always amuses me. On the left, just to kind of combat this notion that they're the smartest people around, these intellectuals, some of the people on the left who despise Sarah Palin loved John Edwards. Now, if there's ever a disconnect, John Edwards, as a human being, is clearly lacking. And yet there were people who thought John Edwards was the beginning and end of everything, just the cat's meow, whatever, who hate Sarah Palin. By the same token, some of these conservative intellectuals were totally smitten with Obama at the outset, remember? Totally smitten with Obama. In the case of David Brooks, it was because of the freaking crease in his pants. He said that. "The crease in his pants made me know he was going to be president." And these are the intellectuals. But to these guys Obama was like them. They were like Obama at the outset. I don't think too many of them want to be perceived as like Obama now, but the outset. But Palin, never. They never see themselves as like Sarah Palin, for obvious reasons, be it the pedigree, the education, all the other things.
Read the Background Material...
Politico: 'She's becoming Al Sharpton, Alaska edition'
30 years of blaming Reagan for the AIDS epidemic and yet bath houses, bug chasing parties, and a lack of use of condoms among homosexuals are still commonplace.
No cure has been found either. For all of their talk that “Reagan didn’t do enough”, they have yet to fall in line with ANY proposed solutions and even sought the legalization of one of the chief causes of the spread of AIDS. They’ve also sought to “destigmatize” the homosexual community by permitting them to freely donate blood, thus putting a larger population at risk (and contaminated transfusions have occurred).
That's it in a nutshell, Rush.
The media are great at finding an obscure meaning to a common expression and using it to smear the latest Republican to use it, aren't they?
As somebody said She got all of the right people not liking her
Palin stands head, shoulders, and torso above the rest. Period. End of discussion.
You said it, Brother FReeper. And it's becoming more and more obvious every day.
Palin is ALSO the only potential candidate who has been exhaustively, brutally vetted by a hostile press without cease for at least two years, and any skeletons in her closet have long been outed. She is not only campaign-ready in that way to a degree that no other Republican can even touch, she has ALSO prove herself to be diamond-tough with grace under fire. No other candidate has even remotely shown such asbestos resilience.
She's coolly competent, courageous, not distracted by abstractions and obfuscations. She won't brook murdering bastards, you betcha!
"So that was Mrs. Lundegaard on the floor in there. And I guess that was your accomplice in the wood chipper. And those three people in Brainerd. And for what? For a little bit of money. There's more to life than a little money, you know. Don'tcha know that? And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well. I just don't understand it."
I know Rush isn't comparing her to Elmer and I'm not either, but that statement sums up pretty much how I feel. Palin may not be the absolute best out there, but wherever she is on the scale, she's leaps and bounds above the Communist jug ears. I know the mantra is not to settle any more and I DO want the most conservative person out there, but if it's Elmer in the general I'm going Fudd all the way. A first term Jug Ears has been a disaster--our country won't make it through a lame duck Jug Ears totally unleashed.
Please don't panic, Cicero!
We have at least until next Fall until the ultimate collapse. I hope. That's what? Practically 6 months? Plenty of time. Who's on "Idol" tonight?
My take is that such was the case with British voters regarding Margaret Thatcher - but she did not earn the moniker, The Iron Lady by being too feminine.
And, if I remember correctly, she served as Prime Minister longer than most - second longest in history (I think.)
She is not only campaign-ready in that way to a degree that no other Republican can even touch, she has ALSO prove herself to be diamond-tough with grace under fire. No other candidate has even remotely shown such asbestos resilience.
Damn, you can write, Finny. Not only is what you said the brutal truth, you said it in a way that really sticks. Well done.
If we told you, we would have to kill you.
Ain't there no "Google" on your machine, boy? No Liberry in your town? If WFB were alive, you would have a knot in your mainsheet right about now. Look that up too, while you're at it.
Expect something more like this:
For the record, I don't run him down behind his back, aside from mentioning his well-deserved (and very public) reputation as PDSer #1 on Free Republic. He hardly needs to be pinged for that.
If I really want to insult someone, I'm man enough to do it to their face.
‘She’s prettier in person than on TV..’
My God. She must be a total knock-out.
I agree with that observation. If Palin doesn't run, the enthusiasm and the money won't either. I don't see anyone else in the Republican stable who can generate the level of excitement and passion that Sarah can.
