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Ground Operation In Libya Could Start In April - Russian Intelligence
TREND ^ | March 26, 2011

Posted on 03/26/2011 8:36:18 AM PDT by Strategy

The international coalition force is planning a ground operation in Libya that could start in late April, a high-ranking Russian intelligence service source said on Friday, RIA Novosti reported.

"Information coming via different channels shows that NATO countries, with the active participation of Britain and the United States, are developing a plan for a ground operation on Libyan territory," he said.

"From all indications, a ground operation will be launched if the alliance fails to force the Gaddafi regime to capitulate with air strikes and missile attacks."

If the events in Libya follow this scenario, the ground operation could start "in late April-early May," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.trend.az ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fleeing2rio; islam; jimmyqaeda2; libya; nato; obama; r2p; ribs4moochelle; rio4warrior0bama; victory911mosque
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1 posted on 03/26/2011 8:36:23 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

On FOX News this morning Norman R. Augustine the retired chairman and chief executive officer of the Lockheed Martin Corporation, the nation’s largest defense contractor,told Neal Cavuto:

“Airpower alone will not be successful and boots on ground will be needed.”

Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya . . . Except for Those Guys.
By Jim Geraghty
Posted on March 23, 2011 3:46 PM

NPR: “President Obama said Wednesday it was ‘absolutely’ out of the question that U.S. ground forces would be used in Libya.”

How would the president describe the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit? There is no such thing as a purely air-based combat mission; planes have problems and pilots end up on the ground, and then U.S. forces have to end up on the ground, hopefully briefly, to rescue them and bring them home safely. Ask Scott O’Grady how much time you can spend on the ground while patrolling a no-fly zone.

Details on the recent rescue:

The Kearsarge then sent up two MV-22 Ospreys carrying Marine rescue teams. As they were en route, the Harriers dropped two laser-guided bombs near the crash site, apparently to keep Libyans on the ground from approaching the pilot.

With additional helicopters hovering overhead for security, one of the Ospreys landed and picked up the pilot. He was then taken aboard the Kearsarge.

The weapons systems officer was recovered by what U.S. officials described as Libyan opposition forces. He is safe, officials have said.

There are about 2,200 Marines off the shore of Libya right now. http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/262910

March 24, 2011

Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? | O’Reilly Factor

Special Guests | Col. David Hunt & Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer

RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. You’ve got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you don’t know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.

O’REILLY: Now, do you agree with that, Col. Shaffer?

LT. COL. TONY SHAFFER, FORMER ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: Yes, I have heard from my sources — I got a call from one of my key sources on Monday and that’s exactly what’s going on. Let’s be really clear here. You have got to have these individuals doing what Dave just said, especially when you are talking about trying to protect, and the stated goal here, Bill, is humanitarian support. So you don’t want to have weapons hitting the wrong targets. So, Dave is very good on the fact that we have special operations guys sitting there with laser designators. Bill, you saw…

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/are-us-troops-already-ground-libya#ixzz1HiPalxMr


2 posted on 03/26/2011 8:37:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

David Hunt says it would be foolish to believe we don’t have covert ops troops on the ground now and further points out that some 2200 marines on a ship in the Mediterranean aren’t there for a relaxing cruise.


3 posted on 03/26/2011 8:42:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: KeyLargo

Could this possibly mean that the bamster is lying?

Oh my Bush!


4 posted on 03/26/2011 8:42:57 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Strategy

The Pinkies must be on vacation.


5 posted on 03/26/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey thug! I've got your "collective bargaining" right here!)
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To: KeyLargo
“Airpower alone will not be successful and boots on ground will be needed.”

For what? The 'rebels' are working with AlQaeda. So if we help them they'll let us assist with taking down a New York sky scrapper?

I have NO desire to spill American blood to help a group working with the terrorist group that caused 9/11.

6 posted on 03/26/2011 8:43:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: GOPJ

They were the enemy of Gadaffi and he was struggling to keep them under control. He’s going to struggle even more now that we we’re flying sorties for Al Qaeda.


