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Number of White Children Falling Fast (Whites already minority of child populations in 10 states)
New York Times ^

Posted on 04/06/2011 11:51:43 AM PDT by quesney

America’s population of white children, a majority now, will be in the minority during this decade, sooner than previously expected, according to a new report.

The Census Bureau had originally forecast that 2023 would be the tipping point for the minority population under the age of 18. But rapid growth among Latinos, Asians and people of more than one race has pushed it earlier, to 2019, according to William Frey, the senior demographer at the Brookings Institution who wrote the report about the shift, which has far-reaching political and policy implications.

The single largest increase was among Hispanics, whose birthrates are far above those of non-Hispanic whites, largely because the white population is aging and proportionally has fewer women in their child-bearing years. The median age of whites is 41, compared with 27 for Hispanics, the report said.

As a result, America’s future will include a far more diverse young population, and a largely white older generation. The contrast raises important policy questions. Will the older generation pay for educating a younger generation that looks less like itself? And while the young population is a potential engine of growth for the economy, will it be a burden if it does not have access to adequate education?

The population of white children fell by 4.3 million, or about 10 percent, in the last decade, while the population of Hispanic and Asian children grew by 5.5 million, or about 38 percent, according to the report, which was based on 2010 Census numbers.

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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Rewarding bad behavior gets you more bad behavior...one could say it becomes a "breeding ground" of bad behavior.

Whereas those pulling the wagon don't breed what they can't feed.

101 posted on 04/06/2011 1:46:05 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: MrB

I know Canada is even more liberal than the US, but I just got back from Alberta, and I would move there in a heartbeat when the SHTF here.


102 posted on 04/06/2011 1:49:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

In a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI situation,
I’d like to be somewhere with a decent growing season...


103 posted on 04/06/2011 1:50:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Well, that would be a heck of an opeinging line. “I have been sent by G-d...”


104 posted on 04/06/2011 1:52:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: triumphant values

Exactly my point, why do we measure on ethnic appearance and not character? I would never even think of saying to my son or daughter they should not get into a relationship with someone because of their ethnicity.


105 posted on 04/06/2011 1:52:52 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: triumphant values
Yes, many immigrants from those areas came to the US and were naturalized. You are aware of efforts to restrict immigration from those areas of Europe, yes? As for popular opinion, have you ever read some of the editorials or seen some of the derogatory cartoons from mainstream newspapers of the time as related to immigrants from Southern, Southeastern Europe, and Ireland?
106 posted on 04/06/2011 2:02:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: quesney

Surprise, surprise; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies.

Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisan Washington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S. The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising.

Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania (59%).

http://nation.foxnews.com/illegal-immigrants/2011/04/05/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare


107 posted on 04/06/2011 2:18:54 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: Army Air Corps
Here's a whole book on how the race of Italians was regarded in America


108 posted on 04/06/2011 2:25:13 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“If we ever get to deport all of these illegal aliens... this trend will reverse.”

I would heartily endorse deporting every single one of them, but that is NEVER going to happen.

They aren’t even going to “self-deport”, because — for most — the “worst” conditions they face here may be considerably better than the “best” conditions they faced wherever they came from (mostly Mexico).

There’s never going to be a Congressional majority and/or a president who would do such a thing.

And we are rapidly approaching a point where the majority of Americans would be opposed to it, as well.

Picture THIS, American style:
http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/gallery/46199.htm
(I apologize for not being able to embed the pic directly into this posting)

When Americans call for exactly what you see in the pic in the link above, en masse, then - AND ONLY THEN - will we be able to “deport all the illegals”.

It just ain’t gonna happen here.

And before you go raging at me for making the analogy I have drawn through that pic, I’m no more happy about it then you are. In fact, I would _support_ exactly the kind of actions you see depicted in the link.

I used to rage against amnesty, too, but I’ve become convinced that even if we never grant “amnesty” to a single illegal, it won’t make a damn bit of difference twenty years’ hence. Because they’re all going to “auto-legalize” through their children, who of course are natural American citizens through their birth on American soil. And compared to American/Euros, Hispanic birth rates are alarming.

There are only two ways that this “auto-legalization through progeny” can be stopped:
1. Forcibly deport the illegal parents, AND
2. Strip their children of their U.S. citizenship by birth.

And again, that ain’t gonna happen.

As much as I loathe the New York Times and wish they would go bankrupt, they’re just pointing out the reality of demographics here. And if you’re a Euro/American like me, the future doesn’t look so good.

One of the most poignant conservative statements I ever read was a simple two-sentence adage, coined [I believe] by someone in old America Online “Issues” forums named “LizardNC”:
“Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.”

