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Congress Strikes a Budget Deal, Averts Shutdown
Fox News ^ | Apr 9, 2011

Posted on 04/08/2011 8:26:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz

DEVELOPING: Congressional leaders, with barely an hour to go before a federal government, announced late Friday night they had reached a deal to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year.

House Speaker John Boehner, speaking briefly to reporters after talks had concluded, said the plan was to pass one last short-term spending resolution Friday night to buy lawmakers the time needed to prepare and pass the final budget bill.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; budgetbattles; budgetdeal; caveman; plannedparenthood; shutdown
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To: screaminsunshine

No, I’m just here to inject some intelligence and rational thought into this thread.


151 posted on 04/08/2011 9:14:13 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: popdonnelly

In their joint statement Boehner and Reid said 78.5 billion in cuts.

If true, that’s worth about two whoopees then I guess.


152 posted on 04/08/2011 9:15:04 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: popdonnelly
I’m not sure I want to go to battle if the Republicans have my back.

To paraphrase Gen. Patton: I'd rather have a Rat division in front of me than a GOP one behind.

153 posted on 04/08/2011 9:15:34 PM PDT by kevao (I)
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To: Lazamataz
I still hold firm in my conviction that there are battles to pick.

I do too. And I will maintain until my dying day that if we had ever chosen to die on the hill that innocent, beautiful children are being ripped to bloody shreds upon, God may have granted us a modicum of mercy.

But we haven't. And He won't.

This isn't a throwaway "social issue" or barter tool in some political horse-trading session. This is the ball game. The entire essence of our existence. Stand for life or you stand for nothing.

I like you, Laz. But you're missing the big picture on this one. We needed to stand our ground for these kids. We failed them once again. And we're running out of time to try to make this right.

154 posted on 04/08/2011 9:15:48 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: acapesket

The Tea Party won’t be wiping his tears. He can cry when he realizes We The People want him to resign and let a real man take over.


155 posted on 04/08/2011 9:16:03 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: socialism_stinX
Just wondering, but what do you expect Boehner and the GOP to do when the democrats still control the senate and the White House? There’s only so much we can do until we regain a majority in the senate and retake the White House. The House Republicans can pass any bill they want, but Reid and Obama can shoot down any GOP-backed bill, and endless stalemate and government shut-down in NOT a viable option.

Why is a shutdown not a viable option?

What are you afraid of?

156 posted on 04/08/2011 9:16:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: socialism_stinX
(I’m also starting to wonder what percentage of people posting on this thread are DNC operatives trying to create dissension inside the GOP.)

If there are, I would look for posters who have words like "socialism" in their screen names.

157 posted on 04/08/2011 9:17:14 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: socialism_stinX
I don’t understand why so many FReepers are blaming this budget deal on Boehner. It’s not his fault, and there’s only so much the House Republicans can do about it, until the GOP retakes the senate and the White House.

The OP(formerly the GOP) and the RATs are both to blame. They two factions of one big socialist Republicrat machine that has enabled Congress to expand their powers beyond the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution thereby creating a centralized, runaway, out of control government too costly to maintain.

The only way to reduce the federal deficit is by restoring the limited government principles our founding fathers instilled in the Constitution thereby forcing Congress back within the confines of Article 1 Section 8. any budget proposal absent of this requirement is nothing but smoke and mirrors by the OP and the RATs.
158 posted on 04/08/2011 9:17:23 PM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: suzynrogers

People in OH will keep him there just as the WV oddities stood by Robert C. Byrd for 51 years.


159 posted on 04/08/2011 9:17:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
He can cry when he realizes We The People want him to resign and let a real man take over.

Who? Who steps up to take over?

160 posted on 04/08/2011 9:18:08 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: socialism_stinX

You have missed the maxim of so many Freepers:
‘When in worry or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout’.


161 posted on 04/08/2011 9:18:41 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

The Planned Parenthood deal is far from over. There will be a separate vote on this “rider”, and the senate members will have to show where they stand — and then explain their votes. No hiding behind “overarching goals” of the bigger picture that they usually do.


162 posted on 04/08/2011 9:18:41 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

You make a damned good point.


163 posted on 04/08/2011 9:18:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: popdonnelly

10 billion was previously cut, I’m assuming that isn’t included in the 78.5 in their statement.


164 posted on 04/08/2011 9:19:12 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: TonyInOhio
Not to be a pedant, but:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7750005/Dunkirk-the-soldiers-left-behind.html

From the article:

But history has tended to overlook the fate of the British soldiers who never made it back across the Channel: 40,000 of them were marched off by the Nazis to captivity. To boost national morale, the British press wrote about the soldiers who escaped rather than those who were left behind, but the latter suffered a miserable fate.

My point, factual and otherwise, stands. There was a hell of a fight at Dunkirk, and Churchill also said "Wars are not won by evacuations". This war, which is as vital to our national survival in its own way as Dunkirk was in 1940, will not be won by ideological evacuation.

165 posted on 04/08/2011 9:19:26 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Lazamataz

They are laughing at us over at the swill hole known as the Democratic Underground.

