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Shutdown Shocker: Unemployment Benefits for All (Furloughed govt workers!)
Fox Business ^

Posted on 04/07/2011 3:12:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

In the event of a government shutdown, some 800,000 federal employees who are furloughed without pay may collect unemployment insurance.

Government workers are covered under the Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees Program, which is funded by the federal government, but administered by the states.

Generally, unemployment claims are filed in the place where you work, not where you live. The states are reimbursed by the federal government for the funds they pay out.

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KEYWORDS: unemployment
These dems have chutzpah!
1 posted on 04/07/2011 3:12:16 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

But they’ll veto a bill to pay the military.

Boehner better not give up the policy riders in the face of this.


2 posted on 04/07/2011 3:13:43 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Great, first time unemployment claims skyrocket and the secret on the economy is out, there is no recovery.


3 posted on 04/07/2011 3:14:25 PM PDT by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I believe the government holds the first check, and pays it out the last week you are laid off. If you are laid off for one week, I don’t think you receive an unemployment check, unless something changed.


4 posted on 04/07/2011 3:20:12 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Red in Blue PA

I would expect them to get unemployment, the same as any other laid off worker that paid into the system.

They will have to pay back any unemployment benefits, if congress gives them back pay.


5 posted on 04/07/2011 3:23:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hah! It takes 6-8 weeks to get your first check anyway. Not that gov’t workers would be aware of that since they basically have union jobs (non fire’able)


6 posted on 04/07/2011 3:27:06 PM PDT by atc23
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To: Red in Blue PA
Yeah, it's all their fault....The Republicans on the other hand are honorable conservatives that fight the good fight for the U.S.A!

gag...

7 posted on 04/07/2011 3:29:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DannyTN
I would expect them to get unemployment, the same as any other laid off worker that paid into the system.

Private sector American is on their knees with the weight of millions of government employees clinging to their backs, refusing to let go...But we must be fair to the government employees!

8 posted on 04/07/2011 3:36:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Private sector American is on their knees with the weight of millions of government employees clinging to their backs, refusing to let go...But we must be fair to the government employees!

Actually unemployment is standard practice for furloughed employees in the private sector. Plus, and it's a big plus, if you get unemployment you can't get back pay which will save a ton of money and give government employees a taste of the real world.

9 posted on 04/07/2011 3:42:14 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
furloughed employees in the private sector

Furloughed private sector employees?

Ya mean it was all tenporary?? All the *millions* that were down sized in the real non-government world and lost their jobs, homes, investments and businesses are are getting their jobs and businesses back?

(((Is he joking?)))

10 posted on 04/07/2011 3:50:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Nancy already said it’s the greatest stimulus we could have.


11 posted on 04/07/2011 3:53:03 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: dragnet2

Yes, we should be fair to federal employees. Some Federal employees can join unions, but they are toothless as they cannot bargain over wages, hours, conditions of employment, benefits. They are not in the same position as state and local employees. If a federal employee is laid off, he or she should get unemployment compensation under the same conditions as employees in the private sector.


12 posted on 04/07/2011 4:52:41 PM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: Red in Blue PA

Words cannot express the level of disgust I have for the EmoRats.


13 posted on 04/07/2011 5:07:02 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW2 now?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You gotta hear from the self employed. WE GET AND GOT NOTHING when the work stopped. Obama’s policies have TARGETed the shutdown of small businesses and we never got ONE WEEK of unemployment.

I have no hair to pull out anymore.


14 posted on 04/07/2011 6:02:37 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Red in Blue PA

OK, they collect unemployment. Would they collect back pay after the furlough ends, also?


15 posted on 04/07/2011 6:06:25 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Red in Blue PA

Money for nothing.
Chicks for Free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag


16 posted on 04/07/2011 6:22:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If someone is laid off temporarily without pay, they get unemployment. That’s what is happening to most Federal employees next week. Private sector or public sector, that is what happens.

Why is their receiving unemployment benefits a shocker?


17 posted on 04/07/2011 6:27:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Repudiate the national debt)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“OK, they collect unemployment. Would they collect back pay after the furlough ends, also?”

Probably not. That’s what has happened in the past, but probably not this time. If they do get back pay, they have to repay the unemployment benefits they received. Same way it works with private sector workers.


18 posted on 04/07/2011 6:30:15 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Repudiate the national debt)
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To: dragnet2

Contractors who work for private companies on federal contracts (such as myself) are unable to work during the shutdown...


19 posted on 04/07/2011 7:16:05 PM PDT by craig_eddy (Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thats OK, let the unionized public workers take home $190 per week for a while...

so that they will appreciate their jobs more after their $89K salary and benefits gets reduced to $86K


20 posted on 04/07/2011 7:36:12 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: DannyTN

“They will have to pay back any unemployment benefits, if congress gives them back pay.”

Congress WILL give them back pay, for their VACATION! But I bet dollars to donuts they will NEVER collect the unemployment pay back!


21 posted on 04/07/2011 8:22:53 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: rcofdayton

Those poor federal employees... They should raise our taxes more so those poor government employees can get pay raises.


22 posted on 04/07/2011 8:25:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Just as long as they don’t give retroactive pay like they did the last time!