Doesn’t sound like much more than a play on words. But therein lies the bedrock upon which conservative thought and reason must begin.

I’ve accepted that logic, for better and for worse.

And the reality of demographics in America is that the Euro-Americans have abrogated their collective responsibilities to protect their nation, culture, borders, and ethnic heritage, and forgotten that they (like all the other people of the Earth) have an absolute right to PROTECT and to DEFEND such things against outsiders and invaders.

Multiculturalism and “diversity” have effectively “disarmed” us. And into that vacuum pours the multitudes under pressure from elsewhere.

Perhaps we are going to see a time when enough Euro-Americans will re-congregate themselves to certain portions of the country (which may not remain a unified “country” for much longer afterwards) so that that “cultural pressure” will be restored to a level where it can be effectively defended and promoted without fear. I won’t be around, but some of the younger ones here might see it.

Historically, South Africa had something called “The Great Trek”. Could the same happen here?

But deport the illegals?
C’mon.....


109 posted on 04/06/2011 2:31:51 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: All

Anyone know how much decent farm-worthy acreage is going for in Canada?


110 posted on 04/06/2011 2:32:59 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Perhaps we will move back to Europe, where we at least can be native and reestablish some sanity there. Demography is destiny.


111 posted on 04/06/2011 2:50:06 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Army Air Corps
As for popular opinion, have you ever read some of the editorials or seen some of the derogatory cartoons from mainstream newspapers of the time as related to immigrants from Southern, Southeastern Europe, and Ireland?

"All right... we'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks. But we don't want the Irish!"

112 posted on 04/06/2011 3:05:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I bought that movie recently. It’s a classic, classic comedy.


113 posted on 04/06/2011 3:08:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: triumphant values

Well, I’d just direct you to the Immigration Act, and let you draw your own conclusions. Italians and Greeks may not have been considered “colored,” but they were certainly seen as less desirable and therefore less “white” than those from England, France, Germany, etc. The Immigration Act put these preferences into law.


114 posted on 04/06/2011 3:12:10 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Amberdawn

I have thought about the land of my ancestors...Poland. Still relatively homogeneous (97% are ethnic Poles, I think only Japan exceeds this). I suppose it was the one silver lining of being behind the Iron Curtain, that it restricted the flow of immigrants, unlike most of Western Europe, I’ve started to look at the Highlands area, around Zakopane, it’s real beautiful there.

As long as the Russkies don’t start making trouble there again.


115 posted on 04/06/2011 3:14:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MrB
In a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI situation, I’d like to be somewhere with a decent growing season...

If you haven't visited this site, you may find it very useful.

http://www.survivalblog.com/retreatareas.html

Here are his top 19 retreat states:

1 Idaho
2 Montana
3 Oregon
4 Washington
5 Wyoming
6 Utah
7 South Dakota
8 North Dakota
9 Arizona
10 Colorado
11 Nebraska
12 Kansas
13 Texas
14 Nevada
15 New Mexico
16 Arkansas
17 Oklahoma
18 Louisiana
19 California

116 posted on 04/06/2011 3:17:59 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: ClearCase_guy

I beg to differ; the smart ones will know where ot hit and what to avoid getting involved in. It’s not always the aggressive, but the smart that survive.


117 posted on 04/06/2011 3:23:50 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: EGPWS

Which is, in a nutshell, why it’s so expensive.


118 posted on 04/06/2011 3:25:39 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: sodpoodle

Much to my regret, I will inform you that while the Libs don’t have kids, the underclass have at least five per childless liberal.


119 posted on 04/06/2011 3:26:37 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

If you have solid jobs skills, a solid bank account, and a brain, run to Russia or the Eastern Bloc. No welfare system there thankfully and, AND your skills will get you accepted almost anywhere. Britain, the US, and much of Europe is unique in their assistance program and thankfully no moochers will be able to be accepted into any decent country without something to offer.


120 posted on 04/06/2011 3:32:29 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: B Knotts; Army Air Corps
Well, I’d just direct you to the Immigration Act, and let you draw your own conclusions. Italians and Greeks may not have been considered “colored,” but they were certainly seen as less desirable and therefore less “white” than those from England, France, Germany, etc. The Immigration Act put these preferences into law.

Which Immigration Act? The Immigration Act of 1924? It made no mention of race but it did set a country of origin system in place that restricted immigrants based on the make up of the US at the time.

It was one of the better laws every passed by Congress.

It did heavily restrict Eastern and Southern European immigration.

