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Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama
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Posted on 04/07/2011 7:20:45 AM PDT by quesney

Washington (CNN) – Self-proclaimed birther Donald Trump is now so doubtful of President Obama's birthplace that he's sent a team of his own investigators to Hawaii in hopes of getting to the bottom of the issue.

That's according to Trump himself, who, in an interview with NBC, warned his investigators just might uncover "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."

"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said an interview that aired Thursday Morning.

Asked if he has assigned people specifically to search in Hawaii, Trump said, "Absolutely."

The business mogul, who in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll is tied for second place among potential presidential candidates, also suggested the president is involved in an ongoing cover-up over the matter.

"He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it?" he said. "I wish he would because if he doesn't, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in the history, period. You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts."

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KEYWORDS: april2011; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donaldtrump; hawaii; investigators; naturalborncitizen; obama; thedonald; trump; trump2012
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To: MrB

Obama was “certified” by Nancy Pelosi.
We had to elect Obama before we could find
out his background.

There is a “there” there and it’s beautiful watcing
libs, dems, MSM,try to deny it. When this “rips” remember
their names and remind them. Just sit back and watch them
as this unfolds.

deeptrout


201 posted on 04/07/2011 10:07:21 AM PDT by deep trout
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To: MrB

Doug Hagmann says it was from Obama’s lawyers to the media heads (including Fox and 3 other cable news networks, as well as radio companies) that they would be annihilated by FCC and anti-monopoly measures after the election if they allowed anybody to discuss the eligibility issue. He says the threats can be directly traced back to George Soros, David Axelrod, and Rahm Emanuel.

The media heads had meetings with their on-air personalities explaining the threat that was made and implying (according to a signed statement by one of the talk show hosts who was at the meeting) that their careers, lives, and families were all at risk if they or anybody on their shows discussed the issue.

Hagmann says he has corroborating schedules, notes, and statements by media staff and personalities to show that these meetings did take place and the threats were made.

When Hannity publicly supported Trump’s stance on the birth certificate issue, Soros responded by having Media Matters reveal to Politico’s Ben Smith their “guerilla warfare” against Fox, including an attempt to get “regulators” to act as hit-men on News Corp’s financial interests in both the US and Britain (which is outside of the reach of Darryl Issa’s House Ethics Committee investigation). That interview was reported 11 days after Hannity expressed support for the eligibility issue.

On his radio show the next few days (which is all I can see/hear since we don’t get cable), Hannity immediately called this an attempt to “intimidate” Fox personnel. And of course it is. If you intend to bring people down by guerilla warfare you need the element of surprise; you don’t announce a sneak attack. The reason they announced the plan they had already been carrying out for a while - at that particular time - was to reiterate in a very public way the same threats they had made before, that anybody who credibly reports on eligibility will have their financial interests attacked by “regulators”.

And I believe the specific mention of Britain was added because Britain is outside the reach of Issa’s investigations. Issa is hot on the trail of the FCC and whether they have been Obama’s stooges who allowed the White House to write the illegal “net neutrality” rules. On March 24th Issa wrote a letter to the FCC Chairman saying very pointedly that the “requests” of his committee are not FOIA requests that are subject to disclosure rules, but a legal investigation - and that they can investigate anything they want. Two days after Issa’s hardball response showing he would not be pushed around, the Ben Smith article voicing Media Matters’ threats to Fox was published.

IOW, in response to Issa’s investigation of whether Obama/Soros are using FCC for their own political purposes, Media Matters announced to the whole world that they were trying to use “regulators” as stooges for their own political purpose of bringing down Fox - and that they would get the job done in Britain if they couldn’t get it done under Issa’s watchful eyes in the US.


202 posted on 04/07/2011 10:08:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: laweeks
"Well, no one else would even bring up the issue . . . neither Rush, Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Coulter . . . NONE OF THEM until now, and then they kinda' refer to it briefly . . . I'm so disgusted with our conservative voices for having ignored this issue as if they've been threatened with death or something.

I hope "the Donald" has used his billions to surround himself with body guards at every step.
Oh, they brought up the issue alright...just long enough to call the birthers crazy.

The real responsibility, though, resides on our U.S. Congress...it is their responsibility to ensure his eligibility. The weenies shirked this responsibility. Some say it was because they didn't want McLame investigated too.

