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Dry Run or Wrong Turn? 3 Mid-East Men Try to Enter Calif. Marine Base
the Blaze ^ | 3-31-11 | Jonathon M. Seidl

Posted on 03/31/2011 7:21:18 AM PDT by Mozilla

Was it just a wrong turn, or something more sinister?

Marine base Camp Pendleton — one of the largest military bases in the country — is reportedly on high alert after three Middle Eastern men tried to enter the base last weekend on multiple occasions in multiple vehicles. And while the men initially claimed they didn’t know each other and simply took a wrong turn, new information from a local gas station about “hateful comments” and “terrorist threats” casts doubt on their story:

http://clipsyndicate.com/video/playlist/8178/2340295?wpid=9528

KGTV explains some of the shocking details:

According to a Be On the Lookout (BOLO) alert issued to high-ranking Camp Pendleton officials, someone reported hearing hateful comments and terrorist threats from three men at a gas station in Oceanside Saturday.

Investigators at Camp Pendleton said the men asked the attendant for directions on how to get to Camp Pendleton before they left the gas station.

According to the alert, shortly after midnight Sunday, a rented silver Toyota Corolla driven by Naeem attempted to enter Camp Pendleton through the main gate. As it was being searched, Petrossian and Avanosian drove up in a black Mercedes, but were told to wait. Instead, they continued past the gate and onto the base. Following a short pursuit, the Mercedes was stopped and searched.

No weapons or contraband were found in the Mercedes, but base security noticed the air bag in the steering wheel of the Mercedes had been pulled out and re-attached with duct tape and had wires hanging free, the alert said.


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To: ohioWfan

He is one of them. Why would he care? He is doing more damage to this beloved country of mine than the terrorists themselves. Dirtbag.


101 posted on 03/31/2011 9:09:39 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Arrowhead1952
In order to get on the US Army War College in Carlisle, PA, you have to go through two guard gates. They pull over about one in twenty five just for further inspection.
It drives our tech reps nuts when they get held up to go fix a copier or fax.
102 posted on 03/31/2011 9:13:07 AM PDT by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: Hacklehead

Perhaps then it would be a quasi kinetic military mishap?


103 posted on 03/31/2011 9:13:19 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: Mozilla

Lots of mooselimbs in OC. UCI has a huge jihadist population.

Or they may have come up via the border.


104 posted on 03/31/2011 9:15:54 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Mozilla

A wrong turn three different times in three different vehicles. Sure thing.


105 posted on 03/31/2011 9:32:07 AM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: Never on my watch

The MPs are definitely “men with a mission.”


106 posted on 03/31/2011 9:33:22 AM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: AGreatPer

Same here. The gate guards check everyone’s ID, but only check a number of vehicles. We know most of the guards and they wave us through.

All commercial vehicles have their loads inspected to some extent. They check the cargo area and see if it matches the invoices or shipping documents.


107 posted on 03/31/2011 9:38:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: ErnBatavia

Might have been mortars. I heard that it was supposed to be sometime around early 1970 but that is anyone’s guess, even whether it is true or not. You’re right about 29 Stumps; most of the practice was there. I spent time at Barstow (supply center) and had some buddies stationed at 29 Palms.


108 posted on 03/31/2011 9:40:00 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: thesearethetimes...
Why in the world is it “easy” to get on a military base!? When I was a kid, no sticker, and/or no military ID = no entry. Shakes head...

I guess you missed all the incidents in the past 10 years where illegal aliens have been found to be wandering around on U.S. military bases..including restricted nuclear submarine areas..

Oh, and I guess you missed the incident when it was discovered Bush's Homeland Security Chief had people who had entered the country illegally wandering around the inside of his private residence. During war time.

109 posted on 03/31/2011 9:42:39 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: concerned about politics

Based on my experience throughout my military career I would guess that they probably went looking for any “left hands” that might have been out there.


110 posted on 03/31/2011 9:43:06 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Sprite518

No sure why they were let go. Probably didn’t find enough to arrest. Which is highly dumb. I wish they would have arrested them.


111 posted on 03/31/2011 9:52:25 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

ping


112 posted on 03/31/2011 9:56:07 AM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Doc Savage

Amen.