Excuse me while I go bathe in a mixure of bleach/lye.


166 posted on 04/08/2011 9:19:32 PM PDT by Finatic (2012, Trump/West - our only hope.)
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To: benjibrowder

so more babies will die because boehner couldnt hold his ground. this is not ok with me


167 posted on 04/08/2011 9:19:32 PM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: mrsmith

I’m still suspicious. Remember, Reid’s the guy who said his wife and daughters couldn’t get healthcare.;)


168 posted on 04/08/2011 9:20:06 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: TonyInOhio

Col. Allen West or Michele Bachmann.


169 posted on 04/08/2011 9:20:17 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Finatic
They are laughing at us over at the swill hole known as the Democratic Underground

They were also laughing at us on the eve of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election.

We laughed last.

170 posted on 04/08/2011 9:20:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: TheBattman
What needs to be broadcast over and over is this: . . .

Instead, this is what is actually being broadcast:

Obama takes credit for "the biggest annual spending cut in history"

171 posted on 04/08/2011 9:21:50 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Lazamataz

SMH, Principles are NOT NEGOTIABLE.


172 posted on 04/08/2011 9:22:14 PM PDT by Oldyungun
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To: Caipirabob

“John Boohoo is done. He’s public enemy number 2 next to any democrat. Well, maybe he’s just “number 2”. Either way...done.”

If I were a Democrat, I would jump, jump, jump with joy at having folks like you as my opposition. And I would pray that more of my opposition would express the same sentiment.
Then I would plead, “go find more Christine O’Donnells and Sharon Angles to run against me and other Democrats.”


173 posted on 04/08/2011 9:22:59 PM PDT by olrtex
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To: FreeReign

“Why is a shutdown not a viable option?”

It’s not a viable option for the long run, because while the federal government is bloated, intrusive, and much too costly, it still does a lot of vital functions like running the military, running the FBI, CIA, FAA, DOT, federal courts, and the social security administration. We could disband the Dept. of Education and nobody would even notice, but we need most of the federal government to function over the long term to keep our country and our economy running and maintain national security. That’s why an endless stalemate and shut down is not a viable option for the GOP leadership.


174 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:15 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: popdonnelly

Bless you if you weren’t suspicious of politicians’ statements you’d never have lasted 6 years here!


175 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:21 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Lazamataz

“Ms. Bachmann is correct: This is not the hill to pick to battle over. It’s too small an amount; too little a deficit impact; too late in the game.”

Where did you hear her say that? She has either done a 180 or you are misquoting her. I just heard her say, at 12:14 AM that this WAS a hill worthy of fighting on, we should have fought and taken it to a shut down, and she is voting NO on it.


176 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:21 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: Finatic

They’ll keep laughing until they lose control of the Senate. Then they’ll be bitchin’ and whinin’.


177 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:53 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

LOL!


178 posted on 04/08/2011 9:23:59 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Lol...sound about right.


179 posted on 04/08/2011 9:24:03 PM PDT by socialism_stinX (Why did California go bankrupt?...because of unfunded mandates, medicaid, and illegal immigration.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Col. Allen West or Michele Bachmann.

Both excellent choices! Allen West is a freshman, and therefore is unlikely to be able to garner enough votes to win the Speaker's chair. Michelle Bachmann ran for the #3 post in the House and couldn't garner the votes to win. If Boehner were to resign as Speaker, do you think either of them could win the office? And, if not, who then?

180 posted on 04/08/2011 9:25:27 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: jennychase
When Obama told John Boehner, your eyes are so deep and John started crying and agreed for deal.

please...give it a break!!

181 posted on 04/08/2011 9:25:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: jennychase
When Obama told John Boehner, your eyes are so deep and John started crying and agreed for deal.

please...give it a break!!

182 posted on 04/08/2011 9:25:38 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Lazamataz

Now we have the WH and Congress patting themselves on the back for “solving” a problem they created. Is this a great country or what?


183 posted on 04/08/2011 9:25:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Lazamataz
They were also laughing at us on the eve of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election.

We laughed last.

You're right. Maybe they are celebrating too soon. Maybe there will be enough Republican Representatives with the courage to vote against this swill and give both Reid and crybaby a defeat.

184 posted on 04/08/2011 9:25:45 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Lazamataz
No matter what they say, the GOP is derelict in the duties tonight.

They have finally earned my eternal enmity.

I will never vote for a member of that party again.

Ever.

185 posted on 04/08/2011 9:26:09 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Conservative9

When I heard Bachmann this afternoon, she said we should be fighting over the big issues now, not nickel-and-dime stuff.


186 posted on 04/08/2011 9:26:15 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Conservative9

When I heard Bachmann this afternoon, she said we should be fighting over the big issues now, not nickel-and-dime stuff.


187 posted on 04/08/2011 9:26:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: socialism_stinX

“No, I’m just here to inject some intelligence and rational thought into this thread.”
Good on you. Look around at the body count.
Perhaps the upside is that the extermination and eugenics will work. Within another generation or two.


