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The great Moon Hoax of 1835
PhysOrg.com ^ | Apr. 4, 2011 | fishtank

Posted on 04/04/2011 1:57:43 PM PDT by fishtank

The great Moon Hoax of 1835

April 4, 2011 By Nancy Atkinson, Universe Today

"Say the words “Moon Hoax” these days, and everyone thinks you are talking about the people who don’t believe the Apollo astronauts ever went to the Moon. But back in 1835 there was the original Moon hoax that thousands of people fell for, despite the tall tale being complete fiction. A series of articles were published in the New York Sun newspaper reporting incredible new astronomical observations of the Moon supposedly made by astronomer Sir John Herschel during an observing run at the Cape of Good Hope with his powerful new telescope. Detailed descriptions of winged beings, plants, animals and a sapphire temple increased sales and subscriptions to the fledgling newspaper."

More at the link.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1800sfiction; catastrophism; hoax; moon; moonhoax; ohsomysteriouso; xplanets
Hmmmm.

LOTS of madeup science fiction from the early 1800s is STILL believed today.............

1 posted on 04/04/2011 1:57:51 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

"A lithograph published in the New York Sun newspaper in 1835 showing life on the Moon. Credit: Wikipedia"

from the article

2 posted on 04/04/2011 1:59:12 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Interesting post...somewhat amusing.


3 posted on 04/04/2011 1:59:33 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: fishtank

I’m wondering if that’s where Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of Mormonism got his idea of Pilgrim type people living on the moon.


4 posted on 04/04/2011 1:59:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: fishtank

Must have been a Scientology pub...............


5 posted on 04/04/2011 1:59:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 1,714 threads and 64,019 replies as of 04-04-2011)
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To: fishtank

Plenty of gullible people in the world, both then and today who believe in lots of foolish stuff...


6 posted on 04/04/2011 2:00:58 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: fishtank

FLASH:

Life on moon extinct due to global warming.


7 posted on 04/04/2011 2:08:20 PM PDT by Crim
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To: SkyDancer

That was my first thought, too, as well.

The early 1800s must have been an interesting time, to say the least.


8 posted on 04/04/2011 2:09:51 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Red Badger

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/1836_the-great-moon-hoax-new-inhabitants-of-the-moon.png/220px-1836_the-great-moon-hoax-new-inhabitants-of-the-moon.png

Here’s a link to a man-bat drawing.....


9 posted on 04/04/2011 2:11:52 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank; All

Now we know where Weekly World News got it's start.

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10 posted on 04/04/2011 2:15:21 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: fishtank

That’s obviously wrong. Everyone knows that the skeleton discovered on the moon by our Apollo astronauts was wearing blue jeans and tennis shoes when they found it.


11 posted on 04/04/2011 2:17:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: fishtank

Hmmmm. Looks like moonbats have been around since well before the ‘60s.


12 posted on 04/04/2011 2:18:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: fishtank

The reincarnation of The New York Sun not so many years ago (now only available on the web) produced a very different newspaper than the one that printed the moon hoax of 1835.

http://www.nysun.com/


13 posted on 04/04/2011 2:21:25 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

WOW!!!!!!!

That looks like a great paper (no hoax....).


14 posted on 04/04/2011 2:30:52 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Suckers. Everyone knows that stuff is all on Mars.


15 posted on 04/04/2011 2:36:17 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: fishtank

But, did Herschel discover the birth certificate there?


16 posted on 04/04/2011 2:36:52 PM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: fishtank

Hmmmm.

Just like Global Warming.


17 posted on 04/04/2011 2:46:50 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: fishtank
"Dateline 1835... Fake but Accurate!"


18 posted on 04/04/2011 2:49:27 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: fishtank
Al Gore published findings on “Global Warming” as a joke back in 1989.

He meant it to be a joke, but soon found out that it was very profitable. He figured a way to scam the public through “carbon credits” where he had a product that he never had to deliver that didn’t exist.

The descriptions were allegedly reprinted from the nonexistent Edinburgh Journal of Climate Science, and only several decades after the articles were published did questions arise about the truth of these tales. The newspaper did not issue a retraction back then, and now, even over 32 years later has not issued a full retraction of it, either.

It is said that Gore was initially amused by the hoax, noting that his own real observations could never be as exciting. But he became annoyed later when he had to answer questions from people who believed the hoax was a scam.

19 posted on 04/04/2011 2:52:01 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: SkyDancer
I’m wondering if that’s where Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of Mormonism got his idea of Pilgrim type people living on the moon.

FYI, the idea that Joseph Smith believed in moon people came from someone writing about it in the 1880's, 40 years after the fact. There are no contemporary accounts of Joseph teaching this, and nothing in his own writings about moon people.

20 posted on 04/04/2011 3:02:57 PM PDT by oremites
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To: BenLurkin
Everyone knows that the skeleton discovered on the moon by our Apollo astronauts was wearing blue jeans and tennis shoes when they found it.

