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Obama signed secret order authorizing covert U.S. support for rebel forces in Libya: officials
Reuters ^ | 3/30/2011

Posted on 03/30/2011 1:08:20 PM PDT by cll

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To: blackdog
Ya mean he is a liar?

Either that or he's reaganesque! Tough call ;)

51 posted on 03/30/2011 1:42:30 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: cll
US Constitution

Article III, Section 3.

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

52 posted on 03/30/2011 1:44:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Brown Deer

We are now supporting the Al Quaeda!!!


53 posted on 03/30/2011 1:44:43 PM PDT by Davidlion
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To: skr

“Why are “secret” orders being revealed?”

Maybe because people with skin on the line know that we’re assisting Al-Qaeda, unwittingly or not.


54 posted on 03/30/2011 1:45:16 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Davidlion
We are now supporting the Al Quaeda!!!

See post 52.

55 posted on 03/30/2011 1:46:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DallasDeb

I didn’t hear that, but there are 2200 Marines on the Kearsarge offshore. Another 2200 on the way.(Should be at Gibralta by now). And 2-3000 Paratroopers in Vincenza Italy. Those A-10s and AC-130s aren’t being sent to fire blindly in support of a bunch of untrained guys in ‘technicals’.


56 posted on 03/30/2011 1:48:04 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: xkaydet65

Check out the link on post 15.


57 posted on 03/30/2011 1:49:38 PM PDT by DallasDeb
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To: advertising guy

Well, that’s true...On the bright side, if we ship the Al Quaeda “rebels” the million Garands from Korea, Obama won’t be able to supply them to Acorn and SEIU for the 2012 election.

They’ll have to use sticks and rebar. ‘Course we’ll only have ten round mags or less...


58 posted on 03/30/2011 1:52:11 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DallasDeb

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/104408/


59 posted on 03/30/2011 1:52:44 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Red Badger

Thanks — I just spewed coffee all over my monitor.

LOL!


60 posted on 03/30/2011 1:52:52 PM PDT by AnglePark
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To: cll

Quadafi, without consulting his “subjects” states to the world he will kill Libyans that resist him.

Obama, secretly, and underhandedly, does the same thing.

And the difference in these two is.........?


61 posted on 03/30/2011 1:52:56 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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Sorry, wrong link:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/03/29/1089191/marines-say-goodbye.html


62 posted on 03/30/2011 1:54:04 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: cll

jihadi sympathizer in the WH. Go figure that someone with a funny name would get elected president and f up our country.


63 posted on 03/30/2011 1:54:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (People who don't pray: start.. People who pray: pray more.)
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To: cll
Pittsburgh man (Google software developer) joins freedom fight in Libya
64 posted on 03/30/2011 1:59:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: DallasDeb

Here’s another link: (Posted: 1:23 PM Mar 29, 2011)

http://www.witn.com/news/headlines/Marines_Headed_Off_Libyan_Coast_118851704.html?ref=704

“Thousands of Marines from Camp Lejeune, Cherry Point and New River are preparing to head to waters off Libya.

Nearly 2,200 Marines and sailors with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit are preparing the ships they will be deploying with during their mission to the Mediterranean Sea. The USS Bataan is currently docked at the Morehead City State Port.

The 22nd MEU will relieve the 26th MEU which has been involved with Libyan air strikes and with the rescue mission of a downed Air Force pilot last week.

Colonel Eric Steidl, commander of the 22nd MEU, would not say if they will have any missions in Libya but the colonel says the 22nd MEU has the ability to perform a wide variety of missions.

The 22nd MEU is deploying three months earlier than originally scheduled because the 26th MEU left North Carolina waters early to help with flood relief efforts in Pakistan. “


65 posted on 03/30/2011 2:00:09 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: cll

If we have been providing close air support the past few days, I would think there would be some coordination with the rebels on the ground. I would assume there was coordination between the rebels on the ground and air support so we are not strafing rebels.This would not be unreasonable.I am not sure but perhaps this is the covert support they are referring to.