113 posted on 03/31/2011 10:01:43 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (***You'll anger a conservative when you tell a lie & will anger liberals when you tell the truth.)
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To: Doc Savage
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114 posted on 03/31/2011 10:03:54 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (***You'll anger a conservative when you tell a lie & will anger liberals when you tell the truth.)
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To: ohioWfan; null and void
He would be doing nothing differently. Period.

Tinfoil jokes aside, I believe we are being set up. Yes, bambi is doing nothing different at all. We believe and count on, the constitution, our basic right of freedom.

An elderly Jew was once asked "why did you get on the train?" He answered "It was just one more thing to do".

We are being led to believe the usurper is impotent. While his ilk understands that the best way to control "the people" is through fear.

If the government did not want us to know the happenings at the gate of Camp Pendleton, we would not know it. But, we are simply fed the information that best serves the powers that be.

So, conservative forums and blogs can opine all they want about this or that - they may believe the government isn't watching, isn't taking notes.

I think they are.

115 posted on 03/31/2011 10:16:10 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Mozilla
Our involvement with Libya wont go unnoticed
116 posted on 03/31/2011 10:32:43 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Mozilla
Our involvement with Libya wont go unnoticed by the filthy hajis
117 posted on 03/31/2011 10:35:32 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Please don't throw it out of the window! I'll take it from you :)

Here is a link with instructions on how to disable autocorrect: Turn off autocorrect

118 posted on 03/31/2011 10:42:45 AM PDT by StrictTime (I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused.)
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To: Mozilla

>the air bag in the steering wheel of the Mercedes had been pulled out and re-attached with duct tape and had wires hanging free, the alert said.

Gee, I wonder what these scumuzzy koran heads were going to attach to those wires? Sounds like a suicide drive thru/into plan.


119 posted on 03/31/2011 11:10:30 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Mozilla

Yeah... Let me guess, they thought it was the gate for Disneyland... If they didn’t lock ‘em up someone had better be tracking them.


120 posted on 03/31/2011 11:28:27 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: Mozilla

WHY are these guys still alive?!

They blatantly violate the order of an armed gate sentry and live?

Talk about a “WTF” moment!


121 posted on 03/31/2011 11:46:50 AM PDT by HKMk23 (IF THE BUDGET / YOU WANT PASSED / TELL HARRY TO / KISS BOEHNER'S AXE / BURMA SHAVE)
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To: Mozilla
"Isolated! And Unexpected! [/sarcasm]
122 posted on 03/31/2011 11:51:42 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Mozilla

There are no coincidences where Muslims are concerned. Dry run for a terrorist attack.


123 posted on 03/31/2011 12:05:41 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: Mozilla
Yeah, simple recon to determine how much damage might be possible with a simple car bomb attack.

How close can they get to a major structure or how big a crowd can they draw before.... Booom!

124 posted on 03/31/2011 12:25:04 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Ezekiel
Airbags contain sodium azide

And I think this information is critical to figuring out what they were planning to do.

125 posted on 03/31/2011 1:11:57 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: Yaelle
Armenians are Christians.
Armenians are predominately Christians. To imply that no Armenians are Islamists is neither factual nor accurate. There are plenty of Sunnis there.
I can give links if you like.
126 posted on 03/31/2011 1:20:19 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: skeeter

RE: “Petrossian and avanosian sound like Armenian names. Armenians are Christians.”

and...........

“With the massive numbers of immigrants in the country today I don’t suppose it would be too difficult to fake IDs, and Armenia being a tiny Christian country surrounded by muslim ones, an Armenian ID would make the most sense for someone who appeared to be middle eastern.”

************

It doesn’t matter what their names supposedly are, their behaviors were extremely suspicious. I don’t like their looks. Period. One can buy ID in parts of L.A. for 20 bucks — not a big deal. Lost on the way to Glendale? LOL —

And yes, Glendale and even Burbank/Hollywood/North Hollywood are more and more overrun with ‘Armenians.’ They are like Muslims in that some are great people and others are total criminals.

The teens have their own gangs get into fights at the high schools and there are groups of somewhat older Armenian males congregating elsewhere, frightening other residents. They fight among themselves, too — like old Mafia families.

They really know how to ‘work’ our entitlement systems and along with Russians, are some of the most notorious at collecting welfare/food stamps/undeserved social security, etc. I see them in local markets every week with their gold jewelry and fancy cars, using food coupons for basics and paying cash for everything else they want that’s not eligible for food coupons.

