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Attendee at Trump Meeting: “It Couldn’t Have Gone Any Better” (re: Obama & natural born Citizen's)
www.thepostemail.com ^ | 4/8/2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/08/2011 1:17:39 PM PDT by rxsid

"Attendee at Trump Meeting: “It Couldn’t Have Gone Any Better”

A citizen reporter for The Post & Email.. said that the source reported that “It couldn’t have gone any better.”

Reporter: Trump gave them > 30 minutes. WorldNetDaily had been patched in somehow and apparently had been privy to what was going on. Also, there were a lot of media outside ..

Reporter: Rep. Carl Seel, Jeff, & Kelly, who represented a tea party group. ..Trump didn’t seem to know about the “natural born Citizen” issue at all. He gave Jeff homework by saying, “I want to know everything about ‘natural born Citizen,’ and I want to know about these reports from Kenya when members of the Kenyan Parliament had talked about Obama having been born there.”

Reporter: .. He has made a pledge that he will to to Arizona in the summer. He fully supports the Arizona eligibility bill..I was told that the primary topics of the meeting were the Arizona eligibility bill and Obama’s eligibility.

There was no follow-up meeting scheduled. When they came out of the meeting, Rep. Carl Seel spoke to the press. However, Jeff was assured that some “good stuff” was shared with the press. As they were leaving, Theresa Cao said something to Jeff, who was trying to figure out who she was. He asked her, “Are you Theresa Cao?” and she said, “Yes, I am.”

The Post & Email: Did you say that Arizona Governor Jan Brewer was invited but was unable to go?

Reporter: .. We were informed and believe that Gov. Brewer was unable to attend.

Trump was engaged, asked questions and asked people to get information for him. He clearly showed that he wants to know more..."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; birthertrump; donaldtrump; lawofnations; naturalborncitizen; obama; thedonald; trump; trump2012
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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

1 posted on 04/08/2011 1:17:44 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: LucyT; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; ...
Ping to the "non story" (Barry's eligibility issue) that's gettin legs...

"Attendee at Trump Meeting: “It Couldn’t Have Gone Any Better” (re: Obama & natural born Citizen's) "

Sounds like Trump is heading in the right direction (i.e. wanting to know more about "natural born Citizen.")

2 posted on 04/08/2011 1:20:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

I don’t care what Donald’s up to - I would rather be fighting Hillary in ‘12 since the ‘Pubs are probably going to force a McCain Jr like Romney on us.


3 posted on 04/08/2011 1:23:13 PM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha (Paul/Ventura 2012 - Cuz Maybe Batsh#t Crazy IS the Answer)
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To: rxsid

Obama is toast.


4 posted on 04/08/2011 1:24:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GunningForTheBuddha
"I don’t care what Donald’s up to "

I care...because Article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution must be upheld.

5 posted on 04/08/2011 1:26:08 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

6 posted on 04/08/2011 1:26:50 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: rxsid
It sounds like Trump is a better communicator, or leader of public opinion, than people gave him credit for. It's not very likely that he wasn't previously aware of the natural born citizen issue. He's starting where the (MSM indoctrinated) public is now, and methodically chipping away at the issue. The difference between being: a citizen; born in the U.S.A.; and natural born citizen is slowly being revealed to the unwashed masses.
7 posted on 04/08/2011 1:27:22 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: rxsid

thanks for the “ping”


8 posted on 04/08/2011 1:29:29 PM PDT by patlin (Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican: "I didn't leave the Democrat Party, they left me")
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To: rxsid

Another point that people need to be aware of is that if was not born in Hawaii, then he is not any kind of U.S. citizen, natural born or otherwise. At the time of his birth if one parent was not citizen (BO sr.) then the American parent (Stanley Anne Dunham) had to have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after reaching 16 years of age. His mother was only 18 and therefore not eligible to transfer citizenship to baby Barry.


9 posted on 04/08/2011 1:29:34 PM PDT by all the best
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To: rxsid

“and I want to know about these reports from Kenya when members of the Kenyan Parliament had talked about Obama having been born there.”