If it comes out that he is not a U.S. Citizen, every single member of congress has egg on their face. Every single one of them has stood back and done nothing while this great republic has been absolutely diminished and tarnished and brought to her knees.

It is truly disgusting the bunch a milquetoasts we have elected.

203 posted on 04/07/2011 10:08:21 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

LOL! Same old talking points. You don’t seem so thrilled Trump is attempting to expose to the world what conservatives already knew in ‘08 - that bambi is a fraud. Wonder what Notre Dame and Georgetown U thinks of this - since they fell for this fraud and bowed to his wishes.


204 posted on 04/07/2011 10:08:45 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: curiosity

Let me put it another way. It has been reported all over the web, thousands of times, that Barry’s granny claimed to have been present at his birth in Kenya. Why are you the ***only*** person denying it??? If it’s a known falsehood, can you produce not even *one* other reputable source debunking the ‘myth’?


205 posted on 04/07/2011 10:09:31 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrB

Obama was “certified” by Nancy Pelosi.
We had to elect Obama before we could find
out his background.

There is a “there” there and it’s beautiful watcing
libs, dems, MSM,try to deny it. When this “rips” remember
their names and remind them. Just sit back and watch them
as this unfolds.

deeptrout


206 posted on 04/07/2011 10:09:51 AM PDT by deep trout
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To: quesney

My thought is Trump is an intentional opposing plant—he comes back later and claims he couldn’t find anything and thus ObaMao is legit. Or they threaten him and he just fades away.


207 posted on 04/07/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Yaelle
No girlfriends. The poor boy Barack was raped by that pedophile frank (pops) and from then on seems to have been more with men.

Which is practiced and frowned upon at the same time, by Islam.

Maybe they are more worried about the "gay" coming out than the NBC issue.

208 posted on 04/07/2011 10:11:23 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: quesney

He doesn’t have to “send” anyone to HI. Leave it to CNN to employ’ inside the box’ thinking. Trump owns a large hotel/resort complex in Waikiki already, and would know how to find local people to get the job done.

Why would anyone think outsiders would do the job? I’d use resources already on the ground and I’m nowhere near as smart/shrewd as Trump. I’d wager investigators were dispatched before the media heard the first word out of The Donald on this issue. As he says, he’s ‘a smart guy.’


209 posted on 04/07/2011 10:12:02 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Red Steel
If that guy is a gay prostitute. There’s no doubt that Obama is the first gay pResident.

This is just another "confirmation."

I would say he IS the first one to attain the high combined rank of 0h0m0llah in the Moslem "Uma!"

He also has a combined rating of what Moslems call:

Pitcher = Pedophile

Catcher = Faggot

210 posted on 04/07/2011 10:12:58 AM PDT by melancholy (.Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: curiosity
So what's my "documentation" that Obama's grandma never said he was born in Kenya? Simple. The fact that birthers have never provided documentation that she did in fact say it.

Not true. The interview in which Sarah Obama claimed to have witnessed Barack's birth in Kenya was linked to, and extensively discussed on FR in late 2008 - early 2009.

The only valid question that has arisen out of that interview, is, which Barack was she referring to? Senior, or Junior?

211 posted on 04/07/2011 10:13:54 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nikos1121
he is NOT a natural born citizen with our without the BC since his father was not a citizen here.

Spot on! And that was known for years - and the simple, even here, don't get that!
212 posted on 04/07/2011 10:15:01 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Pollster1

I’d settle for frog march with Barry the Bastard’s czars in the lead and Eric ‘the kneepad lefty’ Holder close in line. It’s just too bad the two subPreme Court appointees can’t be erased, too!


213 posted on 04/07/2011 10:15:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: curiosity

Try this one. It’s been reported all over the net and elsewhere that Barry’s granny said she was present at his birth in Kenya. How do you (alone, it appears) know, with the certitude you expressed yesterday, and beyond the shadow of a doubt, that ALL these reports are false??? Surely you have at least one rock solid source discrediting this ‘myth’...right???


214 posted on 04/07/2011 10:15:19 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: truthkeeper

I’m actually surprised Trump is being allowed in front of the camera on any network to talk about this.

Seriously.


