Skip to comments.Central Texas artifacts indicate earlier human arrival
Posted on 03/25/2011 10:56:16 AM PDT by wolfcreek
Archaeologists at a Central Texas site have unearthed artifacts indicating that the first humans arrived in North America roughly 2,500 years earlier than previously thought, raising questions about how they made it to the New World and what route they took.
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Primitive NA Ping!
Got to ping txhurl too.
Oh damn. 15,000 years worth of big shiny belt buckles.
“Now Texas can boast having the oldest [human] archaeological site in North America,”
But, but when the patron saint of evolution, LSB Leakey, came to the US in the 1970s, he said California artfacts, believed to be 10,000 years old were really 100,000 years old!
If he is wrong about American artfacts could he be wrong about African artfacts?
And 20,000 year old American artfacts published in National Geographic were later found to be 2000 years old!
What can we believe anymore? Oh my brain, it’s strained!
And if those pre-Clovis points were bifacial, where but Europeans could they have come from as Asians used bone implanted with flint chips!
Why do people think that folks had to arrive from somewhere else? Why can’t they be created in that area? There are Indian nations across country that have stories about their origins. For example, the Tongva believe that the Creator (God) created them in a place that is now a garden on the campus of the California State University at Long Beach.
Science is never settled. Theories are always changing to fit new information.
Anyone who says different is a liar and/or a scam artist (Al Gore)
So maybe “Native Americans” weren’t really the aboriginal inhabitants of this hemisphere. It’s possible.
Hmm-m-m-m. All those tax credits and casinos, all the affirmative action benefits....
Can I have my tax money back with interest?
I know more than a few who would love to see them try.
Because every liberal in the US (and probably the world) is flat-out convinced that Africa is the source of homo sapiens, or homo homo sapiens, or something or the other.
The oldest remains apparently have been unearthed there. I wonder, though, if Africa may not have been the first place man appeared, but the last. The ancient remains, then, would be available simply because they are the newest, relatively speaking.
“Why do people think that folks had to arrive from somewhere else? Why cant they be created in that area?”
My thoughts exactly.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the sentient modern human.
Homo Homo Sapiens must be a liberal.
Well, now, maybe the “Native Americans” pushed out some groups that were here first...folks who were here some 2,500 years before them.
“Leave the people your ancestors screwed alone.”
If it weren’t for my ancestors, Native Americans would still be cutting out beating hearts, abandoning their elders, and living hard, short lives.
Carbon (organic) dating doesn’t work beyond 10k years,
so they must have been dating them by dating the dirt they were in... but there’s another couple of problems there -
they can’t date sedimentary rock/soil, only volcanic, so they’d have to maybe go elsewhere to find “dateable” rocks (as was done with Lucy),
and what if they were buried in “old” dirt?
So many assumptions are made with this dating stuff,
and people just lap it up because “they’re scientists!”
Did you hear about that elk/deer/whatever that was carbon dated and found to have died a long agonizing death?
His front end died a couple thousand years before his back legs died... according to carbon dating.
To the victor goes the spoils. That's the way it was and that's the way it is.
So they find artifacts. Big deal. Time has passed AND THE LAND HAS NEW OWNERS.
no spanish writing?
***Maybe if the island natives would have killed Columbus, the Carib and other island people would not have been thrown into slavery and extinct now. Just maybe.****
You mean like the South American indians did to Verrazano when he approached them frendly, alone and unarmed?
They promptly killed and cooked and ate him while his men looked on from a very safe distance.
Didn’t keep the Spanish out of South America did it!
***You are generalizing now. My tribe up in N. Calif. never did any of that folly you speak of. Neither did 95% of the tribes of N. America.***
You mean the Anazazi wern’t cannibals even though tests on their poop left behind has certain chemicals in it found only in human flesh?
You might want to read this before saying that...
Don’t defend the Spanish. They were the biggest murderers in all humanity. Responsible for a few million deaths in their conquests of the Americas, not counting the white souls they slaughtered in the name of the Lord. They were worse than our modern day Islamists. Frankly the world would be better off now if the Indians had killed every one of them.
What happened to the *original* topic, Boys?
All the genetic data is clear that Native Americans came from an Asian population.
And the data is VERY clear that all human beings are related via common ancestry.
Via what scenario are human populations created separately and not related via common ancestry? One in which they should also be KEPT separate mayhap?
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**Dont defend the Spanish. They were the biggest murderers in all humanity.***
I have read that one priest reported that there was NO genocide in New Spain, but another priest said there WAS genocide in Mexico.
I asked a Spanish friend from east LA who has read the documents and he said THERE WAS genocide in Mexico.
So I will agree with you on this.
However, if the first Spanish had been killed off by the Indians, the Portugeese would have discovered the New World and the problems might still be the same.
Because the Bible mentions only one Garden of Eden? And I'm pretty sure it wasn't in Texas.
Their DNA puts the lie to their creation stories.
Something for two FReepers to agree on: the Portuguese are no better than the Spanish. LOL. Or as they call themselves here in Hawaii, Portagees
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
I have roamed through many hundreds of miles of the Central Texas creekbottoms, and let me tell you, I personally have seen sites there that are AT LEAST 15 meters deep, with stratified layers all the way to bedrock. One site I know of will rewrite history, just like this one. It’s not real far from this site, but back in the cave it is in, the ceiling is collapsed, and natives ran herds of bison off into the cave in a pile for butchering. (I believe there are only 2 other sites in all of the Western Hemisphere like that. VITALLY IMPORTANT TO BE PROPERLY DOCUMENTED! That site hasn’t been looted ever, AND other than me and a few old guys in nursing homes, no one has any idea about it.) I have also seen on many occasions very large primary flakes a meter below the Caliche layer at several sites around Central Texas, totally different material and craftsmanship than higher strats, and the artifacts above those strats were Late Paleo.
What people don’t get is that in Central Texas there are sites like this everywhere...AND landowners can shoot looters if their property is properly marked. There is one landowner in Coryell Co. that has signs on his fence every 30ft or so that say, ‘Trespassers will be shot, Survivors will be Prosecuted!’. That man has killed three looters so far, and got off chargers because his land is properly marked acording to state law... Used to live right down the road for years...
Yes, central Texas has been a hotbed for archeological sites. I was really exited when I saw this article. My wife and I believe this area could of had people here much longer than previously thought.
Who is this landowner you speak of? I was born in Coryell county.