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Wisconsin (Supreme) court race won't be certified without vote probe
Reuters - Chicago ^ | 4.8.11 | James B. Kelleher

Posted on 04/08/2011 12:37:45 PM PDT by rface

The agency overseeing Wisconsin elections will not certify results of Tuesday's state Supreme Court race until it concludes a probe into how a county clerk misplaced and then found some 14,000 votes that upended the contest.

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"It's not that we necessarily expect to find anything criminal. But we want to make sure the public has confidence in the results,"

Unofficial returns in the statewide race had given the challenger, JoAnne Kloppenburg, a narrow 204 vote statewide lead over David Prosser, a former Republican legislator.

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Friday, Kloppenburg said her campaign had filed an open records requests "for all relevant documentation related to the reporting of election results in Waukesha County, as well as to the discovery and reporting of the errors announced by the County."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: wisconsinshowdown
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To: farmguy
Ballots were originally not counted, the discrepancy was found, and the count was corrected.

They were counted, just not in the numbers reported to the AP.

41 posted on 04/08/2011 1:14:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (OBAMA & his DEMOCRAT allies are starving children & killing the elderly.)
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To: outofsalt

Good point. :)


42 posted on 04/08/2011 1:15:09 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 to be the year of ME!)
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To: RedStateRocker

There were two stories about the crook named Lyndon Johnson that the press never covered but I always found somewhat “curious”. First, just how did he become a multimillionaire on a maximum Senate yearly salary of $ 35,000? Second, historian Robert Caro related the news of Lyndon’s first stolen Senate election where he narrowly “defeated” Governor Coke Stevenson in the primary; Stevenson was up 74 votes or so and the county clerk “found” a ballot box with 83 paper ballots that had been uncounted and gee whiz, all 83 were marked for Lyndon Johnson. “Landslide Lyndon” the politicos called him after that; “Crooked as a Texas rattler” was my name for LBJ.


43 posted on 04/08/2011 1:19:41 PM PDT by laconic
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44 posted on 04/08/2011 1:20:10 PM PDT by rface
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To: Safrguns

I see comments all over FR on this, but I’ve seen no other information. Please elaborate.


45 posted on 04/08/2011 1:21:36 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism in nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: cripplecreek
Part of our problem in America is that we tiptoe around in an attempt to prevent others from behaving badly when we should be doing what needs to be done and harshly punishing those who behave badly.

Damn straight!

46 posted on 04/08/2011 1:24:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: antiRepublicrat

Maybe because she doesn’t trust the liberals not to screw around with a common database, so she feels more in control if she keeps it on an individual computer?


47 posted on 04/08/2011 1:31:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: antiRepublicrat

Having worked in state government before (not WI), it is easy to imagine some of the state workers having a bumper sticker which reads:

‘You can have my Access database when you can pry it out of my cold dead hands.’


48 posted on 04/08/2011 1:34:34 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: newzjunkey

I should have said that these votes were not included in the final count.

The point I was trying make was that saying the republican won by anything other than a straight up honest election plays into the dim’s hand. Implying they lost by other means just gives them ammunition to continue working to steal this and/or future elections.


49 posted on 04/08/2011 1:43:18 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: American Quilter

I fully expect a liberal judge to declare that the votes don’t count because they weren’t reported in the initial count. There may not be a legal basis for the decision, but when has that ever stopped them?


50 posted on 04/08/2011 1:46:11 PM PDT by sixgunjer
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To: rface

Why r u posting this pic? I am not sure what she has to do with the Wisco election?


51 posted on 04/08/2011 1:47:27 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

I think there were at least 2 threads on this election night... here’s one of them:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2700832/posts


52 posted on 04/08/2011 1:55:57 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

... and here’s the one I remember reading:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2700649/posts


53 posted on 04/08/2011 1:57:39 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: antiRepublicrat

“the big question is why in this day and age is a manual process using Access and Excel being used to count votes?”