Maybe he had a lot less than he hinted at.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 1:31:09 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: rxsid

11 posted on 04/08/2011 1:31:29 PM PDT by McGruff (Get use to using the term "Proofers" not "Truthers")
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To: rxsid
Trump didn’t seem to know about the “natural born Citizen” issue at all. He gave Jeff homework by saying, “I want to know everything about ‘natural born Citizen,’

Good. They should set up a research team who should put together a compendium from A to Z to brief Trump. A book that has everything that has been researched over the last 3 years. From news article that Obama was born in Kenya, to his Conn SSN number and others, to that scare on his head.

12 posted on 04/08/2011 1:32:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

Donald Trump = WINNING!

Obama = YOU’RE FIRED!


13 posted on 04/08/2011 1:36:21 PM PDT by blondee123 (ZERO PARTIES ON, USELESS NARCISSIST!)
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To: All

Copy from another post of mine...

Hence, the Chester Arthur example is not and cannot be treated as any precedent since the nation was not aware of the truth about his father’s and mother’s non-U.S. citizenship status at the time of his birth.

Interesting, since it appears that the question of applicability of precedent would become the focus when the Natural-born issue is finally acknowledged for a week in the media, and I believe at some point it will be. From a practical standpoint, if this issue makes reelection probabilities dire enough, centrist Dems would attempt to primary nobama out, which would perhaps be the smartest thing for them to do, as the D party could move to the center and the R would have to move more solidly to the right. Except who would the D’s select (besides the thoroughly worn-out clintonistas) ? Well, whatever, my real points for comment follow.

Well, I found a reference to a SCOTUS case from 1874 that referred to “natural-born”. The link to Justia.com follows the relevant snippet from this women’s suffrage case, “MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U. S. 162 (1874)”,

“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”

http://supreme.justia.com/us/88/162/case.html

The text I cite above appears to be quite telling in the logic of the actors of today.

If this ruling were the latest precedential ruling, it would make sense then, that the man elected in 2008 and his true backers, whoever they may be, are exerting such tremendous effort to establish the newly-minted State of Hawaii as his birthplace. That birthplace enables him to claim “natural-born” based on being in the second classification of children in the cited reference, those born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. Absent that birthplace fact, he would fail the meaning of “natural-born” cited within this opinion on both counts, as the father he claims is acknowledged to not be a U.S. citizen.

Please comment; I very much look forward to more case research and opinions regarding the precedents of this case. Please keep them research-oriented; are there any legal scholars or “lay” people out there who can do some digging ?

If this holds water, then perhaps this is the case that needs to be presented, “Occam” style.

I am not sure of Mr. Trump’s true aims, so I try to write in an unbiased tone regarding his efforts which, so far, appear to have certain commonality with most Americans, however I caution that his overall vision may be less than ideal, as indicated by some simplistic protectionist bandages that he has advocated. In his defense, I would like to remind that the amount of his assets affected by slumping Real Estate may be motivating his desire to see the nation restored.

After some more poking around...

It appears that there has been no ruling overturning or affecting Minor v. Happersett as an opinion, though the 19th Amendment granted suffrage to women, which was the subject of the case. So the precedent apparently would be that of this case ?

Also, if this indeed is the rub, then it would appear that the man who wound up winning the election of 2008 had simply gained too much traction before it was discovered within the Democratic party that he was ineligible. That would explain the extraordinary facts surrounding how the Democratic party certified him in the various States and the last-minute secret wrangling of Democratic party leadership, i.e., Pelosi & co. in final certification. I had come across these claims on the internet but I always took them with a grain of salt and simply “filed them away”. I guess until now. Now this makes sense. It was a while until it was pointed out to leadership that there was an issue. Then it took a while to research and figure out what approach was to be taken.

Regarding Chester Arthur, I think nobama’s father’s non-citizenship was known fairly early on. Perhaps the Chester Arthur handling would or could be applied. I also submit that since nobama was sworn in, and is holding the office, any actions while in office are those of a sitting President. However, the whole idea of people knowing he was ineligible would and should result in many criminal prosecutions, including that of nobama if he knew before he was elected. No doubt if he stepped down he would pardon himself beforehand - is that possible ? I don’t know, but Pelosi and any others who knew - they seem like the really need pardons or they will be wide open to prosecution.

Mostly, if this came out, it would reflect terribly on the Democratic party for not vetting. Finding out after it’s too late and trying to avoid some “Constitutional crisis” is one thing, but knowing before the election and not going public - which would have, of course, ensured a clintonista win - that would look very bad.