215 posted on 04/07/2011 10:15:45 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama is probably a Muslim and is DEFINITELY a Marxist!)
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To: MHGinTN

I’d say that, if Obama was never authorized to hold the position that he has usurped, the Wise Latina and Kagan are not really on the Court either, and any rulings that were determined by their votes are also null. This could be the best thing in our country’s history if we can erase all the non-fiscal damage done by the Chicago communist.


216 posted on 04/07/2011 10:19:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: mojito; LucyT
I just wish Donald Trump would stop calling Obama's a Certificate of Birth (that is what a real one is called). Obama's was called a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth.

If I am not mistaken certification means the process one goes through to get certified and then one is issued a CERTIFICATE. Also if I am not mistaken the HDOH guy who signed that CERTIFICATION resigned being the director (or whatever he was) from the HDOH some time back. He was part of the scam.

217 posted on 04/07/2011 10:21:10 AM PDT by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: walterandrews

I disagree with your assessment that the risk of 0bama producing a long form BC is too great. At this point if 0bama trots out his long form BC, and it is legitimate, people are going to be irate that he toyed with the constitution and so many Americans for his own political gain. That strategy will backfire. Plus we want all of his hidden documents, not just the long form BC.


218 posted on 04/07/2011 10:23:04 AM PDT by cameraman
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To: quesney

Trump strikes me as another Perot/McLame/Huckleberry/Romney who’s main purpose is to draw votes away from whoever is the Republican front runner may be in 012.
RINO.


219 posted on 04/07/2011 10:24:51 AM PDT by Leep
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To: butterdezillion

Don’t know if you saw it yet, but Miki Booth has posted a copy of a long-form birth certificate (her child’s I presume) at her Facebook page. It contains a March 15, 2011 datestamp and is signed by Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. Can’t tell if it has the raised seal, but by most accounts, this refutes the faither lie about the state of Hawaii not issuing long form birth certificates.


220 posted on 04/07/2011 10:25:40 AM PDT by edge919
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To: curiosity

When and how did you first learn that widespread reports of Barry’s granny claiming to be present at his birth (in Kenya) were false? Who told you it was a lie?

Or did you just ‘know in your bones’ the granny never said this? Did you need no source to debunk the ‘myth’ because you have innate knowledge/telepathy/sixth sense awareness of what is true and what is false?

I’m not asking anything unreasonable. If the widely spread (to make an understatement) reports of Barry’s granny’s claims are false, ***somebody*** other than curiosity ought to be reporting and/or refuting it.

[Case in point. I personally have seen hundreds of refutations of the claim that Americans were not allowed to travel to Pockistan during the time Barry visited the country. Why no similar deluge of refutations of granny’s quotes???]


221 posted on 04/07/2011 10:26:03 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: reasonisfaith

Trump is a liberal, Hillary-loving, narcissistic phony

And documented bi-polar to boot


222 posted on 04/07/2011 10:26:31 AM PDT by Help!
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To: DAC21

At this point what matters most is that there be standing for a legal challenge, which would allow discovery of not only the records but of the embedded transaction logs and complete vital records history which would reveal if the records have been manipulated.

If a person could get discovery of that - particularly if there was somebody like Trump who would be willing to make it known very publicly - and if the proof was also sent directly to Congress-critters, SOS’s, etc, then those people could be in danger of misprision of felony and/or treason charges if they fail to protect the US Constitution.

IMHO, the big thing we need to do is to pass legislation or ballot initiatives specifically giving legal standing to any registered voter to challenge in state court the eligibility of any candidate placed on the state ballot. Because that would allow legal discovery that would impact the entire nation, it wouldn’t matter how large or small the state was.

That is what we can be doing. There’s actually a danger in the Trump exposure of this issue, which somebody else alluded to. And that is that Obama could produce a fake and Trump would not have the legal permission to get the records that prove it is a fake.

If he’s going after the financial records or other ways of proving that Obama was not born in a Hawaii hospital, there could always be the claim that the records were lost, etc. It is important that we be able to get at the actual proof of whether or not the birth and citizenship records have been manipulated. And that requires legal standing.

So far even opposing presidential candidates have been denied legal standing, so we can’t count on judges giving a right ruling. It has to be a law that specifically gives legal standing.