66 posted on 03/30/2011 2:01:14 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: cll; All

Shades of the buildup to Vietnam.


67 posted on 03/30/2011 2:01:30 PM PDT by quesney
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To: cll

We do not have troops in the Parrots Beak of Cambodia.

RMN


68 posted on 03/30/2011 2:07:28 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
Quadafi, without consulting his “subjects” states to the world he will kill Libyans that resist him. Obama, secretly, and underhandedly, does the same thing. And the difference in these two is.........?

The difference is that Quadafi is maintaining order in his own country, while Obama has no business being there.

69 posted on 03/30/2011 2:12:02 PM PDT by Kennard (io)
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To: blackdog

Okay what will it take for someone to do their damned jobs and start impeachment proceedings?

This better be it.

A sitting US President authorized support for terrorists.
And Maddow will be on tonight saying how great Obama is.


70 posted on 03/30/2011 2:12:21 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: saganite; quesney

Right now, somewhere along the Libyan coast, there’s a future John Kerry listening to Christmas carols...


71 posted on 03/30/2011 2:12:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What evidence do you have that the Rebels armed are terrorists?


72 posted on 03/30/2011 2:16:49 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert
But now the Brotherhood is siding with the rebellion.

In February, as protests in Libya began, Yusuf al Qaradawi -- an Egyptian preacher in Qatar widely viewed as the Muslim Brotherhood's chief spiritual guide -- issued a fatwa or religious ruling obliging any Libyan soldier who had the opportunity to do so to assassinate the leader.

Al-Amin Bilhaj, a leading figure in the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood and the President of the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB) recently traveled to Benghazi, the headquarters of the rebel movement, according to Hresha.

Link

73 posted on 03/30/2011 2:23:04 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: Bud Krieger

Ballet Slippers?


74 posted on 03/30/2011 2:24:45 PM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: bert

What evidence do you have that the Rebels armed are terrorists?

__________________________________________

Is that a trick question?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=al%20quaida%20lybia&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn


75 posted on 03/30/2011 2:25:43 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: bert

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/24/us-libya-alqaeda-idUSTRE71N12B20110224

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-30/al-qaedas-libya-pilgrimage/#


76 posted on 03/30/2011 2:26:08 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: cll

I can’t believe how warlike Mr. oBOMBa is!


77 posted on 03/30/2011 2:27:46 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Responsibility2nd

In none of the pieces you referenced did it say that those being armed were Al Qaeda.

Who is being armed? Don’t give me may or possibly or such.


78 posted on 03/30/2011 2:28:40 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: quesney

The main reason such findings have to be secret is...

drumroll....

to keep the American public from finding out that their President lied to them.

then and now....


79 posted on 03/30/2011 2:32:42 PM PDT by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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To: bert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2696895/posts


80 posted on 03/30/2011 2:33:41 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Rennes Templar
Time to bring out the “Q” word, so “liberally” used under W: Quagmire!

No. It's time for the "I" word.

81 posted on 03/30/2011 2:35:21 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: bert

Well, here’s some concerning information:

On March 29, six jihadi websites and media companies (Shumoukh Al-Islam, Ansar Al-Mujahideen, Al-Tahaddi, Minbar Al-Ansar, the Al-Yaqin Media Center and the Al-M’asada Media Company) issued a joint call to the Libyan people, which was posted on the site Shumoukh Al-Islam.

Posted at: March 29, 2011

http://www.memrijttm.org/content/en/blog_personal.htm?id=4690&param=GJN


82 posted on 03/30/2011 2:35:27 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: cll

Wait till Daffy’s forces capture one of the agents.


83 posted on 03/30/2011 2:35:41 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: bert

OK, so you don’t believe Libyan rebels are organized by Al Quaida. Got it.

So. Do you then SUPPORT the rebels and Obama’s plan to overthrow Qadaffi?