And the reason it passed so easily is because Southern and Eastern Europe were crawling with Commies and Anarchists and the Reds had just won the Russian Civil war 6 months earlier. Not because they didn't think Socrates was a White guy.

How many more Commies do you guys think we should have let in in the 1920s and 30s?

121 posted on 04/06/2011 3:33:32 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Oldexpat

Singapore or Thailand would be sensible and honestly I don’t see it happening any other way. The US government won’t be accepting cutbacks and the government will continue to keep soaking until there is a full collapse. It’s the only way out of this mess that’s been created. We are basically supporting one welfare loser after another and honestly I wouldn’t want to be around if the collapse happens.


122 posted on 04/06/2011 3:35:40 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

If we deport the illegals, we will still have to address the issues with the underclass and it will take a president with cajones to get rid of so many entitlements.


123 posted on 04/06/2011 3:37:02 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: jerseyrocks
Exactly my point, why do we measure on ethnic appearance and not character?

Did you just ask me why people pick mates based on appearances? Seriously?

124 posted on 04/06/2011 3:38:47 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“Call it defeatist, but I’m not voluntarily bringing people into this country where in official stance of the government is Whites are lower than whale sh*t.”

You’re not being defeatist, you’re being smart and responsible. You don’t want to bring kids into a world where they will be treated like objects and like cash cows and like toys for the amusement of piggish minroities and a selfish underclass.


125 posted on 04/06/2011 3:39:20 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: quesney

I am shaking my RACE CARD in anger!!


126 posted on 04/06/2011 3:41:18 PM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Abin Sur
I was simply pointing out that being a materialist does not require one to remain childless. Do you disagree?

Well that's moving the goal posts, but I'll answer anyway. No, there is no requirement that materialists remain childless.

But they certainly do in disproportionate numbers and the disparity is massive when compared to the religious.

And since you're a materialist and only accept materialist answers, the fact that they procreate in such low numbers must be a biological glitch in them. So I guess we're better off as a species that they don't breed.

127 posted on 04/06/2011 3:43:30 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Niuhuru
You’re not being defeatist, you’re being smart and responsible.

Well if we were all so responsible it would be the end of the species and none of this would matter would it?

Good thing some of us are still being irresponsible.

128 posted on 04/06/2011 3:45:59 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Antoninus

“Really? What European-based culture would that be? Our European-based culture is a far cry from what d’Tocqueville observed in the mid-19th century. It is closer to that of Weimar Germany. A culture that is so self-centered that it can’t even bother to perpetuate itself won’t have its freedom for long.”

Exactly. And when it dies, so dies freedom.


129 posted on 04/06/2011 3:54:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Many things are going to happen that common wisdom has implied otherwise.

LLS


130 posted on 04/06/2011 4:11:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Niuhuru
You cannot retain possession of a car in which you do not keep the payments up to date and current. The government will not have the money to pay for those entitlements and at some point, the bogus IOU’s will no longer be accepted as legal tender. One way or the other... the welfare state cannot exist. These things will happen before you know it.

LLS

131 posted on 04/06/2011 4:16:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: quesney

The invasion worked. No more steekin’ constitution to worry about anymore. It will die with whitey.


132 posted on 04/06/2011 4:32:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: quesney

A consequence of feminism.


133 posted on 04/06/2011 4:35:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: triumphant values
Well that's moving the goal posts, but I'll answer anyway. No, there is no requirement that materialists remain childless.

No goalposts were moved in the making of this argument. You asserted that my reasons for not having children were inherently materialistic. This is obviously not the case.

But they certainly do in disproportionate numbers and the disparity is massive when compared to the religious.

Compared to some religious denominations, yes. Others, not so much.

And since you're a materialist and only accept materialist answers, the fact that they procreate in such low numbers must be a biological glitch in them.

Choosing not to have any children isn't a "glitch", any more than choosing to have only 2 children rather than 10 is a "glitch". I acknowledge that my genes won't be passed on. I just don't care. The human race will get along just fine without my genetic contribution.

(although some of then actually will be passed on in the form of my nephews, who do share some of my genetic code)

So I guess we're better off as a species that they don't breed.

Why? If they bred, they wouldn't have the "glitch", as per your definition.

134 posted on 04/06/2011 4:53:33 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: triumphant values

You seem not to be able to read, another wonderful result of our great school system. Your question should have been “Why do people pick mates based on race?”


135 posted on 04/06/2011 5:02:56 PM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: dfwgator

A classic movie that likely could not be made today. I cringe when it airs on TV because the number of edits that are often made to it; the censors even remove the fart sounds from the campfire scene!