Those of us who love what Trump is doing should pitch in what we can to allow him (or somebody else) to actually finish the job. He’s like the QB who has put the ball in the air, but we need to make sure that there’s somebody in the end zone to catch it, or else it won’t matter that he was willing and able to get the ball in the air. He can raise the public awareness and do investigation to a certain point, but the defense Obama can use to derail it all is a fake that Trump doesn’t have access to prove as a fake. He can bat the ball away just by doing that.

But we can take measures to make sure that fake documentation would be discovered within a legal setting. We can do that by pushing our legislatures (if they allow new bills to be introduced at any time) or by pushing a ballot initiative the would give legal standing to any registered voter to challenge in court the legal eligibility of candidates on the ballot.


223 posted on 04/07/2011 10:28:16 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Pollster1

The Senate sent these two commie/socialist ‘judges’ to the subPreme Court, even though Barry put them up for approval. These scum stink up the court because the Democrap Seante put them there, therefore they are not subject to recall if Barry the Bastard is exposed as the criminal, degenerate vermin he is.


224 posted on 04/07/2011 10:29:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: butterdezillion

Not sure if this has been mentioned on this thread, as I have not had time to read all the posts, but I think one of the biggie problems of releasing even a good “Long Form” forgery would be the fact that in order do legitimize the COLB, the race of father would have to say “African”. Everyone at that time would know that both documents were a fraud, as that term was never used to describe race on a BC (at least not in the 60’s). Must be many heads spinning about now. :-)


225 posted on 04/07/2011 10:29:53 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: nascarnation

Any state Barrack has a legitimate shot at winning in 012 would pass this type of legislation. So I don’t see it as effective at all.

It would be effective in that it would then be reported that Obama would not appear on the ballots of X states due to inability to produce satisfactory documentation of birth. Talk about heightening the controversy


226 posted on 04/07/2011 10:33:43 AM PDT by Help!
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To: quesney

Had one of the other “contenders”, say Pawlenty, taken this position first, they could even be leading Romney, who I still think would get the nomination, considering the hesitancy of Republican primary voters in the early states.


227 posted on 04/07/2011 10:36:13 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: presently no screen name; Labyrinthos
You don’t seem so thrilled Trump is attempting to expose to the world what conservatives already knew in ‘08 - that bambi is a fraud.

"The world" has known Obama was a fraud all along. Trump didn't just stumble upon this, and the MSM isn't airing it just now because Trump is the one saying it. Its been Hillary's "trump" card all along. She's just been waiting for the right time to play it. And Trump is playing her trump card as only a casino owner could, with consummate timing. For Hillary's 2012 campaign.

228 posted on 04/07/2011 10:37:25 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: MichaelCorleone

bOOKbUMP


229 posted on 04/07/2011 10:37:41 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Pure Country
Paraphrase of your words" Where is it coming from that Natural Born Citizen, means two citizen parents?

It is coming from history. Apparently you have missed the threads on this. Here is one of them.

Natural Born Citizen

Then go to keyword and put in naturalborncitizen for more articles.

230 posted on 04/07/2011 10:40:39 AM PDT by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: Pure Country
"Why did Mccain get vetted and not Obama as per birth certificate?"

It was the left who publicly started questioning McCains birth in order to keep the focus on McCain instead of Obama on this issue.

231 posted on 04/07/2011 10:44:32 AM PDT by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: opentalk
.....the COLB has no serial number or signature."

They later came out with one showing the number.

232 posted on 04/07/2011 10:47:12 AM PDT by Spunky (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.)
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To: quesney

All this makes me wonder if the Dems are trying their best to have the gov’t shut down so they can all get together and figure out how they are gonna worm their way out of the consequences when this all blows up and everything that’s been kept hidden about O is finally out in the open.


233 posted on 04/07/2011 10:50:23 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Gender Traditionalist)
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To: curiosity

Okay; I’m convinced. It’s so obvious, now that I’ve thought about it. Of course Barry’s granny would have denied the quotes. As soon as it began to be widely reported that she said he was born in Kenya, if she hadn’t said it, she’d have disavowed the quotes.

It’s so obvious.

Oh, wait. She *didn’t* disavow saying that? She never corrected the record?

Hmm. She must have really said it, then.

Okay.

Unless, of course, you’re willing to share with me how you can be so certain she never claimed (as has been *widely* reported) to be present at Barry’s birth. I really am curious as to the source of your insider knowledge.