Nikes, with ZOOM.


21 posted on 04/04/2011 3:06:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: oremites

It’s not a question of him teaching it. I read accounts where he spoke of it well before his death.


22 posted on 04/04/2011 3:08:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: fishtank

For a short while (I can’t remember the years) it was THE BEST local newspaper in New York. It was intellectually Conservative but avoided all the “yellow journalism” and sensationalism of The Post and The Daily News.

Since it appealed to the more serious news-reader, it also did not garner the ad revenue that print journalism must have just to exist.

When the owners of The New York Sun had to quit their print edition, I was left with the WSJ as the only good alternative to the New York Times. After a few years hiatus, they restarted the web version of the Sun, which is almost as good as the old print version.

Now, under NewsCorp, which bought the WSJ, it - the WSJ - continues to become more Liberal every day on every page but the editorial pages - which were left in the hands of the former owners of Dow Jones (which owned the WSJ and was sold to Murdoch’s NewsCorp).


23 posted on 04/04/2011 3:09:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: oremites; Colofornian; Elsie; greyfoxx39

Can any of you all add to this?

Something is not adding up here, but my memory is bad in this.


24 posted on 04/04/2011 3:11:16 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: oremites
" "Nearly all the great discoveries of men in the last half century have, in one way or another, either directly or indirectly, contributed to prove Joseph Smith to be a Prophet.

As far back as 1837, I know that he said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do - that they live generally to near the age of a 1000 years.

He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style.

In my Patriarchal blessing, given by the father of Joseph the Prophet, in Kirtland, 1837, I was told that I should preach the gospel before I was 21 years of age; that I should preach the gospel to the inhabitants upon the islands of the sea, and - to the inhabitants of the moon, even the planet you can now behold with your eyes.

The first two promises have been fulfilled, and the latter may be verified.

From the verification of two promises we may reasonably expect the third to be fulfilled also."

(This is the exact (though not complete) text of an article in "The Young Woman's Journal", an LDS magazine of the 1890s. The article is dated "Feb 6, 1892". )

25 posted on 04/04/2011 3:12:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If You Don't Read The News You're Uninformed, If You Do Read The News You're Misinformed")
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To: fishtank

26 posted on 04/04/2011 3:15:29 PM PDT by rdax
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To: oremites

President Brigham Young not only taught the moon was inhabited, but the SUN as well. In a sermon delivered in the Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, President Young made these unbelievable statements:

“Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 271)


27 posted on 04/04/2011 3:31:41 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass

Man, you just stirred the pot. Any truth you reveal these days will cost you, no matter whom it affects.


28 posted on 04/04/2011 3:59:33 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: fishtank

***New York Sun newspaper ****

I read about this back in the 1960s from a popular mechanical or scientific magazine. I still have the article.

Wonder if this is where Joseph Smith got his idea of men on the moon!


29 posted on 04/04/2011 4:03:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: fishtank
I am reminded of an OLD old Wizard of ID cartoon from about 1970.

The Spook(prisoner in the dungeon) digs his way out. When he sticks his head out of the hole, he is on the moon and sees the American flag with astronaut footprints all around it.

He then crawls back into his cell, calls the jailer and asks for the definition of “affluent society”.

30 posted on 04/04/2011 4:09:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

There once was a restaurant on the moon but it got closed down. Claims are it had no “atmosphere”.


31 posted on 04/04/2011 4:20:30 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: freebird5850

rim shot needed here...


32 posted on 04/04/2011 4:42:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fishtank
Here are several comments:




Moon/Sun Prophecies

Back to Mormon Quotes Index


“ ‘Inhabitants of the Moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the Earth, being about 6 feet in height.  They dress very much like the Quaker Style & are quite general in Style, or the one fashion of dress.  They live to be very old; comeing [sic] generally, near a thousand years.’ This is the description of them as given by Joseph the Seer, and he could ‘See’ whatever he asked the Father in the name of Jesus to see.”

-    Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., in Journal of O.B. Huntington, Book 14, p. 166

“Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?... When you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows.  So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun.  Do you think it is inhabited?  I rather think it is.  Do you think there is any life there?  No question of it; it was not made in vain.”

-    Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 271

“In my Patriarchal blessing, given by the father of Joseph the Prophet, in Kirtland, 1837, I was told that I should preach the gospel before I was 21 years of age; that I should preach the gospel to the inhabitants upon the islands of the sea, and – to the inhabitants of the moon, even the planet you can now behold with your eyes.”

-    O.B. Huntington, The Young Women’s Journal, v. 3, pp. 263-264 (1892)

“Now what about the Prophet Joseph Smith?  I don’t know whether he said men live on the moon or not.  But whether he did or not troubles me not in the least.  A prophet is wonderful because he sometimes speaks for the Lord.  This occurs on certain occasions when the Lord wills it.”