7 posted on 03/26/2011 8:46:36 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Strategy

Can someone please tell us again, why we are even bothering with this african mess? And why are we fraternizing with the enemy, aside of course, from the fact that Obama is one of them. We have no dog in this hunt and we have already spent far too many millions of dollars on Tomahawks.

The “enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing didn’t work with Irag against the Iranians, and it for damn sure isn’t going to work here. The rebels are AQ. If Quackie the Duck is overthrown, Libya will be trading one atrocious regime for another. Either way, the Libyan people lose.


8 posted on 03/26/2011 8:49:00 AM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: GOPJ

The ‘rebels’ ARE al-Q.


9 posted on 03/26/2011 8:50:51 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: GOPJ

“I have NO desire to spill American blood to help a group working with the terrorist group that caused 9/11. “

Conservatives agree.

However even Rinos are pushing for a full-scale war.

Former Pres. Eisenhower warned us. “Beware the military-industrial complex.”


10 posted on 03/26/2011 8:54:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
I was very shocked to hear Mark Levin on the same side as Obama.

Levin devoted his entire show to how Obama was right and why we had to support him.
11 posted on 03/26/2011 8:56:23 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: NWFLConservative

I’ve always said Saudi would be the first weapons stash for AQ once the monarchy got its just rewards, but I was wrong now I hear AQ has some of K’Daffy’s MANPADs.


12 posted on 03/26/2011 8:56:54 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: NWFLConservative

“Can someone please tell us again, why we are even bothering with this african mess?”

Obama is an African.


13 posted on 03/26/2011 8:57:14 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Strategy

I really don’t want my tax dollars fighting for Islamists to have a country stone women to death


14 posted on 03/26/2011 8:59:57 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: junta
There must be more oil than we thought . Can't wait to see how Europe carves up the supply .
15 posted on 03/26/2011 9:00:14 AM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: cripplecreek

It is time for some good men to tell their commanders to go to hell they are not forced to obey an unlawful order, in an illegal war.


16 posted on 03/26/2011 9:09:30 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Minus_The_Bear: “I was very shocked to hear Mark Levin on the same side as Obama.”

That is simply not true! Mark Levin only agreed that the president has a constitutional right to use American forces toward our national interests. In other words, Mark does not think the War Powers Act is constitutional. As for actions in Libya, Mr. Levin has said numerous times that he does not support an invasion or the no-fly zone. I believe his preferred course of action is to drop a bomb on Q-Daffy. Myself? I think we should stay out of it entirely. Let the dictator and the Muzzies have at it.


17 posted on 03/26/2011 9:12:11 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: KeyLargo

It’s time now for Congress to speak on this development that we’re now flying sorties for Al Qaeda in Libya.

Now that the news, it’s time that the Republican controlled Congress go on the media and tell the American people what’s being reported.

Because the MSM is keeping it quiet.


18 posted on 03/26/2011 9:12:33 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Strategy; SunkenCiv; Nachum

This war is very convenient to Congressional democrats who can hang over the heads of House GOPers the spectre over shutting down the govt while our “men and women” are at war.

I wonder if 0bama went to war for the budget


19 posted on 03/26/2011 9:12:51 AM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: NWFLConservative
The first thing that was mentioned about intervention in Libya came from the French. France gets oil from Libya. Hmmm. Obviously President sarKozy asked Obama to get involved. Obama said, okay. Obama and the so-called coalition of the willing then received approval from the Arab League and the UN. For some reason Obama did not ask for the "okay" from the US Congress. Most Americans would enjoy seeing Gaddafi finally get whats coming to him --- DEATH! But this is not the time or the place. America has not been attacked or even threatened by Gaddafi. Without a doubt, the Libya rebels have strong ties to some form of terrorism --- aka. Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, Hamas or Hezbollah. This could develope into a royal screwed up mess. Obama has no idea wtf he's doing.

>>>>>>We have no dog in this hunt

Agreed.

20 posted on 03/26/2011 9:14:19 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: bushpilot1

This war is very convenient to Congressional democrats who can hang over the heads of House GOPers the specter over shutting down the govt while our “men and women” are at war.