If she doesn't run, millions of conservative voters will stay on the couch, and wait to see what happens. Most will begrudgingly vote for our nominee in November, but that's about it.
I, for one, will not be motivated to get out and campaign for anyone else out there.
The GOP old guard fear the Tea Parties and Palin as much as liberals do. They know they are short for politics if the Tea Party gets its way. They are just circling the wagons. They are perfectly happy to be in power as the minority with liberals running the show and know their power will be reduced if the Tea Parties gets control.
There are second-tier candidates whom I’d be just as excited about. DeMint, Bachmann and Cain, for example. But I believe that none of those have a chance. Bob
Reagan didn't have much use for conservative 'intellectuals' either... mutually unimpressed.
And that might be it - Palin will "talk over" the experts and press - right to the American people - just like Reagan did. It means our power brokers won't be doing much brokering... might be why they don't like her.
Glad to hear sneaker. I like West for VP.
“She will be the next president if I have anything to say about it. Look at who her enemies are and choose a side.”
And let all the people say, Amen!!!
Hear, hear bro
...In 1978, Krauthammer quit medical practice to direct planning in psychiatric research for the Jimmy Carter administration, and began contributing to The New Republic magazine. During the presidential campaign of 1980, Krauthammer served as a speech writer to Vice President Walter Mondale....
...In January 1981, Krauthammer began his journalistic career, joining The New Republic as a writer and editor....
...on domestic issues, Krauthammer is a supporter of legalized abortion; an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a “false conflict;” a supporter of embryonic stem cell research using embryos discarded by fertility clinics with restrictions in its applications; and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation....
Yeah, quite the conservative...
1 posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 4:46:07 PM by 2ndDivisionVet
When we got around to discussing politics (usually in the first 5-10 minutes for me, I'm so conservative, liberal men do not interest me) he made some snide jokes about Reagan. When I spiritedly disagreed, he responded with, "Surely you must be kidding! Don't tell me you voted for this dolt twice!"
I quickly decided life was short and dropped him asap.
I respect and admire all of the candidates you named, and would support any one of them, should they win the nomination - but - none of them has the executive resume or character qualities to compare with Sarah Palin.
I see Sarah Palin as the very best of our best. When it's time for war, you don't nominate tribal councilors or village elders to the position of Chief Hun, when you've got Attila in your ranks.
Not only do we need to win the battle for choosing the next Chief, that Chief must lead us to victory against the Horde, and everything that stands against us. I only see one warrior amongst us with the right kind of grit to do this.
I slightly prefer Pence, but that is now a moot point. Go Sarah, go.
That's right. I've watched them when I was working in DC. DC is their home town and they make a good living there whether the Democrats or the Republicans are in power. They don't care which party is in power.
Sarah Palin would not be one of them and would shake up the whole town. That's why they are so scared.
” I got a sick feeling when I heard him say we were going to be a kinder, gentler nation.”
That was the announcement that the party was over. And junior topped it with his “family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande”, “jobs Americans won’t do” and “Islam is a Religion of Peace” idiocy. Stay out da Bushes!
“Buckley embraced him because he saw in Reagan a great force for good, and a kindred spirit of a kind he rarely encountered during his years at Yale, or for that matter, during his long tenure at National Review.”
There is a tendency by Rush to greatly overstate Buckley’s virtue and importance to the conservative movement. He was phoning it in and consorting with the left before Reagan was elected. On the other hand the old guard at National Review included Bill Rusher who led the Draft Goldwater movement, which is where Reagan became a national political figure. Some of that NR crew were more important for Reagan than WFB.
What are you trying to say?
Taking imbecilic potshots at conservative leaders while hiding behind political anonymity is not only cowardly but the tactic of a leftist plant or troll.
Stop being a bitter misogynist and tell me,who do you like better?
I am sure you have SOME control over your PDS—well that's a fib really...
>> Timing is everything.
“Look at who her enemies are and choose a side.”
Can’t argue with that, she certainly has all the right enemies. My idiot, genius, computer nerd stepson who knows all the buzzwords but can’t cope with life without a keeper despises her. I have never known him to be right about anything to do with politics or government. If he ever says one good thing about her she will lose my vote. That middle aged boy knows less about history than a Raccoon does but he thinks he could counsel Henry Kissinger about world affairs.
Rush should spend the next month exposing the treachery of Boehner and Cantor to the Republican masses, many of whom have never heard of either.