-    Dr. Henry Eyring, The Faith of a Scientist

“If [the sun] was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets; and so will this earth when it is celestialized. Every planet in the first rude, organic state receives not the glory of God upon it, but is opaque; but when celstialized, every planet that God brings into existence is a body of light, but not till then.”

-    Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 271

“As far back as 1837, I know he [Smith] said the moon was inhabited by men and women the same as this earth, and that they lived to a greater age than we do – that they live generally to near the age of 1000 years. He described the men as averaging near six feet in height, and dressing quite uniformly in something near the Quaker style.”

-    O.B. Huntington, “The Inhabitants of the Moon,” The Young Woman’s Journal, 1892, v. 3, pp. 263-164




33 posted on 04/04/2011 4:59:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: fishtank
"Everybody knows I was the first one there"


34 posted on 04/04/2011 5:20:50 PM PDT by hattend (Obama got his 3am call about Egypt. The call went right to the answering machine.- Sarah Palin)
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To: SkyDancer
Yes, that's the guy I'm talking about. Don't you think it's a little suspicious that only one person has ever mentioned hearing this amazing proclamation, and not until 40 years after it supposedly happened.

I don't believe Joseph Smith ever taught anything of the kind.

35 posted on 04/04/2011 8:35:31 PM PDT by oremites
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To: greyfoxx39
You'll notice that all quotes attributed to Joseph Smith about moon people go back to O. B. Huntington and no one else. Not one other person claims to have heard Joseph say that. Personally, I believe that Brother Huntington was somewhat of a nutcase.
36 posted on 04/04/2011 8:41:31 PM PDT by oremites
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To: fishtank

The face on the moon?


37 posted on 04/04/2011 8:41:48 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: hattend

I saw that movie at the the theater years ago!


38 posted on 04/05/2011 8:23:57 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: oremites; greyfoxx39; fishtank; All
You'll notice that all quotes attributed to Joseph Smith about moon people go back to O. B. Huntington and no one else.

Not all the Lds "prophet" quotes made about moon people arise from second-hand sources named Huntington.

Greyfoxx39 cited Brigham Young: Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon? ...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain. Source: Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, p. 271...1870 --

So this was a false prophesy made by Young (yes, no, or typical Mormon crickets' answer when forced to face reality?)

Here Brigham Young had already been leading the Lds church for over 25 years or so when he made the above comment -- including around 25 years as its "prophet."

Brigham Young's first counselor was "apostle" Heber C. Kimball: "Where did the earth come from? From its parents earths...The earth is alive. If it was not, it could not produce." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 36, 1857)

Yeah. We can tell the top two members of the Lds church in the 1850s, 1860s, and 1870s were in touch with the Mormon god if this was their somewhere-over-the-rainbow ramblings.

39 posted on 04/06/2011 12:28:07 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Well, Colofornian, since you don’t seem to have anything to add to the subject we were talking about (Joseph Smith teaching about moon people), I can only assume that you agree with my assertion that it is very unlikely that Joseph ever really said that quote attributed to him.


40 posted on 04/07/2011 5:02:27 AM PDT by oremites
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To: fishtank

I’m surprised they haven’t made a movie out of this, have it flop, “reboot” it a few years later and have that one flop and then reboot it again......


41 posted on 04/07/2011 5:09:22 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: oremites
Well, Colofornian, since you don’t seem to have anything to add to the subject we were talking about (Joseph Smith teaching about moon people)

Seems to me that Mormons are suppose to make more about the "office" (role as "prophet") than the personality...

...the wardrobe rather than the one filling it...

Hence, the real discussion is about the alleged platform -- the Mormons' so-called "living prophetic mouthpiece"...

Since your living "prophet" has proclaimed that moon men are so, who are YOU to disagree with his authoritative directive from the Mormon god?

42 posted on 04/07/2011 9:05:46 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

So I take it from your reply that you agree with me that it is very unlikely that Joseph Smith ever said anything about moon people.


43 posted on 04/08/2011 5:15:07 AM PDT by oremites
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Thanks fishtank. Ping list members, beware the off-topic sectarian turmoil.


44 posted on 11/30/2012 7:14:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks fishtank. Ping list members, beware the off-topic sectarian turmoil.
 
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45 posted on 11/30/2012 7:18:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SkyDancer
I’m wondering if that’s where Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of Mormonism got his idea of Pilgrim type people living on the moon

Wasn't it Bringem Young who said, "Not only on the moon but the Sun too"?

The moon is more believable.

46 posted on 11/30/2012 7:51:00 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Graybeard58

Geepers, I posted that back in April 2011 - maybe they lived on the dark side of the sun where it’s cooler. LOL


47 posted on 11/30/2012 7:58:12 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
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To: fishtank

180 years from now there will be articles on the great global warming hoax of the early 2000’s.


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To: SkyDancer
Geepers, I posted that back in April 2011 -

I didn't even notice the posting date, I just got pinged to it today. Somebody resurrected it.

50 posted on 11/30/2012 10:19:25 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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