Skip to comments.Ground Operation In Libya Could Start In April - Russian Intelligence
Posted on 03/26/2011 8:36:18 AM PDT by Strategy
The international coalition force is planning a ground operation in Libya that could start in late April, a high-ranking Russian intelligence service source said on Friday, RIA Novosti reported.
"Information coming via different channels shows that NATO countries, with the active participation of Britain and the United States, are developing a plan for a ground operation on Libyan territory," he said.
"From all indications, a ground operation will be launched if the alliance fails to force the Gaddafi regime to capitulate with air strikes and missile attacks."
If the events in Libya follow this scenario, the ground operation could start "in late April-early May," he added.
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On FOX News this morning Norman R. Augustine the retired chairman and chief executive officer of the Lockheed Martin Corporation, the nation’s largest defense contractor,told Neal Cavuto:
“Airpower alone will not be successful and boots on ground will be needed.”
Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya . . . Except for Those Guys.
By Jim Geraghty
Posted on March 23, 2011 3:46 PM
NPR: President Obama said Wednesday it was absolutely out of the question that U.S. ground forces would be used in Libya.
How would the president describe the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit? There is no such thing as a purely air-based combat mission; planes have problems and pilots end up on the ground, and then U.S. forces have to end up on the ground, hopefully briefly, to rescue them and bring them home safely. Ask Scott OGrady how much time you can spend on the ground while patrolling a no-fly zone.
Details on the recent rescue:
The Kearsarge then sent up two MV-22 Ospreys carrying Marine rescue teams. As they were en route, the Harriers dropped two laser-guided bombs near the crash site, apparently to keep Libyans on the ground from approaching the pilot.
With additional helicopters hovering overhead for security, one of the Ospreys landed and picked up the pilot. He was then taken aboard the Kearsarge.
The weapons systems officer was recovered by what U.S. officials described as Libyan opposition forces. He is safe, officials have said.
There are about 2,200 Marines off the shore of Libya right now. http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/262910
March 24, 2011
Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? | OReilly Factor
Special Guests | Col. David Hunt & Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer
RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. Youve got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you dont know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.
OREILLY: Now, do you agree with that, Col. Shaffer?
LT. COL. TONY SHAFFER, FORMER ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: Yes, I have heard from my sources I got a call from one of my key sources on Monday and thats exactly whats going on. Lets be really clear here. You have got to have these individuals doing what Dave just said, especially when you are talking about trying to protect, and the stated goal here, Bill, is humanitarian support. So you dont want to have weapons hitting the wrong targets. So, Dave is very good on the fact that we have special operations guys sitting there with laser designators. Bill, you saw
David Hunt says it would be foolish to believe we don’t have covert ops troops on the ground now and further points out that some 2200 marines on a ship in the Mediterranean aren’t there for a relaxing cruise.
Could this possibly mean that the bamster is lying?
Oh my Bush!
The Pinkies must be on vacation.
For what? The 'rebels' are working with AlQaeda. So if we help them they'll let us assist with taking down a New York sky scrapper?
I have NO desire to spill American blood to help a group working with the terrorist group that caused 9/11.
They were the enemy of Gadaffi and he was struggling to keep them under control. He’s going to struggle even more now that we we’re flying sorties for Al Qaeda.
Can someone please tell us again, why we are even bothering with this african mess? And why are we fraternizing with the enemy, aside of course, from the fact that Obama is one of them. We have no dog in this hunt and we have already spent far too many millions of dollars on Tomahawks.
The “enemy of my enemy is my friend” thing didn’t work with Irag against the Iranians, and it for damn sure isn’t going to work here. The rebels are AQ. If Quackie the Duck is overthrown, Libya will be trading one atrocious regime for another. Either way, the Libyan people lose.
The ‘rebels’ ARE al-Q.
“I have NO desire to spill American blood to help a group working with the terrorist group that caused 9/11. “
However even Rinos are pushing for a full-scale war.
Former Pres. Eisenhower warned us. “Beware the military-industrial complex.”
I’ve always said Saudi would be the first weapons stash for AQ once the monarchy got its just rewards, but I was wrong now I hear AQ has some of K’Daffy’s MANPADs.
“Can someone please tell us again, why we are even bothering with this african mess?”
Obama is an African.
I really don’t want my tax dollars fighting for Islamists to have a country stone women to death
It is time for some good men to tell their commanders to go to hell they are not forced to obey an unlawful order, in an illegal war.
Minus_The_Bear: “I was very shocked to hear Mark Levin on the same side as Obama.”
That is simply not true! Mark Levin only agreed that the president has a constitutional right to use American forces toward our national interests. In other words, Mark does not think the War Powers Act is constitutional. As for actions in Libya, Mr. Levin has said numerous times that he does not support an invasion or the no-fly zone. I believe his preferred course of action is to drop a bomb on Q-Daffy. Myself? I think we should stay out of it entirely. Let the dictator and the Muzzies have at it.
It’s time now for Congress to speak on this development that we’re now flying sorties for Al Qaeda in Libya.
Now that the news, it’s time that the Republican controlled Congress go on the media and tell the American people what’s being reported.
