Skip to comments.Gaddafi army 'not at breaking point'
Posted on 03/31/2011 8:05:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Libya leader Muammar Gaddafi's armed forces are not close to breaking point despite hundreds of allied air strikes, American military chiefs have said.
Adm Mike Mullen told a US Congress committee Col Gaddafi's troops still had 10 times the rebels' firepower.
At the same hearing, Defence Secretary Robert Gates reiterated the US would put no "boots on the ground" in Libya.
Rebels and pro-Gaddafi forces appear to have reached a stalemate in their fight for control of the country.
In recent days, rebels have been urging international forces to conduct more air strikes.
Adm Mullen told the House of Representatives armed forces committee that bad weather had stopped them from identifying targets over the past three or four days.
"[The weather] has more than anything else reduced the impact... reduced the effectiveness, and has allowed the regime forces to move back to the east," the AFP news agency quoted him as saying.
Despite the weather, he said the air strikes since the beginning of the operation had wiped out between 20% and 25% of Col Gaddafi's forces.
"We have actually fairly seriously degraded his military capabilities. That does not mean he's about to break, from a military standpoint, because that's not the case," he said.
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I was referring to Gates...a generally honorable man though weak SecDef.
I'm guessing he wants nothing but OUT.
So Qaddafi has set free the Libyan fighters returned to him from Iraq and told them to go back there and fight some more. Can you tell us more about your source for this interesting tidbit.
The wimp in the White House has established wimp rules of engagement, thus they are only allowed to kill the enemy if there is no collateral damage to even a mailbox.
Otherwise this would have been over in two days.
I don’t trust any speaking for the Government...but in this case I sure hope Gates continues to take this stand. I will be really and truly p*ssed off if Bozo sends our guys there....let the freaking British and French finish this thing off...
Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Gaddafi survived an Islamist revolt and assassination attempt in the 1995/1996 time frame. I'm sure his attitude - like that of every other Muslim government - is "better us than him". It's the same reason that Muslim governments generally release the prisoners we hand to them - unless those prisoners are guilty of attacking the regime. It's pretty clear to the Muslim masses why they would imprison someone plotting against the regime. Why would they hold someone trying to kill Americans - unless that Muslim government was just another American puppet? Note that the Iraq government has released Iraqi guerrillas who are known to have killed GI's.
I personally think it's stupid to hand these people over to Muslim governments. Why hand them over when we know they almost always have to release them in response to public pressure? It's never been a sin to kill the infidel during the process of waging a jihad. Local Muslim populations probably think Muslim governments should give returned jihadists medals and dancing girls.
Al Qaeda associated LIFG prisoners released by Qaddafi after agreeing to a new code of jihad.
Bonus link showing Qaddafi's support to the Muslim Brotherhood, outside of Libya.
I agree with that. Qaddafi and the LIFG is exibit A that proves that point.
Actually, this isn't the LIFG's code of jihad - it's the Muslim world's code of jihad. This is why Muslim governments keep releasing the jihadists we hand over to them - unless those jihadists are also guilty of plotting against their home governments, in which case hellish tortures await them.
Qaddafi killed 189 of our citizens at Lockerbie. Qaddafi killed our servicemen in Germany. Qaddafi has released all of the Al Qaeda associated LIFG fighters from his prisons over the last two year and Qaddafi has told them to head back to Iraq and Afghanistan to wage jihad.
My position, regardless of what ever the hell Obama is doing, is that we should remove the terrorist Qaddafi and that we should remove all Al Qaeda that we find.
Anything short of that is appeasement.
Do you actually disagree?
The AQ “rebels” are now fighting against Qadaffi. I think he’s is a tyrant, but that doesn’t mean I support “rebels” that we have no idea about, let alone funding them and giving them air support.
You may have missed it, FRiend, but NATO today warned these “rebels” that unless they stop killing civilians, they will be Obombed as well.
How does it feel to be an Obomba supporter, FRiend?
Does the UN and Obama have the nads to do that?
Of course not.
Does the American public have the will to do that?
Doesn't look like.
I think at some point down the road, we will pay this.
Actually, Obama's and the UN's inaction most likely will result in a rebel controlled E. Libya and a Qaddafi controlled W. Libya. Both sides will remain. That's certainly what we have right now. That seems awfully close to your position.
As I've pointed out now numerous times, I want both Qaddafi and Al Qaeda removed from Libya. That is NOT Obuma's position... and it isn't yours.
Enjoy your support of Obama and the UN.
Will only comes into the picture if the American public thinks the rebels are the good guys and deserve our help. My impression is that their beer goggles are clearing up, and what appeared to be a young and pretty brunette from a distance is turning out to be a worn-out Helen Thomas look-alike.
Huh? I'm against this intervention, at least in terms of how your guy Obomba rushed to war without knowing who or what he was funding.
You may want to read your posts in this thread again, FRiend. Your only ally seems to be some kook comparing this to Vietnam.
Okay, Obama is not my guy, which either makes you stupid or a liar.
You accused me of supporting Obomba and the UN. Need help on reading your own posts, FRiend?
Your post #59...read it. You accused me of being an Obama supporter. That makes it ironic FRiend that you say I need help reading my own posts.
Your post, to me, said that you approved of Obomba’s actions regarding Libya. If I was wrong, I do apologize!
You would have to show me such a post.
I have posted numerous times that I believe Obama doesn't want to remove Qaddafi and he doesn't want to address any possible Al Qaeda involvement with the rebels. Those two things are the opposite of what I want.
Perhaps it's late and you misread.
Americans need to distance themselves from Obama
‘and I’ve had too many checks from customers bounce the last couple of years.”