IMHO.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 1:37:00 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: rxsid
Sounds like Trump is heading in the right direction (i.e. wanting to know more about "natural born Citizen.")

The stupid media has taken on the wrong guy. He plays to win.

15 posted on 04/08/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid
I care...because Article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution must be upheld.

I meant that I don't care what his motives are, I'm just glad he's doing the job everyone else seems to cowed to do. A few here have suggested he's a McPublican and a Hillary man - I say "so what" as long as he destroys Obama and gives us an opportunity to roll back some horrendous Supreme Court appointments.
16 posted on 04/08/2011 1:37:31 PM PDT by GunningForTheBuddha (Paul/Ventura 2012 - Cuz Maybe Batsh#t Crazy IS the Answer)
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To: rxsid
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17 posted on 04/08/2011 1:43:02 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: all the best
"Another point that people need to be aware of is that if was not born in Hawaii, then he is not any kind of U.S. citizen, natural born or otherwise. At the time of his birth if one parent was not citizen (BO sr.) then the American parent (Stanley Anne Dunham) had to have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after reaching 16 years of age. His mother was only 18 and therefore not eligible to transfer citizenship to baby Barry."

Assuming overseas birth, he would not have received U.S. citizenship based, only, on his mother's citizenship status. Per U.S. law at the time of his birth (December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986). Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: "For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child." http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html
**************PAGE AT LINK ABOVE NOW REMOVED - USE BELOW LINK***********************
http://germany.usembassy.gov/acs/claimtocitizenship/

Also found here:
"1952 Immigration and Nationality Act Title3 Chapter1"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8693236/1952-Immigration-and-Nationality-Act-Title3-Chapter1

Of course, that, and his being born subject to the 1948 B.N.A. is dependant upon Sr. being his legal father at birth. Sr. was likely still married to Kezia Aoko, and therefore any marriage (of which there is no known marriage cert) to SADO (Barry's alleged mother) would have been illegal in HI.

IF that were the case, depending on just where the guy really was born and just who his parent(s) really were...he might be a "natural born Citizen."

However, Barry would then need to explain (at least): 1) why he took multiple oaths of office throughout his career, under the name "Obama" if that wasn't his legal father at birth and 2) why is there a clearly fraudulent government document (alleged HI short form) proudly displayed on his campaign web site.

Yeah, this clear Constitutional crisis probably couldn't get much more tangled.

It's way past time the country get the real answer's to these questions about the man with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

18 posted on 04/08/2011 1:43:39 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: all the best
if was not born in Hawaii, then he is not any kind of U.S. citizen

If SAD was not married BHO would be a citizen if the birth occurred outside the US. He would most likely have a CRBA in that case.

If SAD & BHO Sr. were married he would not be a citizen if he were born outside the US. In 1961, the requirements were that a married US citizen parent had to have been in the US for 10 years, 5 of those after the age of 14.

There have been several amendments to that statute since then.

19 posted on 04/08/2011 1:43:41 PM PDT by longjack
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To: PieterCasparzen
Mostly, if this came out, it would reflect terribly on the Democratic party for not vetting. Finding out after it’s too late and trying to avoid some “Constitutional crisis” is one thing, but knowing before the election and not going public - which would have, of course, ensured a clintonista win - that would look very bad.


I don't buy the premise Hillary automatically wins stuff.

Hillary gets slimed if Obama goes down along with the Democrat party in the biggest scandal ever.

The questions will be flying high and hard from everywhere.

For instance...

Hillary what did you know and when did you know it?
Hillary, did you make a deal with Obama when he offered the Secretary of State and you knew he was usurping the presidency?
Hillary, as Secretary of State, you had access to Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records -- so where was her passport records from 1960 - 1965 that came up missing?
Hillary, why did the Democrat Party and Nancy Pelosi certify Obama as being constitutionally eligible to be president when you knew he was not?
Hillary, was Obama's passport record destroyed when they were illegally accessed, and were there back up copies of Obama's passport records that could be checked against after they were "cauterized"?

Hillary, your PUMAs were the first "Birthers" ...did you know at that time Obama would be an illegal president?
Hillary, your husband, president Clinton questioned Obama's eligibility during the 2008 presidential campaign, and now he says questioning Obama's Constitutional eligibility is "Ludicrous" which was within 24 hours after Obama announced his election campaign for 2012?
So what happened here Hillary?
It looks like you Hillary made a deal to keep your mouth shut and aided and abetted an illegal presidency. Et cetera. You should get the picture...