23 posted on 04/07/2011 8:28:22 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Red in Blue PA

If we’re paying them anyway, let them work.

No more of this paid vacation stuff.


24 posted on 04/07/2011 8:45:22 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Are the troops covered by unemployment, too?

------- Or do they not get paid because they show up to work??????

25 posted on 04/07/2011 8:46:24 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama channeling TR: "Speak incessantly and carry a little schtick.")
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To: dalereed

I’m a federal employee and out of love for my country, I won’t collect unemployment. I’ll suck it up.


26 posted on 04/07/2011 8:46:59 PM PDT by 44magnum
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To: dalereed

I’m a federal employee and out of love for my country, I won’t collect unemployment. I’ll suck it up.


27 posted on 04/07/2011 8:47:06 PM PDT by 44magnum
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To: Red in Blue PA

If I were the governor, those claims would get processed reallllll slow.


28 posted on 04/07/2011 9:35:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 44magnum

I’m not against them getting unemployment.

Getting retroactive pay is a full paid vacation.


29 posted on 04/07/2011 9:36:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Red in Blue PA

That will cost the workers a lot of money. But they will get back pay anyway so I doubt anyone will file.


30 posted on 04/07/2011 10:38:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: dragnet2

Employee compensation is a small part of the federal budget.


31 posted on 04/07/2011 10:39:52 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: craig_eddy

Maybe you should consider working for companies who are not associated with corrupt mismanaged entities...Maybe that way you can get paid.


32 posted on 04/07/2011 10:39:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: arrogantsob
Employee compensation is a small part of the federal budget.

Oh sure...With a government that blows, mismanages and steals multiple trillions of tax payer dollars, I guess paying several million bloated bureaucrats is just peanuts.

33 posted on 04/07/2011 10:43:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Furloughed private sector employees?

Everyone where I work, including myself, got furloughed for a week last year. They staggered it so the place would keep running.

(((Is he joking?)))

Are you smoking something?

34 posted on 04/07/2011 11:05:15 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

No, get a TV and watch the news...

Most of the tens of millions of private sector employees who were eliminated aren’t coming, back and their jobs and careers completely ended...There was no furlough for them..

We’re there a few exceptions? Obviously, but they were clearly the exception..

I have to tell you this?


35 posted on 04/07/2011 11:13:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"In the event of a government shutdown, some 800,000 federal employees who are furloughed without pay may collect unemployment insurance. Government workers are covered under the Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees Program, which is funded by the federal government, but administered by the states."

"Generally, unemployment claims are filed in the place where you work, not where you live. The states are reimbursed by the federal government for the funds they pay out."

And how many weeks will they get on our dime? The arguement now from the Libs is the same ole story about seniors eating dog-food or starving, children starving, and increased homelessness (oops, sorry, they haven't hit that one yet - give them time).

SHUT THE DAMN SYSTEM DOWN FOR A MONTH AND SEE IF ANYONE NOTICES! AS LONG AS THEY PAY OUR MILITARY AND DISTRIBUTE SS CHECKS, I BET NO ONE CARES OTHER THAN THE PARASITE WELFARE GIMMES.

I DOUBT EVEN THE SOCCOR-MOMS WILL NOTICE OR CARE. JUST STOP FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND LET'S SEE WHO OR WHAT IS ESSENTIAL.

LET'S DO IT, AND TAKE NOTE OF WHAT WAS TRULY ESSENTIAL TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY OPERATE! THEN PUT IT OUT THEIR IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS FOR ALL TO SEE!

I WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN!

36 posted on 04/08/2011 1:26:29 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: Mouton
"Great, first time unemployment claims skyrocket and the secret on the economy is out, there is no recovery."

Between your stats; the falling dollar; the moribund real estate market; the weak consumer confidence; the Fed printing money, I firmly believe we are heading to a second "dip" recession within this year.

While I suspected a "double dip", it didn't happen in 2010. So I didn't benefit from the increase in the market in 2010. Still, with the above, and the little I know about macro-economics, all trends are leading to a "double dip" recession, not to mention the world-wide conflagration.

So what's the best economic directions to take for your future? Well, I made out after the 08 crash by just throwing darts at good companies and almost got back up to where I was before the 08 crash. Unless, we crash again, which is a likelihood, than I'm still in cash. Still, I'm thinking about companies with growth potential and high dividends (5% or more) for now.

Do your homework and you can probably average a 5% yield until the market crashes from the next bubble, which is commodities. I'm actually thinking about shorting Gold/Silver, but not agriculture commodities - the world is growing and will need food supplies. I made a fortune in fertilizer.

Last thought: Don't follow trends - you will be always late to the party. "Buy on fear; sell on confidence". It works if you do your homework. I wouldn't buy Apple if some just gave me the money. Again, too late to the party. But it is time to buy consumer staples and energy, with exception of Chesapeake Bay. Think either large integrated companies like Exxon or smaller like Range Resources, Inc (RRC). I've already experienced 20% profit. Then again, if we go into a double-dip recession, any good wide moat company can make you a profit. Yeah, I know. I'm timing the market. It worked well for me in 2009, and with the double-dip that is coming from all above, it can work well for you.