Clark M. Clifford called Reagan the “amicable dunce,” and millions believed Clifford but not enough to elect Mondale!
It’s not that we don’t like Palin. She is most attractive and personable. She was not a good debater with Biden. She let Katie Couric trick her. I don’t think women as a whole will support her for President. Her family life is controversial too. I don’t think she is likely to win more than five or six states, Goldwater style if nominated. I also shudder at her party rivals for the nomination, all of whom are nearly sickening. I will of course vote for her over Obama if the GOP nominates her, and I don’t believe they will.
Let me say this as briefly as possible. The people who think Palin is stupid are the same people who think “rednecks” are stupid and most of them would be looking for a redneck to kill them something to eat if the SHTF.
I’m with you. I’m on your side, friend.
Most of them are EINOs, EDUCATED in name only, holders of worthless degrees that represent less real education than a year’s experience washing cars. When it gets really bad and it’s coming, count on it, they will be dependent on someone who has a master’s in country boy survival techniques from professor Red Neckerson’s university.
Is that cow plop of hair on George Will’s head a toupee? What could be the thing up his rear that keeps him so stiff and uncomfortable?
He may be about three sheets in the wind and not able to Google very well.
BTW, has el Rushmo turned over a bit of a new leaf lately? Frankly, I had written him off as a bit of a GOP establishmentarian. He has even been making tentative forays into the legitimacy issue! Must be the new wife.He is on the money about Palin-Hatred. Right now, she's the best we have.
Me? I want to see Petraeus on the ticket. Where I don't know. IMNSHO, what we need now is ... to mix a metaphor ...is a dark horse out of the blue: sort of an American Pinochet with charm.
Love Sarah. BUT have yet to hear her address a real issue ...like closing down the EPA and the Department of Education, the 10th Amendment, a $300 Billion Budget reduction, a three-year 15% reduction in the Federal non-military workforce, a new tax policy, troops to the Mexican Border, Anchor Baby Citizenship for the offspring of illegal aliens and visa visitors, a sane energy policy with an increase in refinery capacity, (Not a word from her about hung-up drilling permits ... with gas near $5.00) and my personal issue: i.e., ending the ban on lead shot by executive order.(Hey everyone need a pet issue!)
Furthermore, during her "campaign" with McLinsane, she and her staff ignored the facts of Obama's Kenyan Campaign for Odinga, his proven lies to the Bar of the State of Illinois and accepting mandatory "retirement," rather than face a hearing, and then after her shabby dismissal by McInane, turning around and endorsing him in AZ.
My biggest worry about Sarah? Her advisors. I already know erxactly how bad the Magic Marxist Mulatto from Mombasa is. What is The Program, The Plan, Who's The Leader, who' got a Clue as to the specifics needed to literally save the Republic? Don't see one candidate answering the questions yet. Do see, given the the mind-blowing ignorance of the American electorate, the very real possibility of the Obama Régime lasting until 2016, perhaps with a RINO-heavy Republican Congress.
Where is she on this Boehner/Cantor cave in on the budget and the defunding of Obamacare? I don't want to know any more about Michelle from Sarah, either. Issues, Sarah Baby! You have my vote, BTW.
“And, do tell, whos your magical candidate for 2012??”
I like three guys right now: Mitch Daniels, Marc Rubio and Chris Christie.
Any one of them would be an immeasurable improvement over glamour girl, nincompoop Palin.
Here we go again, thanks to the dereliction of duty on the part of the SCOTUS. They did not even have to intervene. All they need to do is order discovery in the appropriate lower court.
This needs to be solved and not by default.
It’s too bad that more FR posters were not so vocal about the folly of war in Iraq in 2002. Countless valuable posters on FR were banned at that time for voicing that very opinion.
Mitch Daniels is the only qualified candidate of the three you mention, even though he is the least charismatic of the three.
Chris Christie is great for New Jersey, but probably would not play well across the country. He doesn’t have much executive experience, and some of his activities with respect to his brother are questionable. Plus he is very seriously overweight.
Marc Rubio is from South Florida, which may in fact be even more corrupt than even New Jersey. He’s got a pretty face, and a nice story, and not much else, except a lot of questionable backers.
You interpret oorrectly.
Egads. Mr. social truce, Mr. Not an NBC and Mr. gun control.