20 posted on 04/08/2011 1:45:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: all the best

You are correct. That point is why so many of us have argued for a House request that HI release all O birth documents in its possession. Anything produced by HI that reveals a non-U.S birth is game-over.

Almost certainly, a Senate trial based solely on a non-citizen father would end up in the USSC. Dicta in USSC decisions, contemporaneous writings and understood meanings at the time and history in general, suggests a lack of NBC. It seems unlikely the court could find NBC with one born to a non-citizen father.


21 posted on 04/08/2011 1:47:27 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: GunningForTheBuddha
"I care...because Article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution must be upheld.

I meant that I don't care what his motives are, I'm just glad he's doing the job everyone else seems to cowed to do. A few here have suggested he's a McPublican and a Hillary man - I say "so what" as long as he destroys Obama and gives us an opportunity to roll back some horrendous Supreme Court appointments.

-------------------------------------------

I clearly misread your comment then. My apologies.

22 posted on 04/08/2011 1:48:25 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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I looks like they were trying to cover a lot of bases with those phony newpaper birth announcements. Such as “Mr. and Mrs. Obama”.


23 posted on 04/08/2011 1:49:15 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: GunningForTheBuddha
I say "so what" as long as he destroys Obama and gives us an opportunity to roll back some horrendous Supreme Court appointments.

WOW! I hadn't even thought that was possible! Incredible.

Regards,

TS

24 posted on 04/08/2011 1:53:26 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: rxsid; masadaman
Just sent the following email to Mario Apuzzo Esq. Hopefully he will educate Trump.

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According to a thread on Freerepublic.com Donald Trump has finally reached the point where he is interested in the meaning of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

If you have the ability to contact Trump, I urge you to help. He's got the voice and access to the media. He just needs guidance now.

Thank you,

xxxxxxxxx
Grand Rapids MI

Here's the Freerepublic thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2701861/posts

25 posted on 04/08/2011 1:54:28 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Terry Mross
"I looks like they were trying to cover a lot of bases with those phony newpaper birth announcements. Such as “Mr. and Mrs. Obama”."

*Who, exactly, is "Mr. Obama?"
*Who, exactly, is "Mrs. Obama?" Kezia Aoko??
*Who, exactly, is the baby boy?

*Why is Mr. Obama's address listed as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway when there are no records Sr. Obama ever resided there?

Those newspapers ad's are exactly proof of nothing...IF they are even legitimate.

In fact, they raise MORE questions than any attempt at some sort of ridiculous "proof."

26 posted on 04/08/2011 1:59:54 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Those announcements are proof of one thing. Fraud!


27 posted on 04/08/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: rxsid

Good.


28 posted on 04/08/2011 2:07:27 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Red Steel

http://www.nbcfund.com/wordpress/?p=57


29 posted on 04/08/2011 2:16:08 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

*snip*

“Reporter: Rep. Carl Seel, Jeff, & Kelly, who represented a tea party group. ..

Trump didn’t seem to know about the “natural born Citizen” issue at all. He gave Jeff homework by saying, “I want to know everything about ‘natural born Citizen,’ and I want to know about these reports from Kenya when members of the Kenyan Parliament had talked about Obama having been born there.”

Reporter: .. He has made a pledge that he will to to Arizona in the summer. He fully supports the Arizona eligibility bill..I was told that the primary topics of the meeting were the Arizona eligibility bill and Obama’s eligibility.

There was no follow-up meeting scheduled. When they came out of the meeting, Rep. Carl Seel spoke to the press. However, Jeff was assured that some “good stuff” was shared with the press.

As they were leaving, Theresa Cao said something to Jeff, who was trying to figure out who she was. He asked her, “Are you Theresa Cao?” and she said, “Yes, I am.”

The Post & Email: Did you say that Arizona Governor Jan Brewer was invited but was unable to go?

Reporter: .. We were informed and believe that Gov. Brewer was unable to attend.