I wonder if 0bama went to war for the budget


21 posted on 03/26/2011 9:17:56 AM PDT by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: tsowellfan
"we’re now flying sorties for Al Qaeda in Libya."

Oh goodie the Old media and now freepers are using the French word 'sortie' to describe U.S. air combat missions:

sor‧tie 1 a short flight made by a plane over enemy land, in order to bomb a city, military defences etc:

22 posted on 03/26/2011 9:23:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: CitizenUSA
That is simply not true! Mark Levin only agreed that the president has a constitutional right to use American forces toward our national interests.

Exactly! I'm amazed that those who support Obama's War are now actually using liberal democrat tactics in their responses. I guess we'd better start using spell check.

23 posted on 03/26/2011 9:28:49 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Perdogg

If this turns out bad knowing what we know, if the Republican Congress does not come out and start asking questions like this weekend you can know the democrats will blame this on Republican Congress for lack of action and use politically in the next election.


24 posted on 03/26/2011 9:32:41 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Strategy
Good article. This is what Obama is going to have a speech from the White House about. They must have had this planned.
25 posted on 03/26/2011 9:44:35 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.")
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To: cripplecreek

2200 Marines on float suggests a heavily re-enforced MEU; not something to trifle with. Not sure which MEU is on float there (yet), but I would bet my bottom dollar that battalion is SOC as well.


26 posted on 03/26/2011 9:47:16 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: bushpilot1

Obama is a Muslim.


27 posted on 03/26/2011 9:49:02 AM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: Strategy
Let's cut to the chase:

Hey Obama, you put unit size boots on the ground in Libya, you can kiss a second term goodbye based on Libya alone. There, you and the big boys chew on that for awhile. . .

28 posted on 03/26/2011 9:50:05 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: 43north
Could this possibly mean that the bamster is lying?

Open or closed?

There is where your answer lies.

29 posted on 03/26/2011 9:51:14 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cripplecreek
...some 2200 marines on a ship in the Mediterranean aren’t there for a relaxing cruise.

Last week during his televised prime time speech to the people spelling out the directives and time line for this little kinetic military action.../s

30 posted on 03/26/2011 9:55:49 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: tsowellfan
He’s going to struggle even more now that we we’re flying sorties for Al Qaeda.

And people thought he was nuts for negotiating with the Taleban in Afghanistan. Maybe this is what the negotiations were all about.

31 posted on 03/26/2011 10:06:05 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP



32 posted on 03/26/2011 10:07:36 AM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . "- we*ll bring a gun!" . . . . Fill your hand! . . .)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

As I recall, Levin was arguing the point of the constitutionality of his move in reference to his powers as CIC, not the moral or intelligent authority to do so.


33 posted on 03/26/2011 10:10:12 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: Perdogg

Ummmmm, your suspicions are noted, but we were already at a state of war in two other instances. let them make the arguement that one is better than the other.


34 posted on 03/26/2011 10:13:58 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: bushpilot1
Careful now, lest you be labeled one of those rabid, tea-baggin’ ‘birthers’ by one of those “intellectual elites”!

We've all seen the commercial “show me the CARFAX”, well Obama-lama-ding-dong, show me the real birth certificate! His utter reluctance and stonewalling to produce a valid birth certificate can logically only be construed as the actions of a person with someone to hide. And I firmly believe, what he has to hide is he was indeed born in Kenya, to a Kenyan national, thereby disqualifying him from holding the office in which he sullies each and every day. Even Mooseshell let it slip once that he was born in Kenya.

I myself was not born in this country. I was born on the island of Saipan in the Marianas while my Dad was stationed there as a Navy physician. But I was born to American parents, in an American military hospital (okm quonset hut)on an American military base, on a US territory. That makes me as American as anyone born in Atlanta GA to native Georgians.

35 posted on 03/26/2011 10:15:18 AM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I was very shocked to hear Mark Levin on the same side as Obama. Levin devoted his entire show to how Obama was right and why we had to support him.

