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Chevy Volt: The Car From Atlas Shrugged Motors
Forbes ^ | March 16, 2011 | Patrick Michaels,

Posted on 03/17/2011 8:07:04 PM PDT by fightinJAG

Who is going to buy all these cars?

The Chevrolet Volt is beginning to look like it was manufactured by Atlas Shrugged Motors, where the government mandates everything politically correct, rewards its cronies and produces junk steel.

This is the car that subsidies built. General Motors lobbied for a $7,500 tax refund for all buyers, under the shaky (if not false) promise that it was producing the first all-electric mass-production vehicle.

At least that's what we were once told. Sitting in a Volt that would not start at the 2010 Detroit Auto Show, a GM engineer swore to me that the internal combustion engine in the machine only served as a generator, kicking in when the overnight-charged lithium-ion batteries began to run down. GM has continually revised downward its estimates of how far the machine would go before the gas engine fired, and now says 25 to 50 miles.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: efv; recharging

1 posted on 03/17/2011 8:07:06 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

If you really need or want a hybrid:

2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid $25,795 MSRP, 40mpg, 206hp, seats 5. Built in Alabama, USA by non-union workers.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/sonata-hybrid/


2 posted on 03/17/2011 8:08:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: fightinJAG

The downward revisions on mileage happened after they drove it outside in cold weather and realized that batteries don’t work as well.


3 posted on 03/17/2011 8:10:00 PM PDT by jq2
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To: fightinJAG

A well connected corporation getting government support and buying its own product makes perfect economic sense.

lol


4 posted on 03/17/2011 8:12:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man! for 3k more than they want for the Volt you could have a new Vette!


5 posted on 03/17/2011 8:14:23 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: fightinJAG

Not to mention the fact that when you get into an accident with a vehicle made of Reardon Metal, you get wiped out.


6 posted on 03/17/2011 8:14:51 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: fightinJAG; a fool in paradise; JoeProBono
Shrugged?


7 posted on 03/17/2011 8:14:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: fightinJAG

Still shaking my head at this one. There are so many hybrid cars out there now and they come up with this piece of crap. I read somewhere that the old Saturn electric vehicle (Ev1) they made for a couple of years in the 90s performed far better than this Volt.


8 posted on 03/17/2011 8:16:44 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

It’s a scam.

The Gubermint will buy them up, with our money.


9 posted on 03/17/2011 8:19:10 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Revolting cat!

Hep Me Hep me! I am Hepnotized!


10 posted on 03/17/2011 8:20:06 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Revolting cat!

She looks like she has St. Vitus dance.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 8:20:24 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hyundai has come a long way. I would buy one. Not a hybrid or electric anything but a Hyundai yes.


12 posted on 03/17/2011 8:22:25 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: fightinJAG

It doesn’t sound like the government’s “Clunkers for Cash” program is going to take off. Of course, a lot of people may be waiting for the pink Energizer Bunny Special Edition model.


13 posted on 03/17/2011 8:23:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you thought the lame duck Congress was fun, you're gonna love a lame duck Kenyan president.)
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To: fightinJAG
I can't wait to point and laugh at the first person I see driving one. According to current sales, it may be sometime in mid 2017.

The dopes are already promising this SUV Volt. Can you imagine how worthless an SUV would be based on the small Volt? GM SUX.


14 posted on 03/17/2011 8:25:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: enduserindy
Ping. Bought one for my daughter while she was in college. It lasted me another ten years. BTW, it was used when I bought it.
15 posted on 03/17/2011 8:28:09 PM PDT by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: mylife

“The Gubermint will buy them up, with our money.”

....yep....I expect the Obama administration has already put the word out to all government agencies to put Volts in their auto fleets.


16 posted on 03/17/2011 8:28:20 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: mylife

“The Gubermint will buy them up, with our money.”

....yep....I expect the Obama administration has already put the word out to all government agencies to put Volts in their auto fleets.


17 posted on 03/17/2011 8:28:44 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Lazlo in PA

I had that dumb retro Chevy Woodie thing that looks sort of like that SUV Volt.

It was almost impossible to see out of. I had it for a rental and got pulled over. The cop let me go but at night the visibility was horrible.


18 posted on 03/17/2011 8:28:58 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: fightinJAG

I have to admit that if Ford had produced this thing, I might be rooting for it. I just can’t support a taxpayer-funded liberalmobile.


19 posted on 03/17/2011 8:29:10 PM PDT by TChad
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To: fightinJAG
Chevy Volt direct descendant of the Chevy Vega?
20 posted on 03/17/2011 8:30:23 PM PDT by Tupelo (The Boudicca from Wasilla supporter)
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To: Tupelo

Bastard child of the Corvair and the Vega. I suspect an Edsel in the woodpile.


21 posted on 03/17/2011 8:32:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: enduserindy

Their Genesis line is a Lexus for the price of Toyota. Starts at $22, 250 for the coupe and $33,000 for the sedan:

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/build-your-hyundai/


22 posted on 03/17/2011 8:33:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: fightinJAG

Premium fuel to boot.


23 posted on 03/17/2011 8:36:08 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: fightinJAG
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24 posted on 03/17/2011 8:48:20 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: fightinJAG

www.wrightfornevada.com/chevyvolt.png


25 posted on 03/17/2011 9:03:04 PM PDT by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's HERE!!!!!!! And we are on the move)
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To: fightinJAG; All

GM only sold about 1200 Volts between 12/10-3/11 ...


26 posted on 03/17/2011 9:05:31 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
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To: fightinJAG

This article is stunning! Share it with everyone you know.