Trump was engaged, asked questions and asked people to get information for him. He clearly showed that he wants to know more...”

~~~~~~~~

OKAY ... GAME MAY BE ON !! How long have we been praying for just ONE credible person to really understand the Constitutional issue and be determined to find the truth .. praise the Lord (if he’s seriously
engaged).


30 posted on 04/08/2011 2:23:13 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: bushpilot1

Interesting and ironic. A perennial OBot troll a couple days ago was wondering why the FEC didn’t do anything about the election.


31 posted on 04/08/2011 2:28:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

Ping for later.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 2:29:02 PM PDT by RockinRight ([insert tagline here])
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To: All
Update...

Update, April 8, 2011, 5:14 p.m. EDT: The following email communication was received from Jeff, one of the attendees at the Trump meeting earlier today:

Dear Friends and Fellow Fighters for the Preservation of Our Constitution,

As several of you may know already, State Representative Carl Seel, Kelly Townsend, and myself met in Donald Trump’s office in NY today with Mr. Trump and his chief executive Michael Cohen.

We had three goals going into the meeting and I believe that we met all three to the best extent possible in a 30 minute meeting (actually 20 because Mr. Trump took a call from Newsmax during the meeting). The goals were 1) to obtain Trump’s stated support for the current Arizona Eligibility Bills, which will come to decisive votes this coming week or the one after. 2) To find out as much as possible what the Trump Organization already knew and what they still may not know about the entire eligibility issue, and 3) to get a committment from him to come to Arizona to speak with the Governor, other public officials and the public.

RESULTS:

Goal # 1 ….. Met in total, permission received to state his support for the bill publicly!!
Goal # 2 ….. Met within the time constraints. The discussion trend allowed me to ask Mr. Trump right after he was speaking about the Kenyan grandmother, whether he knew about the Kenyan Assemblyman, (James Orengo) who stated on their Assembly floor so that it is documented that Obama was a son of their soil. He apparently did not know of that and asked me to send him the documentation. Anyone who has it readily available is welcome to send it to me so that I can forward it. Even more importantly, I also had the opportunity when we were discussing whether a real long form birth certificate actually exists to do two things. I mentioned Tim Adams, the Hawaiian election clerk and recent affadavit and ALSO asked whether he, Trump, was going to take the issue beyond the birth certificate and place of birth to the question of NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP. He asked me to explain precisely what that was and I then got to recite the precise clause from Article II, Section I and explain what the founders meant by it; and where they got the concept from, that being Vattel. He said that he liked the way I was explaining it and gave me another “homework” assignment to send him more information about it. Also, at some point in the discussion, the false social security number belonging to someone from Connecticut born in 1890 came up and so they are aware of that situation to some extent – maybe not all the way to the FOIA actions and suits filed vs. the Social Security Administration by Orly Taitz. Time did not allow getting into the issue to that full extent. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP ME WITH THESE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS, PLEASE DO, I WELCOME IT.
Goal # 3 …. Met, very largely in total. Donald Trump has agreed to come to Phoenix probably in June and asked that Carl, Kelly, and myself be his “point men” when he does come.

Other items to possibly discuss that were on my personal “checklist” included the Pelosi Dual Nomination Forms constituting Election Fraud; the Secretary’s of States allowing anyone and everyone on ballots i.e. Roger Calero; McCain’s role in Senate Resolution 511; Terry Lakin and Theresa Cao (more on her below) the Congressional Research Service Report; the Newspaper Birth Announcements; the Selective Service Registration; Pastor Manning; and the Barnett vs. Obama case now going to be heard in 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. I’M SORRY BUT TIME AND DISCUSSION TRENDS DID NOT PERMIT THESE TO BE DISCUSSED.

There were at least ten to fifteen television cameras there and Carl Seel did about a ten minute interview with them and the press. At the end of that line was a lady who appeared to be a press member but turned out to be Theresa Cao. For those of you who don’t know who Theresa is and her story, I don’t have time here to get into it but she is an American hero and came all the way from DC by train this morning to see what was happening with this meeting. I had the pleasure of not only meeting her but taking her to lunch with us!

Anyone who has any additional questions, can feel free to contact me. Thanks.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/08/attendee-at-trump-meeting-it-couldnt-have-gone-any-better/

33 posted on 04/08/2011 2:32:23 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: STARWISE

34 posted on 04/08/2011 2:33:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: rxsid

If Trump decides to run for the presidency, then he’ll certainly have standing if he chooses to file a lawsuit to see Obama’s documentation. That works for me.