234 posted on 04/07/2011 11:08:16 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Chance Hart; Beckwith

Good point. What they would probably say is that the parents’ race on the long-form was self-reported, taken down verbatim from the parents, and that when the information from the long-form was entered into the database (when the system converted to electronic) it was typed in verbatim rather than transcribed as a code that the software would translate into the “Black” notation on the COLB.

Could be important to document that the software requires a code to be entered - if that can be documented.

Another problem they would have is what to come up with that would be “embarrassing” for Obama to disclose.


235 posted on 04/07/2011 11:11:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Spunky

True. but I really believe McCain wasn’t eligible either. He was born at the public hospital in Colon about a mile from the PCZ even if that mattered.


236 posted on 04/07/2011 11:12:18 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: MrB
"I’m sure the Donald never asks a question he doesn’t know the answer to."

I would agree. I would be very surprised if Donald went into this without already knowing.

237 posted on 04/07/2011 11:16:47 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: MHGinTN
The Senate sent these two commie/socialist ‘judges’ to the subPreme Court, even though Barry put them up for approval. These scum stink up the court because the Democrap Seante put them there, therefore they are not subject to recall if Barry the Bastard is exposed as the criminal, degenerate vermin he is.

I'm not convinced that's true. The Senate can't put anyone on the Supreme Court without a presidential nomination. If the communist loser in our White House is just a former US Senator, there was no presidential nomination, and the Senate's action is invalid.

238 posted on 04/07/2011 11:16:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: melancholy
I still say, when it's all said and done, he isn’t running, especially with the addition of all these hits that keep coming!

Oh, how I hope you're right. Listening to our local talk radio this morning (KFYI) the host, Barry Young (who used to ridicule *birthers*) had a little change in his attitude. He played a bit of Trump's interview and agreed that there is a difference between a BC and a CERTIFICATION Of Live Birth. Trump has the platform and he's using it well.

239 posted on 04/07/2011 11:19:20 AM PDT by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Oh please, hillary’s anything! Like she’s the only one who knew this. It’s not rocket science but it goes to show she submitted to obama’s lie and too afraid to go against it in 2008. She sold out the USA for whose benefit - her’s or the USA? That’s not rocket science either.

Trump has more to lose than win with this. He’s a businessman.


240 posted on 04/07/2011 11:38:18 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: edge919

Yes, I did see that, although I didn’t realize that was whose it was. Yes, that triply confirms that they issue them, in addition to the video of the woman ordering one at the HDOH office and being told she’d get it in a couple weeks AND Danae’s.

I’m sure the media will correct their statements and ridicule of “birthers” on that particular question in 5, 4, 3, 2.....

I noticed that the validating date stamp and Onaka’s signature stamp are on the FACE of the birth certificate, not on the back as on Obama’s Factcheck COLB.

And it’s interesting that we can’t see a seal on it. Seems like the HDOH may be trying to hide what their seal looks like...

I requested copies of some UIPA requests and responses from 2009, certified for submission as evidence in a US and Hawaii court of law. Within a couple of days of receiving my request via the hdohinfo e-mail address the HDOH got rid of that e-mail address. Went to a web form. So I resubmitted the request via web form. They’ve ignored both requests, the first of which I sent almost 2 months ago, and the web form less than a week after I sent the e-mail.

I’ve appealed to the OIP for help and they tried to put me off the trail by waiting until the last of their 10 days to respond, and then saying that e-mailed UIPA requests are erased after a month. I told them I had already been around the block on that particular obfuscation and know that the UIPA requests and responses are photocopied and filed under the requestor’s name, which is why I specifically asked for paper copies of them before the requests are destroyed because their 2-year retention period has expired.

That was Monday that I responded to them and I haven’t heard anything back. They won’t even say that they will help me. Just like another request that I actually snail-mailed to the HDOH and they won’t respond to - just for copies of specific birth index pages.

So anyway. Seems like they’re trying to crawl into the woordwork. I told the OIP that if I didn’t get what I had requested in timely fashion I would report everybody to the Ombudsman - not that he/she would do anything but that it would give me evidence to post on my blog regarding the way things are run in HI.

And I said that if the UIPA requests and responses I asked for are destroyed before I can get copies because of the obfuscation of the HDOH and OIP, I will press to have them charged with obstruction of justice for the destruction of records they knew were for a potential lawsuit, which is a felony.