27 posted on 03/17/2011 9:08:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: longun45

28 posted on 03/17/2011 9:09:44 PM PDT by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's HERE!!!!!!! And we are on the move)
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To: mnehring

Lexus hybrid betting 45 MPG


29 posted on 03/17/2011 9:11:53 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Worst president in my lifetime by far..... Hoping for -24 today.)
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To: longun45
This should fix it:
30 posted on 03/17/2011 9:12:55 PM PDT by longun45 (Still think a revolution cannot happen here? It's HERE!!!!!!! And we are on the move)
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To: MHGinTN
Methinks you are being a little hard on the Edsel and Corvair.
I had three Corvairs. 2 good, 1 pretty bad. hey .666 ain't bad
31 posted on 03/17/2011 9:15:00 PM PDT by Tupelo (The Boudicca from Wasilla supporter)
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To: fightinJAG

I long for the days in the fifties and sixties when the cars were big and beautiful. Life seemed designed for people then, now it’s for plants,trees,frogs everything but people.


32 posted on 03/17/2011 9:23:34 PM PDT by jonathonandjennifer
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To: fightinJAG

If I wanted a car at that price that required premium gas I’d buy a Lexus...and probably get better mileage.....


33 posted on 03/17/2011 9:24:29 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: fightinJAG

Would that be “Associated Motors” or “Amalgamated Motors”?


34 posted on 03/17/2011 9:36:59 PM PDT by tpmintx (Browncoats forever!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How far can you drive that Hyundai without putting gas in it ?


35 posted on 03/17/2011 10:12:39 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Kellis91789

It’s a hybrid, like the Prius and others, not an electric/gas thingee like the Volt.


36 posted on 03/17/2011 10:15:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: mylife

And the Vette (at least the base model) gets over 30mpg on the highway (I dunno how the Z-06 and the ZR-1 do). Admittedly, passenger space in the Vette is at something of a premium and the tire bill is nothing to sneeze at.


37 posted on 03/17/2011 11:22:14 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: fightinJAG

forgeddaboutit. Here is the car of the future. go see this video of a working hydrogen powered car.

http://www.flixxy.com/gm-hy-wire-concept-car.htm

And its built by GM, strangely enough.


38 posted on 03/17/2011 11:46:04 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: fightinJAG
From the article:
Recently, President Obama selected General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt to chair his Economic Advisory Board. GE is awash in windmills waiting to be subsidized so they can provide unreliable, expensive power.

Consequently, and soon after his appointment, Immelt announced that GE will buy 50,000 Volts in the next two years, or half the total produced. Assuming the corporation qualifies for the same tax credit, we (you and me) just shelled out $375,000,000 to a company to buy cars that no one else wants so that GM will not tank and produce even more cars that no one wants. And this guy is the chair of Obama's Economic Advisory Board?

Talk about back scratching!
39 posted on 03/18/2011 3:06:01 AM PDT by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly they do not offer an all wheel drive option for the Genisus or the Equus or I may have bought one.


40 posted on 03/18/2011 3:13:10 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: STONEWALLS

U.S. government to purchase first 100 Chevy Volts and thousands of hybrids

GE Announces Plans to Buy 25,000 EVs, with 12,000 of them to be Chevy Volts.

(US Government and GE, not much difference)

41 posted on 03/18/2011 3:19:43 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: STONEWALLS

Immelt from GE got some commerce job from Bamster.

Then turned around and said GE would buy a bunch of them.

So - there ya go.


42 posted on 03/18/2011 6:30:05 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: fightinJAG

We need the Volt to go across the Mackinaw Bridge in November to see if it joins the fishes and the Yugo in the Mackinaw straits. Volt/Yugo - both have 4 letters in their name. Not good. I’d bet the Volt goes 50 yards before it jumps the guard rail and becomes a boat. Does it float better on its roof?


43 posted on 03/18/2011 6:45:36 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Sonata is a very nice car.


44 posted on 03/18/2011 6:32:40 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So it’s not really an apples-to-apples comparison ? The Volt is a electric car that can be driven between 25 and 50 miles between recharging depending on conditions, and can be driven an unlimited distance if you want to put gas in it every few hundred miles. So it is really two cars in one, and nobody seems to want to acknowledge that.

It is not a $30K Leaf that can be driven 80 miles and then is disabled while waiting for an 8-hour recharge. It is not a $25K Prius or Sonata that can’t drive anywhere without putting gas in it first.

The Volt deserves more respect than it is getting. It still isn’t worth $40K, but it is a better value than the $30K Leaf.


45 posted on 03/19/2011 12:02:43 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Kellis91789

Except that the Volt is a Chevy Cruze, their current Chevette, albeit with an electric motor in addition to a gasoline engine. The Hyundai Sonata is not their starter model, rather it is right in the middle of their model line, their Taurus or Camry, as it were.


46 posted on 03/19/2011 12:23:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I’m not in the market for a car right now so I haven’t compared the Volt to the Cruze side by side in fit and finish quality. I suspect that there are significant differences, structurally and with the interior. The weight distribution, climate control, sound deadening, dash controls etc. are necessarily going to dictate big differences. A Cadillac Escalade and a Chevy Suburban probably share more common components than the Volt and Cruze, but have very different levels of comfort, fit, finish, quietness, etc. I don’t know that the Volt being “based on” the Cruze automatically means it will feel as lowbrow as a Chevette.

A vehicle LIKE the Volt, with a 25 - 50 mile all-electric around town range independent of fuel but unlimited range with fuel makes a lot of sense to me. 90% of my days I’d be able to avoid using any gasoline at all. Unfortunately, CA has ridiculous electric rates, so I wouldn’t see the kind of savings that I would if I lived in NV or somewhere with $0.10/kwh rates. At $40K, it would never save enough money for anyone to justify it on that basis. Barring significant differences in quality and comfort, I think the Volt at $25K would be my choice over the Sonata.


47 posted on 03/19/2011 2:48:27 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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