37 posted on 04/08/2011 2:32:08 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If the government is shut down, the unemployment offices may be closed. Many of the workers on the state side of that program are paid by *federal* funds. (I once worked for a state unemployement insurance program.)


38 posted on 04/08/2011 7:42:19 AM PDT by spaced
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m fine with them receiving Unemployment.

They better not be made whole with regular paychecks upon their return.

Their checks need to reflect the difference between their unemployment checks and their regular checks.

I’ll bet they just get their regular checks and then they justify it by saying “Well, we didn’t get free money. We still have to pay taxes on it”.

That’s what will happen.


39 posted on 04/08/2011 7:46:29 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: dragnet2
Most of the tens of millions of private sector employees who were eliminated aren’t coming, back and their jobs and careers completely ended...There was no furlough for them..

What's that got to do with people who were furloughed and whether or not it's normal for them to collect unemployment?

I have to tell you this?

You obviously know how to read but you may want to brush up on the comprehension bit.

40 posted on 04/08/2011 8:18:01 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: A Navy Vet
LET'S DO IT, AND TAKE NOTE OF WHAT WAS TRULY ESSENTIAL TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY OPERATE! THEN PUT IT OUT THEIR IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS FOR ALL TO SEE!

Agreed.

We know at least 100,000 are unessential - the number 'bummer has added to the payrolls.

if we didn't need them before 'bummer, we don't need hem now.

Besides, if all we're laying off is 'nonessential - then indeed, let's weed them out.

It's fast approaching "Atlas Shrugged" time where for every private worker, there's at least one gov't worker and/or welfare/slacker on the dole.

We cannot sustain. Especially when tens of thousands of the real workers have been put out of their previous jobs and are now underemployed and must work even more hours to survive. And they don't get free medical/dental/food stamps, etc.

How long before they give up and head for the hills?

41 posted on 04/08/2011 12:56:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: Red in Blue PA; mickie; flaglady47; seekthetruth; seenenuf
My burning question is "If a shutdown occurs will the TOTUS be furloughed as a non-essential employee?"

So far, no comment from the TOTUS.

Leni

42 posted on 04/08/2011 1:00:32 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Obama....you'll have to pry all my incandescent lightbulbs from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: paulycy; MestaMachine; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...

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Ping.

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. . . . Our elected officials will continue drawing a paycheck.

Pay the Troops FIRST.

DoD Issues Shutdown Rules

With a government shutdown looming, military members and families have anxiously waited for some official word if they would see a paycheck come the 15th of April.

On Thursday, DoD finally announced its shutdown contingency plan for April 9.

The plan confirms that servicemembers and “excepted” civilian personnel will be required to report for duty, but there will be no funds to pay them until the shutdown is ended.

While visiting troops at Camp Liberty (Baghdad, Iraq), Defense Secretary Robert Gates emphasize that

service members eventually will receive their pay if the government shuts down;

however, their mid-month paychecks will include only the pay they earned for the first week of the month – before the shutdown.

“Over time, they won’t lose anything,” the secretary told reporters after the visit. “But you all know as well as I do that a lot of these young troops live pretty much paycheck to paycheck, and when I start to think about the inconvenience that it’s going to cause these kids and a lot of their families, even half a paycheck delayed can be a problem for them...So I hope they work this whole thing out.”

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43 posted on 04/08/2011 4:59:52 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

“Pay the Troops FIRST.” !!!

Did you see this? What hubris and contempt so many, many of these fascists have for the citizenry who dare hold them to account.

WATCH: Rep. Jim Moran Gets Testy With [disabled] Veteran [of 27 yrs] at Town Hall: Sit Down or Leave

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2701617/posts


44 posted on 04/08/2011 5:49:46 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Red in Blue PA
WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only way federal employees will get unemployment is if they don't report to work on Monday to sign their furlough letters. If that happens they will be AWOL and it will be a black mark on their record. They know that.

If they report to work on Monday, and if they have to sign furlough papers, then they won't be able to sign up for unemployment compensation until the following week, which by that time a deal will most likely be reached.

Someone in the news needs to get their stories straight and stop branding government workers, a group I belong to, as greedy selfish people. This misinformation is really ticking me off.

45 posted on 04/08/2011 6:27:57 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: thouworm

what do you expect from a draft dodger?


46 posted on 04/08/2011 7:17:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This is just about right. Let the furloughed government workers collect unemployment while letting the very people who are actively defending the country go without. What is wrong with this picture?


47 posted on 04/08/2011 7:44:36 PM PDT by reader25
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Plus, and it's a big plus, if you get unemployment you can't get back pay which will save a ton of money and give government employees a taste of the real world.

Since the Federal Program appears to be different from the State programs, I have to ask if we are paying (yes, we, if the FedGov picks up the tab) 'benefits'that are 'awarded' at a rate above the normal rate of unemployment compensation by the States.

In this era of sweetheart deals for Gmmmint workers, it would not surprise me if the Government Employees' unions have somewhere been able to whip up a deal where their members end up with unemployment bennies closer to full pay than the average schmuck, too.

48 posted on 04/09/2011 1:36:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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