188 posted on 04/08/2011 9:26:58 PM PDT by JustAnotherOne
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To: kabar
Now we have the WH and Congress patting themselves on the back for “solving” a problem they created. Is this a great country or what?

LOL -- I hope Obama breaks his arm patting himself on the back.

189 posted on 04/08/2011 9:27:20 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: socialism_stinX
Why is a shutdown not a viable option?

It’s not a viable option for the long run, because while the federal government is bloated, intrusive, and much too costly, it still does a lot of vital functions like running the military, running the FBI, CIA, FAA, DOT, federal courts, and the social security administration.

All the reports I heard today said that none of the vital services that you mention would be shutdown.

We could disband the Dept. of Education and nobody would even notice, but we need most of the federal government to function over the long term to keep our country and our economy running and maintain national security. That’s why an endless stalemate and shut down is not a viable option for the GOP leadership.

If the people of this country are on our side, then the shutdown would not be endless. It would end when the Democrats cave.

190 posted on 04/08/2011 9:29:02 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Lazamataz

That’s why I like you. You’re always open to reason.

Thanks for hearing me out.


191 posted on 04/08/2011 9:31:26 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Lancey Howard; All

“....Did the Republicans win ANYTHING?”

YES....
Those open Senate votes are going to have HUGE implications for 2012, because so many Dems have to defend seats.

Manchin even CAMPAIGNED on repealing Obamacare, and others know their future may hinge on this ONE vote, after what happened in 2010.


192 posted on 04/08/2011 9:31:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Not to be a pedant, but:

I stand corrected, and ask for your pardon. I always assumed the BEF lost most of it's troops in action prior to entering the Dunkirk camp.

I also agree with your larger point, but add a caveat - sometimes, you need to marshall your forces. Dieppe proved that the Allies weren't ready to invade Fortress Europe in 1942; unrelenting pressure through many smaller engagements while building up forces for the main push led to the success of Operation Overlord. In the same way, pressure on the Lefties that builds to 2012 is the only way we achieve ultimate victory.

193 posted on 04/08/2011 9:32:23 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: Mariner

‘I will never vote for a member of that party again.’

Another Obama supporter heard from.


194 posted on 04/08/2011 9:35:43 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: John Boehner

The people of this country wanted deeper cuts. Why didn't you listen to them?

Link

195 posted on 04/08/2011 9:36:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
If the people of this country are on our side, then the shutdown would not be endless. It would end when the Democrats cave.

Tens of millions of Americans receive Federal benefits. They are not on our side, and they put Barry into office. That is the reality we have to change, but making the addict quit cold turkey is a sure way to lose.

196 posted on 04/08/2011 9:37:34 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.)
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To: TonyInOhio

Frankly, I love the historical undercurrent to this. :)

But let me ask you this: in what way would taking the Dems to the wall on this issue through a shutdown that Rasmussen said 57 percent of the people would approve to lower spending not be a way to ratchet up pressure?

And please do not misunderstand (and I trust you don’t): I’m going to be in the front line for the 2012 debate. I just honestly don’t feel we did all we could this time around. You are welcome to try to change my mind.


197 posted on 04/08/2011 9:40:31 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Lazamataz
So someone please tell me, what should the plan have been? Do you think we could have gotten more? Or do you concede that we couldn't have gotten anything else, but want to see the government shutdown nonetheless? If it shut down and in a month we still couldn't de-fund Obamacare, then what? Refuse to do anything else until after the 2012 elections?

I don't understand why so many people here are incapable of thinking strategically. I'll admit the Republicans need to market themselves better and go on the offensive a little more. However, the sad fact is that there isn't a single statewide or national race that can be won with the support of Freepers alone. We'll never see all of our dreams come to fruition, but that shouldn't mean we must therefore entrench ourselves at the expense of advancing at least a few feet in the right direction. If we can get the Democrats to meet us two-thirds of the way, as we did tonight, then we've made progress upon which we can later build. We've adjusted the baseline for future appropriations. Additionally, we've saved some of our ammunition for the bigger fights later. It will be much harder to reform entitlements. I'm certain we won't get everything we want then either. But are we better off pushing to get as much as we possibly can, or should we just give up because we only got two-thirds of what we wanted? If Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress and the presidency, then I'd understand the outrage! But the simple fact of the matter is that Republicans only control half of one branch of government! Considering that, we've gotten an excellent deal.

If you disagree, please explain a better strategy, both for the short-term and long-term.

198 posted on 04/08/2011 9:41:12 PM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: freebird5850

Barack has now came one step closer to be our king. Shame on us.


Our Founding Fathers would take us to the wood shed for allowing this great country to come to this.


199 posted on 04/08/2011 9:43:19 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Lazamataz
I just found out I am one of the Tea Parties hard core guy tonight. Why did we not go for the $100 Billion? We have the winning hand against these losers. Come on now! WTF!

I will continue to drink Single Malt Scotch until we control this country. Thank God.

200 posted on 04/08/2011 9:43:40 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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