Because the process doesn’t matter as long as it works for those in power. When things start to go against them, there is an outcry to “improve” the process. I often think about this when I see senior election officials sitting at the tables on election day, going thru their routine. The whole process seems very loose-y goose-y. We need a photo id for voting, with armed guards at the polling places to enforce it. The stakes are high. Why else do people spend millions of dollars to win elected office? In the “good old days”, voting machines could have votes already loaded before the polls even opened....


54 posted on 04/08/2011 2:02:37 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Safrguns
Are they also going to probe the county that was caught shredding ballots?

I don't blieve that's true. That was one City, and the "ballot" was an incomplete registration. The father of the registrant (a student) was supposed to bring in his son's Driver's license number before the election and didn't. He showed up at the polls with the number and found that the deputy city clerk had shredded the ballot because the kid's registration was incomplete. I don't know why she did that. I think that the rincomplete registration and the ballot that went with it should have been held until 4 PM the day after the election. That's the way I read the rules, and I was an election clerk in this district for more than 10 years. FWIW, I don't particularly like that deputy clerk. She's overly officious and misinterprets the rules. I've crossed swords with her before.

55 posted on 04/08/2011 2:02:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: American Quilter

As I read the piece, the “missing” votes were not included in the UNOFFICIAL tally. But the mistake was found and corrected in the OFFICIAL results, later on. Dems will land on ANYTHING which can provide an excuse for dragging things out, in the hopes of landing in a leftists’ court room. My guess is they are MOST upset by the fact the additional vote information came so late, it did not give them a chance to invent the thousands of votes necessary to stay close. Democrats can pull a few hundred votes out of “forgotten ballot boxes” or car trunks. But 7000 votes...at this VERY late time!!?? Magically finding that many would look too fishy even for Democrats!


56 posted on 04/08/2011 2:08:30 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Evil Slayer

“Doug La Follette, Secretary of State of Wisconsin is a [DEMOCRAT]. This is the guy that will certify the results of the election. Any WI FReepers know anything about this guy?”

You answered your own question. He’s a democrat! Expect problems and tricks with the certification.


57 posted on 04/08/2011 2:12:13 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Evil Slayer
Doug La Follette, Secretary of State of Wisconsin is a [DEMOCRAT]. This is the guy that will certify the results of the election. Any WI FReepers know anything about this guy?

Doug LaFollette an old lefty who has been in this non-office forever.. He masquerades as a descendent of Bob LaFollette, the famous "Progressive" Wisconsin Senator of the last century, although he is NOT a descendent -- at best a distant cousin once (or twice) removed. But, most of Wisconsin thinks that he is the famous LaFollette's son, or grandson. He changed the spelling of his name legally to enhance that misconception.

I have a dear friend who has a cottage up in Door County near LaFollette's home. LaFollette is so arrogant that he cornered my friend and TOLD him to move his American flag and flagpole "back into the woods where nobody can see it." The flag still flies over the Lake and the pole still stands at my friend's back door.

LaFollette is the jerk who has held up publishing Walker's Budget Repair Bill for over a month. I think he should be recalled, but nobody's doing anything about it.

58 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:05 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Evil Slayer
Doug La Follette, Secretary of State of Wisconsin is a [DEMOCRAT]. This is the guy that will certify the results of the election. Any WI FReepers know anything about this guy?

Doug LaFollette an old lefty who has been in this non-office forever.. He masquerades as a descendent of Bob LaFollette, the famous "Progressive" Wisconsin Senator of the last century, although he is NOT a descendent -- at best a distant cousin once (or twice) removed. But, most of Wisconsin thinks that he is the famous LaFollette's son, or grandson. He changed the spelling of his name legally to enhance that misconception.

I have a dear friend who has a cottage up in Door County near LaFollette's home. LaFollette is so arrogant that he cornered my friend and TOLD him to move his American flag and flagpole "back into the woods where nobody can see it." The flag still flies over the Lake and the pole still stands at my friend's back door.

LaFollette is the jerk who has held up publishing Walker's Budget Repair Bill for over a month. I think he should be recalled, but nobody's doing anything about it.

59 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:22 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rface
"It's not that we necessarily expect to find anything criminal.

Of course not. It is expected behavior for Democrats to try and steal an election.

60 posted on 04/08/2011 2:40:03 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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