This sounds like a BAD situation to me and I sure hope these bozos are under constant watch not; they should have been held for extremely tough questioning, actually.


127 posted on 03/31/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: crosshairs
A wrong turn three different times in three different vehicles. Sure thing.

And after they asked for directions to the Camp.

128 posted on 03/31/2011 1:26:11 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: CaliforniaCon

That first guy really looks Armenian (I have been there)
but I am incredulous that an Armenian would go jihad.


129 posted on 03/31/2011 1:29:03 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: philman_36

Ok, I stand corrected. I know a lot of local Armenians from Glendale and all of them are Christian. Perhaps that’s just the local population.

But also, as some of us suggested, these could be men with fake IDs that list them as Armenian to avoid detection as Islamist terrorists.


130 posted on 03/31/2011 1:31:07 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: philman_36; Yaelle
Found this facebook site for Armenian muslims.

With this post ---

"In Egypt we have a relatively large Armenian community.. I had several Armenians at school, nut they were older than me so I had no chance to have an Armenian friend.. Armenians a prominent and famous in Egypt for several reason.. We had an Ar...menian Prime Minister in Egyptian contemporary history.. Armenians are famous in Egypt as Architects, they also are famous in making Jewelery, watch menders, cameramen in the Egyptian film industry and they are also famous as also as actors and singers.. In history Arab Muslims seem to have conquered Armenia, and to have dwelt there for some time...May Armenians who live in Egypt have Arabized Armenian names..I mean their Armenian surnames seem to be made up of words having an Arabic meaning..or an Semi-Arabic name.."

131 posted on 03/31/2011 1:33:05 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: Mozilla

They’re Probing...expect every CONUS military base to go on a higher alert very soon if not already there.


132 posted on 03/31/2011 1:35:37 PM PDT by Amigo04
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To: Yaelle
You are mostly correct. Armenians are probably 95% Christian. I have a pic somewhere of myself with an Armenian in front of an Armenian church....

Like you I am aghast that Armenians would be involved in a probable terrorist approach.

133 posted on 03/31/2011 1:36:13 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: CaliforniaCon

Armenians and Russians are very happy together and both have a strong dislike for Georgians. To be very generalized...but still it is true.


134 posted on 03/31/2011 1:41:11 PM PDT by MarMema (chains we can believe in)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Right, I more-a-less agree. You can’t just ask God for help; you have to be sincere, have faith, truly believe and actually make a concerted effort to be helped. One cannot passively sit by and wait to be disappointed by God’s apparent inactivity on their behalf. Like you said - live well and be well, live poorly and wallow (again, more-a-less).


135 posted on 03/31/2011 1:45:12 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Mr. Bird

Perhaps another dry run?


136 posted on 03/31/2011 1:45:12 PM PDT by willibeaux
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To: Yaelle
Ok, I stand corrected.
Thanks for not taking it the wrong way. My reply was meant to be informative, not as a rebuke.

But also, as some of us suggested, these could be men with fake IDs that list them as Armenian to avoid detection as Islamist terrorists.
Well if law enforcement, at many levels, has done their job properly then there should be no doubt.
If I see any more info on it I'll give you a ping if nobody else has. You'll probably beat me to the thread though. Yours is a hard name to forget and I see some of the threads you visit.

137 posted on 03/31/2011 1:48:09 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MarMema

We work with dear people every day who are Armenian. They are good people and quite religious. They seem to be a denomination like Catholics. I believe it’s probably around 95% Christian, in LA. However, these men in question could have been from the ME and not locals at all, or just using false identities.


138 posted on 03/31/2011 1:49:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MarMema
Your link is just one of many. There's plenty out there showing the religious make up of Armenians.
Islam is a small percentage as you say, but it is there. And I don't fault them for legally migrating to the US one bit. I wouldn't want to live in an Islamist country either.
139 posted on 03/31/2011 1:51:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MarMema
Let me rephrase that...
If I were a Christian >I wouldn't want to live in an Islamist country either.
140 posted on 03/31/2011 1:52:59 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: MarMema
And I think this information is critical to figuring out what they were planning to do.