84 posted on 03/30/2011 2:37:56 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: bert

Has the media spin made all people forgetful?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9sMo-LTdSc&feature=player_embedded


85 posted on 03/30/2011 2:39:49 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: DallasDeb

Of course we have combat troops on the ground, and problay have been for several month, but of course they were barefooted( therefore.. no boots on the ground)


86 posted on 03/30/2011 2:42:37 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: maggief

Fox just announced this from alReuters. But then several days ago one of Fox military analysts stated that of course there were already our people there, somebody had to point the laser for the missiles.


87 posted on 03/30/2011 2:44:56 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We need to be in it to win it, and if there's doubt we need to get out". -- Palin on Libya.)
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To: cll
Another headline soon-to-appear....

"Obama signed secret order authorizing covert U.S. support for rebel forces in Libya: Israel.

88 posted on 03/30/2011 2:51:00 PM PDT by BigFinn (The King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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To: DallasDeb
"I heard that a group of marines were on the ground in Libya a few days ago. "

Me too.

89 posted on 03/30/2011 2:54:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: bert

Al Qaeda is so 90’s. Obama incited a new name in his Cairo speech by name, the Muslim Brotherhood. They will rock you to bed every night and care for you like mama and want a mosque built on ground zero. I’ll let you go watch dancing with the stars.


90 posted on 03/30/2011 2:57:47 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: BigFinn

Yup: Like this:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5142.htm

The plan is for millions of Palestinian refugees to march en masse in return to the original homes of their families in Israel. The campaign is being referred to as “The 2011 March of Return,” “The Palestinian Refugees’ Revolution,” “The Advance of the Millions,” and even “The Third Palestinian Intifada.” Some of the Facebook pages stress that the activities are meant to be peaceful and unarmed, while others hint at violence and armed resistance.


91 posted on 03/30/2011 2:57:55 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Responsibility2nd
“I made it clear to the President that if he takes this nation to war without Congressional approval, I will make it my business to impeach him. That is a fact.”

Pssst. Joe. If Obama is impeached, guess who gets to play president for a while?

92 posted on 03/30/2011 2:58:02 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: cll

Libya crisis: Gaddafi forces adopt rebel tactics

Ras Lanuf has now changed hands for the fourth time in three weeks. BBC world affairs editor John Simpson in Tripoli has been assessing the fighting.

Colonel Gaddafi’s forces have changed their tactics.

The Libyan army has not always been known for its efficiency or its high morale.

Now though, it has shown a remarkable degree of flexibility, and has chosen to adopt tactics used by the rebels only a few days ago, when they were sweeping along the coastal road, apparently unstoppably, in the direction of Sirte.

The sudden turnaround of fortune is the result of several factors.

The first is that Colonel Gaddafi’s army has decided to follow methods which the rebels have used so successfully.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12911904

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C.I.A. in Libya Aiding Rebels, U.S. Officials Say

The Central Intelligence Agency has inserted clandestine operatives into Libya to gather intelligence for military airstrikes and make contacts with rebels battling Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces, according to American officials.

While President Obama has insisted that no American ground troops join in the Libyan campaign, small groups of C.I.A. operatives have been working in Libya for several weeks and are part of a shadow force of Westerners that the Obama administration hopes can help set back Colonel Qaddafi’s military, the officials said.

The C.I.A. presence comprises an unknown number of American officers who had worked at the spy agency’s station in Tripoli and those who arrived more recently. In addition, current and former British officials said, dozens of British special forces and MI6 intelligence officers are working inside Libya. The British operatives have been directing airstrikes from British Tornado jets and gathering intelligence about the whereabouts of Libyan government tank columns, artillery pieces, and missile installations, the officials said.