I hear ya there. Rumor has it that his health plan sucks though.
Just why doesn’t nobama release the al queda detainees in GITMO to go fight in Libya on our allies’ (the al queda Rebels’) side against Gadhafi? Wouldn’t that solve his GITMO “problem”?
“Should take us less than 10000 days to clear it all up.”
Right!!! Then we can establish heaven on Earth, “DEMOCRACY”...I wonder why the founders never mentioned democracy...was there something about that word they didn’t like? UUmmmm.....those Libyan rebels probably woundn’t know a democrat from a camel, maybe we’ll just let them set up whatever they like, maybe a head choppin’, rip roarin’ Sharia monstrosity or some such. Whatever they do I’m certain it will be MUCH better than Gadaffy Duck, yeah, that’s the ticket.
Not at “breaking pont”?. Hell, Qadaffi’s forces are advancing and winning big time!
Several Cyrenaican cities have deep connections to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), an Islamist terrorist group opposed to Qaddafi that formally joined al-Qaeda in 2007. Libyans comprised the second largest group of foreign suicide bombers used by al-Qaeda in Iraq, the majority of whom were from Cyrenaica. U.S. Admiral James Stavridis, NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe who is overseeing operations in Libya, recently said there were flickers of an al-Qaeda and even a Hezbollah presence among the rebels
Every soldier I’ve talked to loves Gates. You only have to speak to the man to see the love and care he has for American troops. During the Bush admistration he got the usual “Bush’s stooge” insults from the left and I’m afraid many of the attacks on him now are part of the script that now that he’s not working for our guy we need to start jumping on him.
They DO understand what would happen to them if they lose. That's why they're going to fight like hell to exterminate the rebels and drive them into Egypt.
And back to Afganastan where they can resume killing our Armed Forces men and women. my question is, will their cheerleaders on this forum still be allowed to cheer them on?
IMHO, if the British and the French wanted Colonel Daffy out so badly, they should had sent ground troops to seize Tripoli while the rebels still had momentum. Now if it looks like the regime will be able to remain in power, how is it going to benefit the West if Libya becomes a pariah state once again? Only this time with nothing to fear since it would had survived a direct attack from the West already.
Even IF (God Willing) we get rid of him, we are left cleaning up his mess. He has no clue what he’s doing! Those “rebels” are pre-historic animals/they’ll never be civilized. These are tribes that walk through a desert, hide in caves..climb mountains sleep in them. Ride camels for God’s sake. Watch and see....they’ve had 10 years to create this diversion. The threats are still very here and it’s coming soon. because this govt cant agree on anything.
i’ll bet you that at least 80percent of us dont know these Arab names..Mousa Kousa (or whatveer the hell!) These cities? OMG!! Tsunamis, Earthquakes. Radiation Contamination, Tornados. He’s the AntiChrist!!(maybe?)
should not be there, should not have done the bombing, the media has covered up the whole affair, Obama goes on vacation and then wages war , NATO has no legal right to be there and this has been a Mickey Mouse show.
Now the media will again cover for their messiah while the masses talk about factor X , who will win and then hear the talking bumper sticker points from the left and then repeat them
This is what we get when we get a man voted in fairly or unfairly who had no experience, voted in due to his color, slogans like yes we can and hope and change.
If any left wing trolls are reading this then well done on being the dumbest voters in our history, yes we can ARF, idiots
except there is boots on the ground, they’re called forward observation officers and looking at the air strikes, directing etc.
This war is not right, we should not be there and neither does NATO.
Yet again the left wages a war without congressional approval, stay silent and wages a war on a country which has no direct immediate security threats on us
who are the dim wits not understand?
Because we do have boots on the ground and he is lying plus anyone who has served knows how this all works so again these dim wits are the ones who actually understand we do have boots on the ground and the dimwits are the ones who have no clue and think we do not
That's how it started in Vietnam, we sent in advisors, then advisors started getting killed, so we had to send in troops to protect the advisors, and then it just snowballed from there.
this is why it is important to elect someone who knows about the world and more importantly our military.
This has been Mickey mouse from the get go and that is on top of we should not be there anyway nor should NATO
NAIL ON HEAD
This man has been bust putting cross dressers, homosexuals etc into our military and not understand how they work or what they’re for.
COrps, =corpse for him.
Still the media have been doing their jobs and covering for their messiah including FOX
correct but the problem with the left and this muppet in power is that they do not understand history.
What a shambles this all is and yet as long as the journalists see their 401k’s go up on the market then they will keep covering for the left .
Trying to make us believe they are issuing contrary policy statements these two must really think we're imbeciles.....kinda on a par with the administration's brilliant Mr. Peepers press secretary.
I don't trust either one of them as far as I can throw them.
How a principled Republican cabinet member could flip and work for Obama is beyond me....and how he has stuck with him like glue for all this time is telling....Gates is an opportunistic little weasel without a moral compass just like his boss.....which is bad news for our troops in the leadership picture.
I have a feeling Gates will soon crack from pressure emanating from his own internal moral dilemnas....he looks like hell already in his close-ups.
CIA operatives, and possibly Special Ops forces, wearing sandals do not count
as “boots on the ground”.
One more confirmation of where the LIFG enjoy total freedom over the years to operate from.
Rebels and pro-Gaddafi forces appear to have reached a stalemate in their fight for control of the country.Let's see -- before Zero and his co-idiots jumped into this manure pile, the lawless jihadists were getting their asses handed to them, and were steadily crying out for air strikes and assassination. Sounds like they're right at the end of their rope again.
In recent days, rebels have been urging international forces to conduct more air strikes.
That’s right....and hopefully they will remain incognito until the job is done and come home safely.