Because the MSM is keeping it quiet.
This war is very convenient to Congressional democrats who can hang over the heads of House GOPers the spectre over shutting down the govt while our “men and women” are at war.
I wonder if 0bama went to war for the budget
>>>>>>We have no dog in this hunt
This war is very convenient to Congressional democrats who can hang over the heads of House GOPers the specter over shutting down the govt while our men and women are at war.
I wonder if 0bama went to war for the budget
Oh goodie the Old media and now freepers are using the French word 'sortie' to describe U.S. air combat missions:
sor‧tie 1 a short flight made by a plane over enemy land, in order to bomb a city, military defences etc:
Exactly! I'm amazed that those who support Obama's War are now actually using liberal democrat tactics in their responses. I guess we'd better start using spell check.
If this turns out bad knowing what we know, if the Republican Congress does not come out and start asking questions like this weekend you can know the democrats will blame this on Republican Congress for lack of action and use politically in the next election.
2200 Marines on float suggests a heavily re-enforced MEU; not something to trifle with. Not sure which MEU is on float there (yet), but I would bet my bottom dollar that battalion is SOC as well.
Obama is a Muslim.
Hey Obama, you put unit size boots on the ground in Libya, you can kiss a second term goodbye based on Libya alone. There, you and the big boys chew on that for awhile. . .
Open or closed?
There is where your answer lies.
Last week during his televised prime time speech to the people spelling out the directives and time line for this little kinetic military action.../s
And people thought he was nuts for negotiating with the Taleban in Afghanistan. Maybe this is what the negotiations were all about.
As I recall, Levin was arguing the point of the constitutionality of his move in reference to his powers as CIC, not the moral or intelligent authority to do so.
Ummmmm, your suspicions are noted, but we were already at a state of war in two other instances. let them make the arguement that one is better than the other.
We've all seen the commercial “show me the CARFAX”, well Obama-lama-ding-dong, show me the real birth certificate! His utter reluctance and stonewalling to produce a valid birth certificate can logically only be construed as the actions of a person with someone to hide. And I firmly believe, what he has to hide is he was indeed born in Kenya, to a Kenyan national, thereby disqualifying him from holding the office in which he sullies each and every day. Even Mooseshell let it slip once that he was born in Kenya.
I myself was not born in this country. I was born on the island of Saipan in the Marianas while my Dad was stationed there as a Navy physician. But I was born to American parents, in an American military hospital (okm quonset hut)on an American military base, on a US territory. That makes me as American as anyone born in Atlanta GA to native Georgians.
Levin made several points...
He said that the War Powers Act (which isn't even a law, btw) is unconstitutional.
He said that a president can use military force with out a congressional declaration and that congress can defund such an action.
I also believe, if I remember correctly, that Levin said that we should try to take Gaddafi out with a missile strike. Perhaps someone here could confirm that.
The Kearsarge is on station and the Battan is on its way 3/23/11 to reportedly relieve the Kearsarge and may very well be on station on Monday. I remember the Saratoga was to be relieved from the Red Sea before operation Desert Storm was being planned. The Sara was the first carrier group to return after the war.
Ground troops follow air strikes as spring follows winter
I agree. Our involvement in this affair is idiotic. No no-fly zones. No Tomahawks, no nothing except for perhaps some drones so we can monitor what's going on. We can never have enough intelligence.
But, I would point out (just as a point of fact) that those Tomahawks don't last forever. I'm not sure what their useful life is (I'm not even sure if it's unclassified), but it's not forever. Put another way, if we don't eventually use them, we lose them and they have to be scrapped. It's not an excuse to use them here, but it might be handy information to have if we have to use them in the future (for a genuine mission in our own self-interest), and some leftist bitches about the costs.
Yes, it would funny to call into Mark’s show (who I like) and call him a statist just for the heck of it, hang up and listen to him rant. Actually you wouldn’t need to hang up as Mark would take care of that part himself.
Moochelle and Poochelle. But which is the biggest beeyotch?
“There must be more oil than we thought . Can’t wait to see how Europe carves up the supply .”
BINGO!!! We have winner.
“Ground troops follow air strikes as spring follows winter”
And all will be well in the garden. LOL!
Baloney. Levin said no such thing.
I think that we already have troops in the area bordering them on the Africa side in Sudan/Chad. I wonder if Obama will mention that?
It will still be Bush’s Fault!
Do we want more GUNS or BUTTER? This is an economic war. Its a War for JOBS, TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS, and to Get re-elected as he wants to get people back to work with new jobs in the defense industry when all HELL breaks loose.
AXELROD AND OBUMMER have this scripted out to not only destroy the economy when WORLD WAR III erupts but he also knows that he can do anything he wants as he only answers to GEORGE SORO’S.
Obama, Clinton and Soro’s won’t stop until the muslim brotherhood is in charge. It will be a kinetic overseas contingency operation pay no attention to Marines/Army headed out. The boots on the ground are NATO’S and the Swiss Miss Lady on a unicorn; then Obama will get another peace prize and the MSM will cheer.
Well will they be barefoot. Remember no Boots.