By meeting with rebel groups, the Americans hope to fill in gaps in understanding who the leaders are of the groups opposed Colonel Qaddafi, and what their allegiances are, according to United States government officials speaking only on condition of anonymity because the actions of C.I.A. operatives are classified. The C.I.A. has declined to comment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/africa/31intel.html


93 posted on 03/30/2011 2:58:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cll

Libya rebels downplay Al-Qaeda charges
(AFP) – 4 hours ago

BENGHAZI, Libya — A spokesman for Libyan rebels fighting Moamer Kadhafi’s regime on Wednesday played down allegations by a top NATO commander that there may be Al-Qaeda fighters in their ranks.

“We don’t have this organisation in Libya because their culture is different from ours,” Colonel Ahmed Bani told reporters in the rebel stronghold Benghazi.

“If there are any Libyans who were associated with Al-Qaeda around the world and are now in Libya, they are fighting on behalf of Libya. If,” he emphasised.

He told the same press conference that Wednesday’s chaotic stampede of rebel forces back from a number of villages they had seized in recent days came after they were confronted by a force of thousands of Chadian Republican Guards.

“We found that the best response was a tactical retreat until we can develop a better strategy for confronting this force,” he said, saying it numbered between 3,200 and 3,600 heavily armed troops.

He claimed to have “three sources” for the presence of the foreign troops but did not give further details about where the information came from.

“The dictator and his military and mercenaries will not make it to Benghazi,” he said, referring to forces loyal to Kadhafi, whose 42-year rule is being challenged by the weeks-old insurgency.

On Tuesday, top NATO commander and US Admiral James Stavridis said the alliance was trying to gain a clearer picture of the rebels who had advanced with the help of Western-led coalition air strikes.

“We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah. We’ve seen different things,” he said, referring to Osama Bin Laden’s global jihadist network and Lebanon’s Shiite Muslim militia.

“At this point, I don’t have detail sufficient to say that there’s a significant Al-Qaeda presence or any other terrorist presence in and among” (rebel forces), Stavridis said.

Al-Qaeda militant Abu Yahya al-Libi, himself a Libyan whose whereabouts are unknown, has urged on the rebellion against Kadhafi, and Al-Qaeda in North Africa has vowed to do everything in its power to help.

http://tinyurl.com/4whpejd


94 posted on 03/30/2011 3:01:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
"There's no Al Qaeda in Libya. Lies!"


95 posted on 03/30/2011 3:05:46 PM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: cll

Commander of Rebel Forces in Libya
Fought Against US in Afghanistan
Pajamas Media

Shortly after unrest broke out in eastern Libya in mid-February, reports emerged that an “Islamic Emirate” had been declared in the eastern Libyan town of Darnah and that, furthermore, the alleged head of that Emirate, Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi, was a former detainee at the American prison camp in Guantánamo. The reports, which originated from Libyan government sources, were largely ignored or dismissed in the Western media.

Now, however, al-Hasadi has admitted in an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore that he fought against American forces in Afghanistan. Al-Hasadi says that he is the person responsible for the defense of Darnah — not the town’s “Emir.” In a previous interview with Canada’s Globe and Mail, he claimed to have a force of about 1,000 men and to have commanded rebel units in battles around the town of Bin Jawad.

“I have never been at Guantanamo,” al-Hasadi explained to Il Sole 24 Ore. “I was captured in 2002 in Peshawar in Pakistan, while I was returning from Afghanistan where I fought against the foreign invasion. I was turned over to the Americans, detained for a few months in Islamabad, then turned over to Libya and released from prison in 2008.”

Al-Hasadi’s account is largely confirmed by investigations conducted by Praveen Swami, the diplomatic editor of the British daily The Telegraph. Swami originally wrote about al-Hasadi’s background in the Afghan jihad in a March 21 column. In response to a query from the present author, Swami was able to obtain confirmation of al-Hasadi’s arrest and transfer to Libya from what he describes as a “senior source” in the Afghan government.

According to a separate UK intelligence source contacted by Swami, al-Hasadi was released by the Libyan government as part of a deal that was struck with the al-Qaeda-affiliated Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIGF). The LIGF has long opposed the rule of Muammar al-Gaddafi in Libya...