I’m tired of playing nice. These people are not being paid to be racketeers, and somehow they need to be held accountable for the fact that that’s what they are. Issa is on the trail of DHS for the same kind of crap, but what’s he ultimately going to do? Unless he starts throwing people in jail the whole rule of law is just a vain threat that these people don’t even PRETEND to fear any more.


241 posted on 04/07/2011 11:38:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: laweeks

“Well, no one else would even bring up the issue . . . neither Rush, Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Coulter . . . NONE OF THEM until now, and then they kinda’ refer to it briefly . . . I’m so disgusted with our conservative voices for having ignored this issue as if they’ve been threatened with death or something.”

I am NOT a believer in large conspiracies but I am at a loss to explain the behavior of the conservative talkers and politicians.

McCain should have brought it up during the election. It should have been raised and pushed. He could have won.


242 posted on 04/07/2011 11:39:35 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: laweeks

“Well, no one else would even bring up the issue . . . neither Rush, Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Coulter . . . NONE OF THEM until now, and then they kinda’ refer to it briefly . . . I’m so disgusted with our conservative voices for having ignored this issue as if they’ve been threatened with death or something.”

I am NOT a believer in large conspiracies but I am at a loss to explain the behavior of the conservative talkers and politicians.

McCain should have brought it up during the election. It should have been raised and pushed. He could have won.


243 posted on 04/07/2011 11:39:56 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: WKUHilltopper
My thought is Trump is an intentional opposing plant—he comes back later and claims he couldn't’t find anything and thus ObaMao is legit. Or they threaten him and he just fades away

........................... I can't rule this out either, but short of a legitimate Long Form BC being presented, I won't buy anything Trump is selling.

244 posted on 04/07/2011 11:49:21 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Chance Hart; butterdezillion; edge919

Edge919 pointed out above that Miki Booth has posted a copy of a long-form birth certificate at her Facebook page.

She even makes a comment on this photo that religion is not on the form.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1648483537324&set=a.1086340484099.2013840.1394022018&ref=nf


245 posted on 04/07/2011 11:53:12 AM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: MrB

RE: “I’m sure the Donald never asks a question he doesn’t know the answer to.”

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The Donald may be a lot of things but stupid isn’t one of them. Agree that Donald already has his info, whatever it is. Born in US or not, there is something out there on Obama that needs to be revealed and I’m betting it’s stunning.


246 posted on 04/07/2011 12:01:46 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Pollster1

RE: “Imagine an America in which every bill signed by Obama, every nomination, and every “presidential” order from the usurper was repealed. America as a free, capitalist country - life would be glorious!”

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Yes, revealing the greatest fraud perpetrated against the country would require that everything transpiring since Jan. ‘09 be repealed. Wouldn’t that be nice!


247 posted on 04/07/2011 12:05:33 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: All

??? President Joseph Nimrod Biden ???


248 posted on 04/07/2011 12:05:57 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

RE: “Hillary is already on the case.”

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Agree there may be something to that — her supporters have never stopped kvetching about this entire issue but Zero probably had enough dirt on her and on Bill to shut them up.

The timing of all this interests me — first we hear from Hillary a week or so ago that she will definitely not continue as Sec of State in any second Obama term, nor will she run for any office. Hmmm. Clearing the way for Trump to pipe up with this questioning.

I think Trump and Clintons are in cahoots to some degree and Trump has no real intention of running for office — rather will continue unveiling any Obama fraud and paving the way for a Hillary ‘run’ in ‘12 after all.


249 posted on 04/07/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: CaliforniaCon
I think Trump and Clintons are in cahoots to some degree and Trump has no real intention of running for office — rather will continue unveiling any Obama fraud and paving the way for a Hillary ‘run’ in ‘12 after all.

Of course, everything is just speculation on our part, but...

There's an outside chance that Trump is such a megalomaniac that he honestly thinks the political system would permit him to come away with the GOP primary, but that ain't gonna happen.

Simplest explanation is also the most likely. He's always been in Hillary's camp, and the rumors about Obama's eligibility have always emanated from Hillary's camp, and this time is just more of the same.

Its an outside possibility that Hillary would let Trump be her VP as a "cross-party" ticket.

250 posted on 04/07/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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