No.

Levin made several points...

He said that the War Powers Act (which isn't even a law, btw) is unconstitutional.

He said that a president can use military force with out a congressional declaration and that congress can defund such an action.

I also believe, if I remember correctly, that Levin said that we should try to take Gaddafi out with a missile strike. Perhaps someone here could confirm that.

36 posted on 03/26/2011 10:29:29 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Michael Barnes

The Kearsarge is on station and the Battan is on its way 3/23/11 to reportedly relieve the Kearsarge and may very well be on station on Monday. I remember the Saratoga was to be relieved from the Red Sea before operation Desert Storm was being planned. The Sara was the first carrier group to return after the war.

http://www.kearsarge.navy.mil/site%20pages/Welcome.aspx
http://www.bataan.navy.mil/default.aspx


37 posted on 03/26/2011 10:55:08 AM PDT by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: 43north
Could this possibly mean that the bamster is lying?

Ground troops follow air strikes as spring follows winter

38 posted on 03/26/2011 11:02:01 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: NWFLConservative
"We have no dog in this hunt and we have already spent far too many millions of dollars on Tomahawks."

I agree. Our involvement in this affair is idiotic. No no-fly zones. No Tomahawks, no nothing except for perhaps some drones so we can monitor what's going on. We can never have enough intelligence.

But, I would point out (just as a point of fact) that those Tomahawks don't last forever. I'm not sure what their useful life is (I'm not even sure if it's unclassified), but it's not forever. Put another way, if we don't eventually use them, we lose them and they have to be scrapped. It's not an excuse to use them here, but it might be handy information to have if we have to use them in the future (for a genuine mission in our own self-interest), and some leftist bitches about the costs.

39 posted on 03/26/2011 11:54:55 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Yes, it would funny to call into Mark’s show (who I like) and call him a statist just for the heck of it, hang up and listen to him rant. Actually you wouldn’t need to hang up as Mark would take care of that part himself.


40 posted on 03/26/2011 12:26:51 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Reagan Man


No win situation.BHO has screwed the pooch and stepped in poo.
41 posted on 03/26/2011 1:39:48 PM PDT by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Paine)
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To: shanover

Moochelle and Poochelle. But which is the biggest beeyotch?


42 posted on 03/26/2011 1:46:55 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: fantom

“There must be more oil than we thought . Can’t wait to see how Europe carves up the supply .”

BINGO!!! We have winner.


43 posted on 03/26/2011 2:45:45 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Poison Pill

“Ground troops follow air strikes as spring follows winter”

And all will be well in the garden. LOL!


44 posted on 03/26/2011 2:51:44 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Minus_The_Bear
how Obama was right and why we had to support him.

Baloney. Levin said no such thing.

45 posted on 03/26/2011 3:53:31 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: Strategy

I think that we already have troops in the area bordering them on the Africa side in Sudan/Chad. I wonder if Obama will mention that?


46 posted on 03/26/2011 4:11:36 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Strategy

It will still be Bush’s Fault!


47 posted on 03/26/2011 4:14:02 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers - Good to the last drop!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Do we want more GUNS or BUTTER? This is an economic war. Its a War for JOBS, TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS, and to Get re-elected as he wants to get people back to work with new jobs in the defense industry when all HELL breaks loose.

AXELROD AND OBUMMER have this scripted out to not only destroy the economy when WORLD WAR III erupts but he also knows that he can do anything he wants as he only answers to GEORGE SORO’S.


48 posted on 03/26/2011 4:24:38 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: KeyLargo

Obama, Clinton and Soro’s won’t stop until the muslim brotherhood is in charge. It will be a kinetic overseas contingency operation pay no attention to Marines/Army headed out. The boots on the ground are NATO’S and the Swiss Miss Lady on a unicorn; then Obama will get another peace prize and the MSM will cheer.


49 posted on 03/26/2011 5:07:58 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: 43north

Well will they be barefoot. Remember no Boots.


50 posted on 03/26/2011 5:28:36 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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