136 posted on 04/06/2011 5:52:45 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: jerseyrocks
You seem not to be able to read, another wonderful result of our great school system. Your question should have been “Why do people pick mates based on race?”

Come closer, I'm going to whisper this so no one else hears it. Race affects appearance. Keep it under your hat. Mum's the word.

137 posted on 04/06/2011 5:57:43 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: quesney

Its way obvious to everyone that White Women is the problem right here.


138 posted on 04/06/2011 6:07:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: triumphant values
Race affects appearance.

Granted, but I can't think of a single race that doesn't include lots of women whom I find attractive.

139 posted on 04/06/2011 6:08:53 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur
No goalposts were moved in the making of this argument.

Yeah they were. You made an assertion, I countered and then you demanded an answer as to whether it was a requirement. That's a pretty textbook example.

You asserted that my reasons for not having children were inherently materialistic.

Then you went and listed a bunch of material reasons.

Why? If they bred, they wouldn't have the "glitch", as per your definition.

You're parroting a tautology back at me as a rebuttal. That doesn't bolster your point.

140 posted on 04/06/2011 6:12:27 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Abin Sur
Granted, but I can't think of a single race that doesn't include lots of women whom I find attractive.

Not that attractive as you're not willing to combine genetics with them. We'll put you down as "auxillary".

141 posted on 04/06/2011 6:16:07 PM PDT by triumphant values (Never criticize that to your right.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Good book. Italians generally did not attain “whiteness” until after WWII. There are also books by Roediger and Matthew Frye Jacobson that discuss “whiteness” with respect to Southern and Southeasterm European immigrants.


142 posted on 04/06/2011 6:22:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Niuhuru

Thank you! I couldn’t have put it better myself - 100% accurate.


143 posted on 04/06/2011 6:38:59 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

FREERIDERS....Guilty as Charged.


144 posted on 04/06/2011 6:47:31 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: dfwgator

My mother’s side is Polska-From the Kracow area. I’ve often wanted to travel there to see it and consider settling if they keep following more sane policies.


145 posted on 04/06/2011 7:01:55 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: dfwgator

Zakopane has become a Vail, horribly commercialized, from what I’ve read. Western and Eastern Karpatian Mountains look much better now. I’m thinking too.


146 posted on 04/06/2011 7:06:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: triumphant values
Not that attractive as you're not willing to combine genetics with them.

There are some types of combinations that I'm perfectly willing to engage with them :-)

Reproduction just isn't on the list...

147 posted on 04/06/2011 7:16:17 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: triumphant values
Then you went and listed a bunch of material reasons.

It's always helpful to define terms...let me see if I can understand where you're coming from. I listed as reasons for not reproducing:

I'll give you #2. #1 isn't quite as strong, but the mess children make and all the associated hassles are material in nature. #3 & #4, though...not so much.

What would you consider non-materialistic reasons for not having children?

148 posted on 04/06/2011 7:25:57 PM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Abin Sur

I disagree with your premise and hope to have kids but

It took a week to house train my puppy, yet it takes 3+ years to potty train a kid.

God or evolution (which ever you believe) really screwed that one up.


149 posted on 04/06/2011 9:27:01 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: triumphant values

“How is bringing children into this viper pit productive?
The world has always been a viper pit. In fact the one who it belongs to has long been referred to as a serpent.
Any number of people throughout the ages could have taken your stance with a lot more basis for it.
“Why would I bring any children in to this World? So they can be taken into slavery by the Mongol hoards”.
“Why would I bring any children into this world? So they can die from the Black Plague?”
“Why would I bring any children into this world? So they can be slaughtered by marauding Norsemen?”
Thankfully your and my ancestors were made of sterner stuff. This world today is a cakewalk compared to days long ago.”

Your post is nonsense.

Fully effective birth control didn’t arrive until the 1960’s with oral contraceptives.

Those “people throughout the ages” had babies whether they wanted them or not. There did not yet exist totally reliable methods to keep nature from taking its course.

Once women “gained control over their bodies”, EVERYthing changed, particularly in the West (but not necessarily limited to The West, as consider the plummeting birthrate in Japan).

It is women who have by default chosen the future of The West, by rejecting their traditional roles of mother and homekeeper. I’m not going to say that’s “wrong”, I’m simply stating that it _is_.

Look at the plunging birthrates in Europe. Those women are childless by choice.

Whether it be in the face of Mogols or the black plague, women of that time had no choice. The men had them, and they got pregnant.

Ain’t that way no mo’....


150 posted on 04/06/2011 9:58:24 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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