From the Centers for Disease Control:

"Where sodium azide is found and how it is used:

* Sodium azide is best known as the chemical found in automobile airbags. An electrical charge triggered by automobile impact causes sodium azide to explode and release nitrogen gas inside the airbag.
* Sodium azide is used as a chemical preservative in hospitals and laboratories. Accidents have occurred in these settings. In one case, sodium azide was poured into a drain, where it exploded and the toxic gas was inhaled (breathed in).
* Sodium azide is used in agriculture (farming) for pest control.
* Sodium azide is also used in detonators and other explosives."

Scary.

141 posted on 03/31/2011 1:55:32 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: soycd

“Gee, I wonder what these scumuzzy koran heads were going to attach to those wires? Sounds like a suicide drive thru/into plan.”

ding ding ding we have a winner... those wires are from the G sensors of the car to tell the bags to deploy when an impact over a certain threshold is reached. Now why would one want to disable an airbag? hum maybe they are planing to ram into something and don’t want to be blinded by the bags going off. That and those impact sensor makes a damn fine trigger mechanism for suicidal towelmonkeys. Back in the early 2000’s post 9/11 when I was a still a wee little MP when we stood guard at the main gates we had K rails set up at 2 points the first was the checkpoint/stop point the second was if someone blew by the first point they entered the kill-zone in front of the second set of K rails behind which we had hummvee’s with M249’s guns up on them. One lowely little PFC would be sent out to wave and shout STOP before he hit the dirt and we opened up with our 249’s. This Base commander should be charged with negligence.

These damn monkeys were probing as such they are enemy combatants, they should have been captured, water boarded and sent to the hotel gitmo or better yet just disappear them they serve no purpose in a western modern society. When people finally wake up and realize it’s us or them down to the last man the extermination of our enemy can begin in ernest there can be no peace one side will have to genocide the other. This is a total war and extermination is the only solution, they are already playing by those rule we need to get with the program or be slaughtered. They will get nukes eventually and they will use them fuc<ing wake UP!


142 posted on 03/31/2011 3:01:03 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("SRT stops those who stop at nothing")
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To: soycd
Gee, I wonder what these scumuzzy koran heads were going to attach to those wires? Sounds like a suicide drive thru/into plan.

Sounds like a detonator set up....drive into the base and cruse around....drive into a building filled with soldiers and guess what....

....the air bag goes off.

143 posted on 03/31/2011 3:29:32 PM PDT by spokeshave (Half-American, non natural-born, starts war without Congress OK, while on vacation in Brazil.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Out the window? Some stenographer somewhere has probably beat you to it!

but wait, the neighbor may call the Haz Mat team ....


144 posted on 03/31/2011 4:41:21 PM PDT by Joined2Justify (Liberals? Oh I get it now, they mean pseudo-liberal FAKE liberal... I get it)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Just looked on Goog Earth and it looks like a full set of pop-ups, to block north and south bound traffic. Probably about 400 ‘ past the guard house.


145 posted on 03/31/2011 5:00:31 PM PDT by Joined2Justify (Liberals? Oh I get it now, they mean pseudo-liberal FAKE liberal... I get it)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Bloody swiss cheese and a slice of ham on pumphernickle to go please.


146 posted on 03/31/2011 5:06:51 PM PDT by Joined2Justify (Liberals? Oh I get it now, they mean pseudo-liberal FAKE liberal... I get it)
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To: Hacklehead

> doesn’t matter where the base is<

So what part of N Carolina or SC were you suggesting we bomb??


147 posted on 03/31/2011 5:11:51 PM PDT by Joined2Justify (Liberals? Oh I get it now, they mean pseudo-liberal FAKE liberal... I get it)
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To: Lurker

Not too late. Find them and then shoot them.


148 posted on 03/31/2011 5:15:26 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: ohioWfan

“This is so scary. Not only because more attacks are being plotted and tested, but because we have an administration that doesn’t give a rip.”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Actually the administration DOES give a rip, the administration is actively promoting this kind of activity. The administration is dedicated to the destruction of America.


149 posted on 03/31/2011 5:18:52 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Mozilla

“after three Middle Eastern men tried to enter the base last weekend on multiple occasions in multiple vehicles.”

No worries. This is just part of the new NASA Muslim focus.

These guys are just trying to find the astronaut application center. They assumed they could become Marine pilots first and then transition to NASA.


150 posted on 03/31/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Yes We Can, have smaller government)
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