35 posted on 04/08/2011 2:39:51 PM PDT by Marty
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To: rxsid

If Trump decides to run for the presidency, then he’ll certainly have standing if he chooses to file a lawsuit to see Obama’s documentation. That works for me.


36 posted on 04/08/2011 2:40:00 PM PDT by Marty
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To: PieterCasparzen

I strongly disagree with you one one MAJOR point.

When an act of Congress is found to be Unconstitutional, the effect is that it is recognized as never having had any validity at any time. It is as though it never was a law. So any actions undertaken on the pretext of any such alleged “Act of Congress” (a law or otherwise) are null and void retroactively.

There is no reason that the same precedent and logic would not apply to the allegedly official “acts” of a person who was Constitutionally never President. If making him President is not Constitutional, then legally speaking, it never happened, and he is not now and never has been President. Therefore, none of the laws passed by Congress since late January 2009, nor any alleged “Executive Orders” have actually been signed by “the President,” since there hasn’t been one since then.


37 posted on 04/08/2011 2:41:45 PM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: rxsid; 70th Division; freekitty; flat; unkus; JLAGRAYFOX; Nachum; vette6387; austingirl; ...

I don’t believe Trump would have opened this “can of traitors” unless he already has the proof.

The giggling and patronizing MSM know the proof is out there as do the gaggle in the US Congress. They want to try to discredit Trump before the truth is exposed to the entire world. IMO, none of this is going back in the box.


38 posted on 04/08/2011 2:44:55 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
He's had a few decades of being a business leader. Part of being a leader in business is **educating** the ill-informed. He's had LOTS of practice at this.

As you pointed out, Trump is chipping away at this. He is educating the public a little bit a time, by giving them milk before meat, and by chip, chip, chipping, he is also keeping this headline news. He's nailing two birds with one stone.

The man is smart! ( Just like he says he is!)

39 posted on 04/08/2011 2:47:09 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: rxsid

Send them your Vattel research thread..


40 posted on 04/08/2011 2:50:14 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid

Thanks


41 posted on 04/08/2011 2:51:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The damage from Big Press is already dwarfing the actual damages to the nuclear reactors in Japan)
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To: rxsid
Looks like a good game plan... did I mention Obama is toast.

This one can be played right away against the DemBots and their media. Trump could rock them right away with this one:

Mr. Trump right after he was speaking about the Kenyan grandmother, whether he knew about the Kenyan Assemblyman, (James Orengo) who stated on their Assembly floor so that it is documented that Obama was a son of their soil. He apparently did not know of that and asked me to send him the documentation. Anyone who has it readily available is welcome to send it to me so that I can forward it.

James Orengo statement cropped

I've got the the whole PDF file of the Kenyan Parliamentary minutes. I'll send but I'm sure someone will beat me to it. ;-)

42 posted on 04/08/2011 2:54:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid

Seesh, the afterburners are about to kick in! WOW.


43 posted on 04/08/2011 2:59:06 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The damage from Big Press is already dwarfing the actual damages to the nuclear reactors in Japan)
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To: rxsid
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44 posted on 04/08/2011 2:59:28 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid; LucyT; Polarik; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; opentalk; RobinMasters; melancholy; danamco; ...
Sounds like Trump is heading in the right direction.

Agreed, but a few others seemed to have been in the past but then backed off.

Look for the updated Post & Email story on this in the near future. Remember that Sharon Rondeau sent an open later to Trump last week asking for a conversation between them. Apparently that's yet to happen, although it could.

45 posted on 04/08/2011 3:00:42 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: rxsid

And BTW, someone should also send them the Kenyan Parliamentary minutes from November 5 or 6, 2008 when a number of Kenyan parliamentarians were celebrating Obama’s victory. A number of “son of soil” and Obama from Kenya comments in that one.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 3:02:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Fred Nerks
.... to the ear of God !!!
47 posted on 04/08/2011 3:05:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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48 posted on 04/08/2011 3:06:00 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Red Steel
Indeed.

And, the more times folks send the information to them...the greater the chance they will find it.

49 posted on 04/08/2011 3:06:23 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: justiceseeker93

You should see post 33.


50 posted on 04/08/2011 3:07:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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