Al-Hasadi admits not only to fighting against US troops in Afghanistan, but also to recruiting Libyans to fight against American forces in Iraq. As noted in my earlier PJM report here, captured al-Qaeda personnel records show that al-Hasadi’s hometown of Darnah sent more foreign fighters to fight with al-Qaeda in Iraq than any other foreign city or town and “far and away the largest per capita number of fighters.” Al-Hasadi told Il Sole 24 Ore that he personally recruited “around 25” Libyans to fight in Iraq...

The revelations about al-Hasadi’s involvement in the anti-American jihad are particularly troubling in light of clear evidence that Western forces are coordinating their attacks on Libyan government targets with rebel forces.

http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/930


96 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Tonite is Idol...... A great example of how the American dream can be pursued by those willing to make an effort

After about 8:00 you can join the FRee Republic live thread on chat.

You have missed the risk takers but can still watch the intense competition and discrimination as America chooses an Idol by something like 30+ million votes per night


97 posted on 03/30/2011 3:06:51 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: cll

Libyan opposition includes a small number of al-Qaeda fighters, U.S. officials say

Rebel forces in Libya that have sought to take advantage of U.S.-backed airstrikes appear to include a small number of fighters with ties to al-Qaeda, American officials said Tuesday.

The disclosure raises a potential complication for the Obama administration and other Western governments that are weighing whether to provide arms and other support to Libyan opposition groups, whose composition in some cases remains unclear.

U.S. officials played down their concern about al-Qaeda’s presence, saying that its numbers appear negligible and that the terrorist network has had no dis­cern­ible influence on the groups seeking to oust Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi.

“We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential al-Qaeda” and Hezbollah fighters among opposition forces, U.S. Adm. James Stavridis, NATO’s supreme allied commander for Europe, said in congressional testimony.

But Stavridis stressed that emerging intelligence on the Libyan opposition “makes me feel that the leadership that I’m seeing are responsible men and women who are struggling against Colonel Gaddafi.”

Stavridis’s comments marked the first time a senior U.S. official had publicly acknowledged an al-Qaeda presence among rebel forces, although experts have pointed to long-standing ties between the terrorist network and Libyan opposition groups.

“It’s almost a certitude that at least part” of the Libyan opposition includes members of al-Qaeda, said Bruce Riedel, a former senior CIA analyst and adviser to President Obama. Riedel said that anti-Gaddafi elements in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi have had “very close associations with al-Qaeda” dating back years.

“I would hope that we now have a good sense of the opposition in Libya and can say that this is 2 percent, not 20 percent,” Riedel said. “If we don’t, then we are running the risk of helping to bring to power a regime that could be very dangerous.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/libyan-opposition-includes-a-small-number-of-al-qaeda-fighters-us-officials-say/2011/03/29/AFRlXWyB_story.html


98 posted on 03/30/2011 3:07:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Time to bring out the “Q” word, so “liberally” used under W: Quagmire!

Gee, doesn't "Q" stand for Quisling anymore?


99 posted on 03/30/2011 3:10:07 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: cll

So, obviously, the ANSWER coalition is organizing a giant, violent protest on the Mall in DC, Ed Asner, Jane Fonda and company are taking out full page ads in the Slimes under “Not In My Name”, Code Pink is chaining themselves to the gates of the White House and throwing blood on members of Congress and the entire Democrat Congressional Caucus is giving non-Stop speeches and interviews about what an outrageous rogue president currently occupies the White House. Right? Right? Huh? I can’t hear you!

One good thing about Obama is, if there are any Americans left who are still capable of rational thought and haven’t decided yet about the nature of the Democrat party, liberalism, progressives, the left, this Libya thing leaves them no doubt that the entire left is so transparently phony, hypocritical and craven, it would make Stalin and Goebbels blush.


100 posted on 03/30/2011 3:10:14 PM PDT by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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